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To be petrified driving on motorways

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mollyfolk · 14/12/2024 13:19

Anyone else scared of driving on motorways? I'm driving years but mostly within 20km of where I live. I avoid motorways or long distances as much as possible. I have to make a 3 hour journey now on Monday, mostly motorway, and I am already feeling sick about it.

I do breathing exercises to stay calm when driving like this. Has anyone overcome a phobia like this?

OP posts:
Shade17 · 17/12/2024 14:17

pointythings · 17/12/2024 14:14

That data is meaningless without context, i.e. the types of road where these crashes happened. Round my way, the fatalities tend to happen on two lane A roads. Speed is often a factor, but so is unsafe overtaking. And overtaking on a bendy two lane A road is inherently riskier than overtaking on a motorway.

Well yes, obviously that’s an overall figure. Failing to look properly is by far the biggest contributory factor reported in all collisions. Motorways are incredibly safe, around 70 fatalities per year which is incredible given the number miles driven.

ElaborateCushion · 17/12/2024 15:10

andHelenknowsimmiserablenow · 17/12/2024 12:36

😁 Well done. BMWs are so hard to drive in the snow.

Between you and me I think it was a lot more luck than skill! 😂

That said, my BMW is a lot easier to drive in snow than DH's VW with a DSG box. At least I can manually select second gear to get going, unlike him!

CloudywMeatballs · 17/12/2024 15:35

mollyfolk · 16/12/2024 10:21

Well successfully made it this morning without a hitch.

Changed my plans so I only drove an hour to a friend's house and we went in her car the rest of the way.

It was fine, I just need to do it more often. It becomes a very big deal in my head otherwise.

Thanks for all the encouraging words.

I'm glad you managed OK.

I'm of the opinion that if you can drive (competently and confidently enough to be safe), then there's no reason you shouldn't be comfortable driving on motorways. If you don't feel confident driving at speed and/or changing lanes, which are the only differences on a motorway, you shouldn't be driving at all.

Allfur · 17/12/2024 15:50

ExceededUsefulEconomicLife · 17/12/2024 07:18

@Allfur not quite the same! you have stated that speeding and driving recklessly are the biggest causes of motorway accidents which sounds like something that needs to be backed up statistically. I've just said that nervous drivers are dangerous which is a fact that does not need to be backed up statically as we all see it - same as speeding and reckless driving. I'm not saying they cause accidents, I'm saying we, the competent, have to watch out more for them to avoid.

Thank god you, the competent, are able to keep the roads safe

Dreamskies · 17/12/2024 15:53

If you’re that scared, don’t do it. It sounds like you could easily cause an accident.

When I was young and my friend was a bit nervous if the motorway I advised her to stay in the left hand lane where she could relax more and know she wasn’t in anyone’s way. For some reason she was overtaking people and spending time in the middle and outer lane which only makes the stress higher.

ExceededUsefulEconomicLife · 17/12/2024 15:54

Allfur · 17/12/2024 15:50

Thank god you, the competent, are able to keep the roads safe

I know right! You’re welcome ☺️

YarkYark · 17/12/2024 15:55

ElaborateCushion · 17/12/2024 15:10

Between you and me I think it was a lot more luck than skill! 😂

That said, my BMW is a lot easier to drive in snow than DH's VW with a DSG box. At least I can manually select second gear to get going, unlike him!

Of course you can select 2nd gear, or any other, in a DSG car. It can be driven just as a manual.

Shade17 · 17/12/2024 16:11

YarkYark · 17/12/2024 15:55

Of course you can select 2nd gear, or any other, in a DSG car. It can be driven just as a manual.

Possibly not to pull away though. Many traditional auto boxes would pull away in second with “snow mode” selected. There are many versions of DSG though so maybe some will.

mrlistersgelfbride · 17/12/2024 16:44

I was a very nervous driver 10 years ago I would never have believed I would do regular motorway driving. But I had to commute for work for years and am on motorways every day now.
Whilst it's definitely not uncommon, it seems a shame to restrict yourself.

