AIBU to feel sorry for the 100 dogs a month destroyed since the XL Bully ban

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I hate the whole XL Bully thing, they are a travesty against nature and the primary market appears to be antisocial idiots (not all owners obviously).

But I also love animals, especially dogs, and to hear the police are destroying an average of one hundred banned breeds a month is upsetting. They are still (arguably) sentient beings who experience pain and fear, many will have been mistreated. They didn't ask for some dickhead to fuck with their genes and make them potential monsters.

I'm quite happy for the breeds to be eliminated. I still feel sorry for the innocent dogs losing their lives whilst the breeders and owners usually seem to walk away without consequence.

AIBU to feel this way?

No, I'd have them all put down tbh.

I feel sorry for them, too.

They are just animals. They can't help what humans have turned them into.

But. Safety first, and even though it's not their fault that any of them could turn at some point and kill, they have to be put down.

behavioural euthanasia is a recognised part of veterinary care, so while it's awful they are aware its part of their job. seized XL bullies are BE cases.

People can hold two views at once about something.

Hypocrites can, I agree.

There is nothing hypocritical about it. the killing of an animal that is bred purely for food is necessary, it does not equate to the BE of a pet.

To try and equate the two is a strawman arguement.

People have had to surrender their dogs to be PTS simply because they didn't have the right paperwork.

Pitbull types have been seized and PTS for years, simply because of their measurements, and nothing to do with their behaviour.
There was a documentary years back about dangerous dogs, and there was a female dog that was seized for looking like a pitbull. The staff at the centre loved her... she was very sweet and playful, and passed every test they did about her reactions and behaviour. It was her measurements that meant she needed to be registered, muzzled etc. Her owner refused, so she was PTS. The staff were very upset, but that was the law.

No, you're not BU OP.
These animals were created by humanity, to appease humanity.
They are living sentient beings who are being killed, whether they have done anything to "deserve" their lives being eradicated or not, because of humanity.

We are the cunts of the universe.

and entirely the owners fault for refusing to do the one thing that would save her.

It's not necessary though. I have been vegan for 30+ years. My kids have never eaten meat or dairy.

It IS necessary, though, to protect ourselves from dogs strong enough to kill us and prone to aggression. It is necessary to cull dangerous dogs.

It eventually needs to be addressed at source. Expensive pet permits, limit on number of dogs owned per person, no breeding unless registered as one and well qualified. All dogs must be neutered, chipped and vaccinated before leaving the breeders unless kept by the breeder etc etc. doesn't solve the problem but in 10-15 years it would.

The owner of that Pitbull type dog clearly didn't care about it at all.
The refused to comply in the full knowledge that this would result in the dog being euthanized- presumably she wanted rid of it🤷🏻‍♀️

Humanely put to sleep

Nope, can't muster any sadness there

But why choose that breed in the first place, when there are dozens of other breeds to choose from?
Why not just choose a breed that doesn't require paperwork or measuring?
There is no point in perpetuating a breed that comes with these requirements.

It’s the least worst option for the dogs. A life in a kennel is no life.

does this also cause heartache?

I would not wish harm on any animal and live my life accordingly.

Not really. They don't have a concept of life and death and the process doesn't cause them any pain. As far as they are concerned, they are probably upset to have been separated from their owner and irritated by the injection and that's it.

I think most people would agree with you?

Apparently not - according to the AIBU poll. Apparently it is beyond most people to realise it's possible to know the ban is necessary, to accept the breed needs to go and that this means individuals need to die and yet to also realise that humans have fucked these dogs over cruelly, creating them they way in a form that means they now have to die.

It's fucking awful what humans have done. (And what they will do agin to the next breed).

Yes, these dogs need to go and being PTS may be the least worst outcome for them. But it's evil that they were created like that to start with.

YANBU because none of it is the dogs' fault. They should never have been bred, and I agree that they need to be removed from the canine gene pool as soon as possible, so I am not against euthanising them, but I do feel sad for the individual dogs.

If politicians made the decision to bring back dog licences at (say) £250/year then councils would then have the money available to employ a decent number of dog wardens for every neighbourhood.

And before anyone jumps down my throat, people pay at least £200 a year for Sky TV, mobile contracts and other concessionary spending, so most people could afford this. Keeping a dog should not be cheap.

Also, and to state the obvious, but we all know that it's a certain type of person, usually living in a certain type of area, who owns this kind of dog - and the dog's victims are usually their kids or neighbours.

I live in this kind of community BTW - and that's why local dog wardens are so important. They'd know their communities, they'd know the people involved, and they'd know who to sanction.

They won't have a clue though, they have no concept of death.

Unlike this man:

https://news.sky.com/story/man-dies-after-dog-attack-in-east-london-13267722?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR0I8p1cJ-wknBdhvvnkrAQlCOR_1J7Zv-UhZec1GehWyoyIP-fnrpVGx2g_aem_dosVQ4F0NfvjXssXZIkMBQ

They were bred to fight. They were bred to be aggressive. They are dangerous, unpredictable and have no other value. That is completely the fault of the breeders and the owners, but nevertheless the best thing for all of them is a quick injection.

I agree. It's sad in that these creatures didn't ask to be born; they were bred by greedy people looking to make money. I feel sorry for the victims who have suffered from being attacked but these animals. Ultimately humans are to blame for cross-cross-cross breeding to produce this animals.

People have their staffies also seized and kept for months only to be returned in an awful state because it turned out they were not actually pitbulls.

This is what should be happening.