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To not let my sister bring her own meat on Christmas day!

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FelizNavidadAmiga · 20/12/2024 21:33

First off, we are a strictly vegan household for moral reasons. I invited my sister for Christmas lunch as she is recently divorced and has nowhere else to go. I usually put on a magnificent spread with roast vegetables, tagine, stuffed peppers, vine leaves, falafel, home made hummus etc. My sister has just sent me a message saying she's going to bring her own chicken to cook. AIBU to say no way! I don't want chicken cooking in my nice clean vegan oven! Plus the smell makes me feel ill 🤢 I don't want to upset her as she's very sensitive at the moment but surely she can do without chicken for 1 day.

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LlynTegid · 21/12/2024 08:18

Bringing meat that is already cooked would be reasonable I think.

SallyWD · 21/12/2024 08:19

I'd let her bring cooked chicken. I understand you don't want chicken cooked at your home but I think it's fine for her to eat some chicken she's already cooked.

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:21

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 08:07

Or OP needs to be a tad more welcoming.

Nope. Her home, her morals, her choice. And l see you’re now laughing at all my posts too. Are you 12 ?

HollyChristmas · 21/12/2024 08:22

We are vegetarian , but have a cat , so meat is in our house .
But would I like my oven or pots and pans used for meaty things - no .
Tell her no , but if she wants to bring a plate with the meat already on it , you can serve up her food on that .
Or just tell her you are a meat free home.

Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g · 21/12/2024 08:23

Also, for all the people saying it doesn't sound like enough, where are the carbs, where's the protein, why don't you make this instead - the OP hasn't given her entire menu, hasn't asked for it to be critiqued, will almost certainly be providing lovely bread, flatbreads, rice, couscous etc.

YellowAsteroid · 21/12/2024 08:23

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:00

What a horrible comment. If OP doesn’t want to eat meat she’s entitled to state her reasons - she’s not forcing her views on anyone, she’s just sticking to her principles.

Of course she’s imposing her views on there - her sister, for a start. And then MN. Saying that veganism is moral certainly suggests that she considers meat eating to be immoral.

Fair enough, she doesn’t want to eat meat, and doesn’t want it in her house or oven, I get that. But to say this is a moral stance is insufferably arrogant.

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 08:23

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IdylicDay · 21/12/2024 08:23

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:17

I don’t think it’s rude for veggies/vegans to cover their reasons for not eating meat as ‘moral’. Unless you prefer a detailed discussion about the various farming/rearing and slaughter methods ? The reality of the situation is that animals are bred, reared and slaughtered for meat and meat eaters consume their corpses. That’s fact. Some people prefer not to eat meat, not because they don’t like it, but because they see the process from farm to plate as unacceptable. What else would you like them to say ?

Is there any need to add a reason why though? Just say you're vegan, or vegetarian. And don't eat meat. Can't it just be left at that.

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 08:24

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I'm pretty much a veggie and don't really like preparing meat. I don't think I'm better than anyone else who does or doesn't eat meat though. I'm making veggie christmas food for me, meat for family plus a family member is also bringing meat.

I'm not sure what me not particularly liking christmas has to do with this?
Did your wee rant make you feel better?

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 08:25

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:21

Nope. Her home, her morals, her choice. And l see you’re now laughing at all my posts too. Are you 12 ?

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Morals? 🫣🫣🫣🫣

RedHelenB · 21/12/2024 08:25

Lollypop701 · 20/12/2024 21:35

Could she bring it cooked and reheat it?

I think that's a good compromise.

Iliketulips · 21/12/2024 08:25

She's accepted an invitation to a vegan household, so I'm not sure how she could expect to cook meat in your household.

Could you cope if she brought some pre-cooked cold meat, or would you rather not have it in your house?

I'd happily eat what you're offering by the way, sounds lovely.

jeaux90 · 21/12/2024 08:26

My best friend has been vegetarian for 30 years, I would never expect to eat meet in her house.

Maybe she just doesn't get the "rules" on this one so just tell her.

Ilovelurchers · 21/12/2024 08:28

Some of these posts are hilarious.

