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No elbows on the table rule is arbitrary and not relevant in 2024

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ShortWide · 20/12/2024 12:53

I was taught not to put my elbows on the table when eating, but I have decided that as long as I don’t encroach on my fellow diners’ space, this is not a problem. Not sure what everyone else thinks though! I could definitely be persuaded to change my mind on this if the majority of people would be horrified by this lack of manners.

YABU - you should never have elbows on the table

YANBU - elbows on the table is no big deal these days

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InWalksBarberalla · 21/12/2024 04:11

echt · 21/12/2024 03:55

Come to Australia. It's quite common here, though only among women, I've found.
It's weird, like some denial of what one is doing. It's not annoying and 🤮 in the way that putting the hand in front of the mouth while continuing to talk with the mouth full of food. Again, only women in my experience.

Ha, I'm in Australia! Must be in different circles - mine are often found to be talking with their mouth full so a hand over the mouth would be a pleasant addition 😂

mathanxiety · 21/12/2024 04:18

YANBU
Where else would you put them?

mathanxiety · 21/12/2024 04:20

ElaborateCushion · 20/12/2024 14:16

Elbows on the table while you're sitting and chatting? I don't have a problem with it.

Elbows on the table while you're putting food in your mouth? I don't like it and won't do it.

Does it make sense? Not really, not in this day and age.
Will I stop not liking it? Nope! I just wouldn't ever say anything!

Yes, come to think of it, that's my understanding of the rule, and it's what I observe and have taught my DCs.

user1492757084 · 21/12/2024 04:28

Only something my physiotherapist worries about.
To routinely sit up and support one's back without having elbows on the table is better for muscle strength and posture that supports the back. Helps with headaches.

Slovenly diners are not really noticed, particularly when they are good company.

Firealarm1414 · 21/12/2024 04:34

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Americans generally eat with the fork in their right hand, not left. They tend to just use the side of the fork to cut their food or if they do use a knife they switch it into their right hand then put it down when finished using. It is annoying

rayofsunshine86 · 21/12/2024 04:58

When eating I think it's slovenly and rude. Balancing wrists and lower forearms on the side of the table is fine, as that allows for gesticulation, but elbows are a definite no for me.

I have a friend whose posture is so awful when eating I refuse to sit next to her; she spreads out her elbows and hunches over her plate. Her overbearing physical presence at the table cuts you off from conversation if you're unfortunate enough to be cornered by her.

When you're not eating it's fine as long as your elbows are kept neat and back straight.

DH occasionally rests his forearms on the table whilst eating (I mean everything but his elbows) and I tell him off gently for pushing boundaries, as do my DDs: "You're pushing boundaries, Daddy!".

Simonjt · 21/12/2024 07:04

“Take your hat off when you eat people”

I wasn’t aware cannabalism had specific etiquette.

billysboy · 21/12/2024 07:13

Gentlemen should remove hats inside let alone at a table
I think good manners and table manners are a good thing

Givemethreerings · 21/12/2024 09:00

Hats at the table is the same as coats !

DownThePubWithStevieNicks · 21/12/2024 12:24

sleepwouldbenice · 21/12/2024 01:03

Maybe they also consider it bad manners to tell you...

Maybe, still get invites though so it can’t bother them that much!

I’ve seen posts referring to elbows on table with cutlery in hands. That’s not what I mean! I’m not shovelling food in, elbows up and head down, like a cartoon character.

Annabella92 · 21/12/2024 12:29

GasPanic · 20/12/2024 13:38

A lot of the etiquette rules are arbitrary.

But there is some point to me in setting some sort of common standard.

For example one person might be happy with having elbows on the table. Another eating with their mouth open.

Everyone conforms to generally acceptable standards to avoid upsetting other people and to agree some sort of acceptable basis for the group so that the shared experience can be enjoyed.

If everyone is allowed to do what they want and not care about anyone else the whole thing just becomes a free for all with people saying screw everyone else, it's what I want to do that's important. And that lowers the quality of the experience for everyone as the pleasant dining experience turns more into a pack of animals at feeding time with everyone doing stuff that may well piss everyone else off.

Of course some people may be up for that. And the boundaries that are set generally depend on the group and the setting.

Yes exactly this. If you can make up whichever manners suit you and it is all purely down to personal taste and subjective opinion, then where do you draw a line and where does it end? Extrapolate that to society more broadly, where acceptable standards in terms of morality and values and right conduct are out the window and its the land of do whatever you like all the time and we're living under the tyranny of relativism. It's the last days of Rome. We have passed the peak of our civilisation and its going to be a long decline back to barbarism.

RainbowsAreNotTheOnlyFruit · 23/12/2024 21:02

InWalksBarberalla · 21/12/2024 00:52

I've literally never seen anyone do this covering their mouth when eating? Is it common in your circles?

Not in my immediate friendship groups but seems to be a thing amongst younger friends and relatives, although I have one friend in her 40s whose started doing it.

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