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Refused temporary accommodation

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BabyMama2025 · 22/12/2024 19:10

so I am currently pregnant I did my homeless application in October and got offered a temporary accommodation on the 7th of November. However I refused it as the room was absolutely tiny literally just fits a bed. Of course I am grateful to be offered the help and roof over my head. But, how would I know how long I was in there not only that it was unsafe front door didn’t lock. Crazy man screaming and shouting in the shared kitchen. Writing on the walls saying theives work here. Google reviews of the place showing mould in the rooms. So yes not safe as I refused I explained to my council why and wasn’t offered anything else I have since been sofa surfing but I am due end of jan. my relief duty is now coming to a end and I’ve had no contact from the council. I have been trying to get private rent with the council but before I say I want it the lady says it’s now under offer 🙄 so she’s not very helpful in helping me find a place. I have been trying myself but I live in London so it’s incredibly hard. Anyway any advice on what may happen when my relief duty has finished ? I’m planning to email my housing officer and ask.but maybe they could dismiss my duty as I refused the temp accommodation. I am still with my partner too who works full time I have already started my mat leave

OP posts:
Miley1967 · 22/12/2024 20:16

BabyMama2025 · 22/12/2024 19:15

We are applying as a couple

where does your partner live currently? Are they sofa surfing too?

Rustyfeet · 22/12/2024 20:16

You need to move out of London. My sil is a single mum with 4 kids. She's been in temporary accommodation for about 7 years and no signs of moving up the bidding line

GreyCarpet · 22/12/2024 20:16

soupfiend · 22/12/2024 20:13

I think when the baby comes along your circumsances will be different and perhaps that means you can ask for a review?

This.

The accommodation they offered was suitable for two adults which you currently are.

When the baby is born, it would have become unsuitable, and you could have requested a review.

If you have the option of turning down temporary accommodation, you're not as much in need of it as someone who wouldn't have that option. Someone will have accepted that room you were offered because they had no choice.

I'd imagine fhis is their thinking.

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 22/12/2024 20:17

Op, I feel for you, I really do. But I think it was a mistake to refuse the place they offered. You currently have no fixed abode. A small, mouldy flat (which you can clean!) is infinitely better than sofa surfing, or living on the streets and having a baby taken from its mum.
You are not in a position to be choosy.
They will house you where they can, there isn’t some secret stash of beautiful terraced houses to be given away for free, you should accept wherever you’re given and then do your best to improve your living conditions. You could have taken the flat, you would then have had an address, your partner could have got a job and you could have saved for somewhere better.
As it is, you clearly can’t afford to live in the city. Leaving London is probably your best option

Noodlehen · 22/12/2024 20:19

I think you seem quite uninformed. I’m pretty sure you will not be getting a DHP for “12 months plus” it would have been a set amount of time, and you should have been told this by your council. Your partner works full time so I’m not sure how you’re even eligible tbh.

if your partner works full time and you can’t afford the rent in London and are getting nowhere with the local council ultimately you need to move out of London. You need a roof over your babies head, that’s the most important thing.

soupfiend · 22/12/2024 20:23

Also the only thing people think they need to say is 'mould' to refuse accommodation or get moved if they already have it. My partner works in housing and people use this all the time to engineer this.

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:27

Why do you want to be in London necessarily?

TinyMouseTheatre · 22/12/2024 20:27

Rustyfeet · 22/12/2024 20:16

You need to move out of London. My sil is a single mum with 4 kids. She's been in temporary accommodation for about 7 years and no signs of moving up the bidding line

How much we as a society let down Women and Children is truly staggering.

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:28

If you work you can buy immediately in the North and start a new job there. Mortgages are 100 to 400 pounds

TheYearOfSmallThings · 22/12/2024 20:28

The thing is many councils offer absolute shitholes with the aim of weeding out anyone who has better options, or lacks the persistence to push through the process. You need to accept the shithole, live there for a short while, and then (in your case when your baby is born) you will be moved to standard temporary accomodation, which will be much better but may not be exactly where you would wish, and the time you can stay there can be unpredictable. You may move through several such places before being offered something permanent, and at all times there will be encouragement to find a private rental instead.