Everybody who is telling OP her food is boring and "big standard" - what the fuck should she be serving? Rare orchids found only in one secret location in the Amazon rainforest?

It's just food, isn't it? Maybe she is a good cook and it tastes really nice? How can you tell how "magnificent" or otherwise her spread is just by looking at it written down.....

(Having said that, I also don't know anyone in real life who refers to their own cooking as "a magnificent spread", so I do wonder whether OP is on the wind up.....)

Funniest of all, those posters who suggest that if you feel a bit bored by the idea of a meal someone is serving you, it's normal practice to take a dish or two along with you to jazz it up a little..... Seriously? You do this? "Sorry, nan, your foods a bit boring for me, I'll just get my tupperwares out...."

Amazing.

OP, if you are real, next time don't tell her the menu? But if you do, just point out it's fucking weird to take uncooked chicken, or indeed any sort of chicken, to a dinner party, unless you have been specifically asked to.

HairyToity · 21/12/2024 08:28

Sounds delicious! I'd prefer it to the Christmas dinner. If she'd said I'll bring a little bit of cheese to have on side, or some smoked salmon, or even a few slices of parma ham, I'd let it slide. However the whole having to cook chicken in my kitchen with my oven and utensils, I'd say no too.

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 08:29

@wombat1a
"On the other hand if you did baked potatoes for them and gave them cheese (I know its not vegal but its veggie) and baked beans"

So the OP's home made Middle Eastern food isn't very feast like but a baked potato's with beans is?

This thread is insane!!

Ilovelurchers · 21/12/2024 08:30

Wrappingpapere · 20/12/2024 22:20

You would rather stay at home on your own at Christmas just so you can eat chicken?!?!?!

This post has generally made me laugh out loud....

The image of someone, sitting there alone with their party hat on and a satisfied smile on their face, biting into a drumstick......

That poster must really love chicken!

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:32

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 08:25

Morals? 🫣🫣🫣🫣

I’ve already explained what l meant by ‘morals’. Not big on comprehension are you ?

Semiramide · 21/12/2024 08:32

Your menu sounds absolutely bloody fantastically delicious!!!

If she feels 'deprived' 😮 her bring let her bring some roasted chicken or whatever.

Simonjt · 21/12/2024 08:34

CurlewKate · 21/12/2024 08:29

@wombat1a
"On the other hand if you did baked potatoes for them and gave them cheese (I know its not vegal but its veggie) and baked beans"

So the OP's home made Middle Eastern food isn't very feast like but a baked potato's with beans is?

This thread is insane!!

Judging by the replies I think a fair few MNers would consider a jacket potato with beans a magnificent meal.

ueberlin2030 · 21/12/2024 08:35

Rosscameasdoody · 21/12/2024 08:32

I’ve already explained what l meant by ‘morals’. Not big on comprehension are you ?

Oh, I understand what you wrote.
It's just questionable to decide someone's morals merely on what they currently eat.

redboxer321 · 21/12/2024 08:36

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Supergirl1958 · 21/12/2024 08:37

Can I just say not being mean here. But if she brought her own cooked meat, I think that’s fair enough.

if she were cooking for you all on Xmas day, she would of course, provide vegan alternatives. At least she has offered to bring her own, just stipulate that it is cooked and there is no issue

echt · 21/12/2024 08:38

YellowAsteroid · 21/12/2024 08:23

Of course she’s imposing her views on there - her sister, for a start. And then MN. Saying that veganism is moral certainly suggests that she considers meat eating to be immoral.

Fair enough, she doesn’t want to eat meat, and doesn’t want it in her house or oven, I get that. But to say this is a moral stance is insufferably arrogant.

Do you think Hindus, Jews and Muslims are insufferably arrogant if requiring those in their homes to abide by their dietary rules?

Having some history and an imaginary friend doesn't make your views more or less moral.

whatcanthematterbe81 · 21/12/2024 08:39

Knittedfairies2 · 20/12/2024 21:35

Couldn't she bring the chicken already roasted?

That's what I would expect. And use her own plate. But honestly no meant Christmas Day isn't for me so I probably wouldn't go if I couldn't do that. Yes yes I know it's sad I can't go without meat for a day, I actually can... just not this day

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