Fines for school

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Hi, not to start a debate but we looking at taking the children out of school for a long haul holiday. My question is we would be taking them out for 12 days (24 sessions) just trying to figure out the fines we would be facing…..online isn’t helpful.

I know it’s £80 per parent per child is this also per week? So we would be taking them out for 2 solid weeks at school then an additional 2 days the following week - would this be £480 per child??
TIA

I don’t know the answer to this, but I thought perhaps you were proposing a tit for tat fine for schools doing no learning at the end of term and just showing films. I would like to charge a retaliatory £80.

That is a ridiculous amount of time missing school. Take them in the holidays. Your children's education is more important than a HOLIDAY. Ffs.

I think it's perfect full 5 days so £320 per child.

Depends how old the kids are. My relatives from the boys out for 3 weeks backpacking in India. They kept a journal and asked for school work to be completed then did a presentation to the school when they returned. No fine given. Both primary school age.

It’s £80 per parent, per child, every 5 days. So you’re looking at:

£320 + £320 + £128 = £768.00

Our fines double if you don’t pay within 21 days.

Being in school is important.

The regulations say 10 or more sessions is a fine.

And a second fine within 3 years is double.

The first bit suggests it will be £80 per child per parent.

However if its two fines, it will be £240 per child per parent.

Are you proposing teachers pay £80 for showing a film at the end of term? Is this seriously how some parents feel?

I presume you have never taken yours out of class even 5 mins early.

Not seriously, but it’s a bit galling to be fined for one day out of school then see the whole of the last week of term go by with a film a day.
I think it’s the patronising tone of the ‘missed education’ email, when you hear they’ve spent the day watching Elf.

You don’t get fined for one day, so your point is moot.

it’s a bit galling to be fined for one day out of school then see the whole of the last week of term go by with a film a day.

But you don't get a fine for just a day. You get a fine after five days.

If your dc are watching a film a day at school, then I would seriously consider moving schools because you have either chosen or been allocated a shot school

I've been teaching for thirty years and I've never come across children watching a film every day in the week before a holiday.

Ah you see, I can only go on what people tell me. Having not done it myself.

spent the day watching Elf.

Were they watching it on a loop?

So not just a film a day. The whole six and a half hours watching a film for a week.

You are failing your children by sending them to that school.

I'm a teacher and my class watched a film this afternoon so I could prep my classroom before the holidays. Jobs I did in the classroom during the film:
-take down all displays
-Hand out all work from displays
-re-back all displays
-spray clean all whiteboards
-sort all books, drawers, re-stock all stationary and list anythjng missing to be re-ordered in the hols. By me. Be ause my school cant afford sufficient stationary for the children.
-hand out 100+ christmas cards
-write up three first aid jncident forms from lunchtime
-verbally checked in with the 5 most vulnerable children in my class who will face awful, awful holidays.

Obviously I will still work in the holidays too planning and resourcing next half term, but I think it's fair enough to set up the classroom during the last afternoon rather than in the holidays. Please don't assume teachers aren't working when a film is put on.

It was elf, then another one, then half an hour of cartoons. I thought it was bad too.

Two other films this week.

Im not very happy to be honest.

it’s so unclear online! And everyone has different answers just need to know what sort of fine we will be expecting really 🤔

So much misinformation, it’s PER ABSENCE after ten sessions have been missed. So £160 per child per parent reduced to £80 if paid early.

It shouldn’t be unclear , where are you looking.?

I would never put kn more than one film at MOST. This is primary though, in secondary it may be different.
If it's primary then they must have serious staffing shortages and behaviour issues for staff to need to be pulled like that, e.g. unfunded SEN children in crisis needing 1:1 support

On the Gov websites it just states £80 per parent per child for 10 sessions. No idea on where we stand for 12 days

Well, it’s more than 10 sessions so it’ll be double.

Yes double but then the extra 2 days will not be charged or will that be another week?

This week my kids have had a party, a panto and a film. They've watched performances from reception to year three and the Nativity in the local church. They finished at 2 one day and 1 the next.

It's £80 per parent for 1 child after 10 sessions (5 full days). If you pay within 21 days, if you don't then it's £160 instead of £80.

You would be fined £160 per parent per child, so £640 in total.

You would not be fined for the other 2 days at that point, however they would be included in any further absence that took them to 5 days.

More than 2 fines in a 3 year period can result in further action being taken.

I got fined for a 2 week holiday so more than 10 sessions, it was £80 per parent per child so £160 per child. I don’t think it changed as it was a £80 for 6 days or 60 days, the fine was £80 regardless of length.

Was yours 10 full days on the dot or a few over?