If you grit your teeth and accept all this for as long as it takes, which may be years, you will eventually be offered long term social housing. But they don't make it easy, for obvious reasons.

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:30

I lived in Northwich near Manchester ages ago. Cheap, decent area
BIL lives in Yorkshire, cheap , still decent

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 20:31

PenisWine · 22/12/2024 19:32

If you can't afford to rent in London then you'll have to move out of London.

Thousands of families are waiting 10+ years for housing in London, some of whom are vulnerable/escaping domestic violence/are disabled.

You will not be prioritised over these families. Some people are living in temporary accommodation like hostels or bnbs for several years before being housed. That's the reality of the situation in London.

If you can't afford to live there you'll have to move to a cheaper area.

What a shit attitude.

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:33

ItOnlyTakesTwoMinutes · 22/12/2024 20:31

What a shit attitude.

Why? Because they both don't work like you and want everything given on a plate?

CillaDog · 22/12/2024 20:33

Until you have your baby, the refusal of the temporary accommodation will mean you're essentially discharged.

When you have your baby the local authority will have a duty to house you (this is different to council housing) but you will more than likely be placed in temporary accommodation whilst you wait for a longer term place.

Unfortunately most temporary accommodation isn't ideal. You have families sharing one room, parents and children. Communal bathrooms and kitchens. This is all that is available, and if you reject it again once baby is here you will be seen as not in need, but also potentially putting your child at risk by leaving them homeless.

Follow the above advice from PP and get in contact with Shelter.

MichaelandKirk · 22/12/2024 20:33

I agree with others. The OP needs to consider living outside of London.

Lannielou · 22/12/2024 20:33

You do have to accept what is offered to you. Myself and my kids first went to a holiday park, then a homeless hostel. Finally we got moved to a temporary 3 bedroom house. All in all it was 18 months. We have been in our forever home for 6 months now

BabyMama2025 · 22/12/2024 20:34

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:33

Why? Because they both don't work like you and want everything given on a plate?

We both work full time thank you xx

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devilspawn · 22/12/2024 20:34

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:28

If you work you can buy immediately in the North and start a new job there. Mortgages are 100 to 400 pounds

None of that is true.

MichaelandKirk · 22/12/2024 20:35

If you both work full time why are you homeless?

Teamlux · 22/12/2024 20:36

I would try private rents in the counties surrounding London so your partner can still commute in. I know someone that rented a caravan when they were desperate. Can your midwife contact t the council for you?

BabyMama2025 · 22/12/2024 20:36

MichaelandKirk · 22/12/2024 20:35

If you both work full time why are you homeless?

U do know u can work and be homeless right ? Not everyone who lives in social housing is just on uc their whole lives.

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Startingagainandagain · 22/12/2024 20:36

I think you need a reality check.

If you have nowhere to go better accept whatever they are giving you and then ask for something more suitable when your baby arrives.

Are you both working? do you have family/a particular reason for being in London?

Because you might need to consider moving to a cheaper part of the country where there might also be less competition for social housing or at least where it is easier to rent.

Bumcake · 22/12/2024 20:37

johnyhadasister · 22/12/2024 20:28

If you work you can buy immediately in the North and start a new job there. Mortgages are 100 to 400 pounds

What? 😆

soupfiend · 22/12/2024 20:40

Theres lots of cheap property up north and in the midlands where your mortgage would be around 400 quid a month but of course you need a deposit and it takes time, you cant just move and then buy something that easily, and with a new born

However, OP you havent said how this came about and where you're sofa surfing and therefore whether there are avenues for support with whoever you're staying with, your employer, colleagues, do you have the deposit, are you going to be entitled to HB at all, what rent can you afford at the moment?

ohtowinthelottery · 22/12/2024 20:40

MyPithyPoster · 22/12/2024 20:02

Are there any other cities in the UK that either of you have any ties to whatsoever perhaps somewhere lovely like Warwick or Shropshire somewhere? That would be nice to raise a little baby in? Somewhere where you’d get a School place in a good School that kind of thing.

@MyPithyPoster I assume you realise there is also a shortage of accommodation for homeless people in areas like this too? There might not be a 10 year wait but I very much doubt the OP would be housed any time soon, even if they could meet a local connection requirement.

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