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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

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Nanny0gg · 21/12/2024 11:25

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:21

Because vegan food is suitable for omnivores.

Just because it's suitable it doesn't mean they like it!

One of my DGC is vegetarian. There's lots of vegan food they won't touch

And I'd certainly want to like my meal at Christmas

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:27

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:23

Except for some, it isn't. I don't get why you are so gung ho about vegan food being acceptable to everyone when people are literally giving you examples of why that isn't always the case. Then you get all stroppy about negativity towards veganism. You are creating the negativity by refusing to acknowledge anyone else's needs.

It’s not gung ho or “stroppy” to point out that nobody needs meat. They might like it, but that’s very different.

If you dislike vegan food and don’t want a meatless meal, you simply don’t accept an invitation from a strict vegan. Job done.

crockofshite · 21/12/2024 11:27

Bigearringsbigsmile · 21/12/2024 07:53

I wouldn't be allowing vegans in to my home if they were so inflexible

Hahaha 🤣

rainbowunicorn · 21/12/2024 11:27

PokerFriedDips · 20/12/2024 23:12

Yanbu it is reasonable for a vegan kitchen to stay vegan and not have meat in the house, but you should help her find an alternative place to go for Christmas Day if she doesn't want to eat vegan on thr day. Are there other family members or friends she could go to?

You have every right to stick to your principles. She has every right to feel that falafel and vegan lasagne don't make what she would consider a festive meal.

Why is it OPs responsibility to find her grown adult sister somewhere to go for Christmas just because said adult wants to eat chicken? She can stay at home and cook her own chicken or she can find her own alternative if she is unable to eat one vegan meal.

Fairislesweater · 21/12/2024 11:28

If she’s only coming for lunch surely she could have your offering for lunch then make her own dinner when she goes home?

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:28

Nanny0gg · 21/12/2024 11:25

Just because it's suitable it doesn't mean they like it!

One of my DGC is vegetarian. There's lots of vegan food they won't touch

And I'd certainly want to like my meal at Christmas

Then turn down the invitation!!!

Pineapplewaves · 21/12/2024 11:28

I would let my sister bring chicken which she already cooked in her own home to eat with the food I was offering. It's Christmas Day for her too and she's only asking for chicken not a whole turkey with pigs in blankets and stuffing. You could ask her to make sure her plate and cutlery go straight into the dishwasher afterwards and don’t contaminate anything of yours.

PickledPurplePickle · 21/12/2024 11:28

Having spent a Christmas Day with some vegan friends who kindly invited us over. I would be declining the invite.

Whilst I can cope without meat, I would not each much, if anything, of the menu that you are having

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:29

Fairislesweater · 21/12/2024 11:28

If she’s only coming for lunch surely she could have your offering for lunch then make her own dinner when she goes home?

A very sensible suggestion.

Crayfishforyou · 21/12/2024 11:29

Yanbu.
And technically, you are probably having a more traditional christmas meal than a roast anyway.

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:29

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:25

And that makes it acceptable?

If I punched you in the face because I disagree with you, does that make it OK for everyone else to punch you too? Of course it doesn't! Grow up.

The 1970s are calling you @Balloonhearts

Nanny0gg · 21/12/2024 11:30

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:28

Then turn down the invitation!!!

Of course

But not at all accommodating.

I'm assuming from all of this that the OP's house doesn't contain one single animal product

(are visitors allowed to wear leather shoes?)

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:31

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:27

It’s not gung ho or “stroppy” to point out that nobody needs meat. They might like it, but that’s very different.

If you dislike vegan food and don’t want a meatless meal, you simply don’t accept an invitation from a strict vegan. Job done.

See that I agree with. Just don't go. Problem solved.

It's the attacking other people that's not on. Some do need meat in their diet. If, like a pp, you have sensory needs or an eating disorder which means you can't eat other sources of protein then you would become very ill without it. Yet on a SEN thread people would be tripping over themselves to insist that someone's sensory restrictions are a need, not a preference.

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:34

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:31

See that I agree with. Just don't go. Problem solved.

It's the attacking other people that's not on. Some do need meat in their diet. If, like a pp, you have sensory needs or an eating disorder which means you can't eat other sources of protein then you would become very ill without it. Yet on a SEN thread people would be tripping over themselves to insist that someone's sensory restrictions are a need, not a preference.

You do realise it's just one meal?

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:34

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:29

The 1970s are calling you @Balloonhearts

See. Insults as the default. When do the schools go back?

Nap1983 · 21/12/2024 11:34

My friend and her family are vegan, I am not, I would not even consider taking or especially cooking meat in her home! I confess to taking some milk for my coffee though..

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:36

Some do need meat in their diet.

At every single meal?

As@Fairislesweater suggested, the sister could very easily eat meat when she got home that evening. She could do herself a big fry-up for breakfast too. She won’t collapse from malnutrition because she ate vegetarian meze for lunch.

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:36

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:34

See. Insults as the default. When do the schools go back?

You talk about attacking people but you're quite happy for posters who disagree with you to be attacked. Or so it seems to me. I'm sorry but it's you who is the child and it's you who needs to grow up.

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:36

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:34

You do realise it's just one meal?

Yeah and I could manage or just politely decline the invite but if there is literally nothing there they can eat its a bit unfair to have a pop at them.

YellowAsteroid · 21/12/2024 11:37

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:24

@YellowAsteroid
Have a look at how much of the Amazonian rainforest is being destroyed for beef farming.

Yup. Both are attributable to western diets - omnivorous or vegan - relying on air miles to transport food.

That's my beef with the OP - she thinks that her food choices are more moral than her sister's. THey're not.

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:38

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 11:36

You talk about attacking people but you're quite happy for posters who disagree with you to be attacked. Or so it seems to me. I'm sorry but it's you who is the child and it's you who needs to grow up.

Where do I say I'm happy for anyone to be attacked? I literally stuck up for someone about 6 pages ago.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:38

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:36

Yeah and I could manage or just politely decline the invite but if there is literally nothing there they can eat its a bit unfair to have a pop at them.

But there’s absolutely zero suggestion that the OP’s sister cannot eat this food. She just wants chicken.

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:39

Of course
But not at all accommodating.

Well, that’s what’s on offer. If the sister doesn’t like the offer, she can vote with her feet.

Balloonhearts · 21/12/2024 11:40

BrightonFrock · 21/12/2024 11:38

But there’s absolutely zero suggestion that the OP’s sister cannot eat this food. She just wants chicken.

Sorry should have been clearer, I am talking about the pp who was getting attacked for saying she couldn't eat most vegan food. Not ops sister. Ops sister should just decline or eat before she comes.

Crazybaby123 · 21/12/2024 11:40

Can she precook the chicken and bring a box of it sliced she can heat if she is that intent on eating chicken? Just say you can't have meat cooking in your housr but welcome to bring precooked?

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