If you are nervous, practice joining motorways with a calm and patient friend or partner, or can you book some lessons with an instructor? Drive for a couple of junctions and come off. Repeat until you feel more confident.
Honestly it's pretty simple.

I still get nervous in bad weather, but surely everyone does?
Take it steady, you don't have to overtake. Doing 50 to 60 and keeping in the left hand lane is fine.

Allfur · 17/12/2024 17:03

Speeding, tail gating, reckless over taking , are all major causes of mororway accidents, and hgv's dont have a great track record either

Natsku · 17/12/2024 17:03

GenAvocadoOnToast · 17/12/2024 11:15

@ExceededUsefulEconomicLife all I can remember is something about trying to set off from second gear if possible, accelerate slowly and if you skid then don't try to make any sudden corrections (which I imagine is very difficult to in practice if you're skidding head on into a bus). I've only had to drive in snow and ice a couple of times but back then roads were well gritted overnight, which wasn't the case the last time we had ice here so I stayed at home.

When I was driving in the snow yesterday I got stuck on a hill, was very frustrating, was about to give up and go down the wrong way on a one way system (so early in the morning no one else was about and it was only 20 metres) but gave it one last go and just got up there. Which was better luck than the lorry driver (so a very experienced driver) who got stuck trying to turn up the hill to my workplace and almost completely blocked the road - coworker had to reverse, then go really fast and take a sharp turn to get up the hill without crashing into the lorry. Definitely not for the inexperienced or faint-hearted! (Nor was just driving in the snow, lost control momentarily many times, quite terrifying but at least everyone else on the road had the same idea and drove very slowly)

FionaSkates · 17/12/2024 18:56

pollymere · 16/12/2024 21:18

I've just had some scary incidents involving lorries pulling out and not seeing me. Too many near misses!

Yep haha and the lorries always behave like it’s your fault. Plonkers.

TizerorFizz · 17/12/2024 20:17

@pointythings I listed the major contributors to accidents with fatalities pages ago. Government data for 2023. 25% not wearing seat belts. No one ever mentions that. It’s always speeding that’s cited as the most common factor. On motorways (which terrifies the Op) it’s not just speeding. It’s inattention and many other things. 84 fatalities on motorways last year and deaths would be a lot lower with 100% seat belts worn.

pointythings · 17/12/2024 20:30

@TizerorFizz I agree with you and always have! Motorways are the safest of our roads, rural two lane roads are the most lethal. There are three US air bases in my patch and it's so often newly arrived airmen who are involved in accidents because they just aren't used to the kinds of roads we have here.

TizerorFizz · 17/12/2024 20:37

@pointythings Like the American woman who killed the young motorcyclist. Yes, making mistakes like that is obviously catastrophic. Like driving the wrong way on a motorway. Mistakes are made with terrible consequences and it’s not always speed that’s to blame.

Shade17 · 17/12/2024 20:39

TizerorFizz · 17/12/2024 20:17

@pointythings I listed the major contributors to accidents with fatalities pages ago. Government data for 2023. 25% not wearing seat belts. No one ever mentions that. It’s always speeding that’s cited as the most common factor. On motorways (which terrifies the Op) it’s not just speeding. It’s inattention and many other things. 84 fatalities on motorways last year and deaths would be a lot lower with 100% seat belts worn.

I just looked at the figures again. The non-seatbelt use is only a percentage of collisions where seatbelt use was recorded so it’s only about 100 fatalities that weren’t wearing them.

TizerorFizz · 17/12/2024 21:22

@Shade17 This is the info from 2022 on the gov web site. I think it means 21% of all fatalities.

To be petrified driving on motorways
Meemeows · 17/12/2024 23:58

Isometimeswonder · 14/12/2024 13:31

I'm the opposite. Fine driving on motorways, but hate towns and changing lanes etc

How can you drive properly on a motorway without changing lanes?

Shade17 · 18/12/2024 07:54

TizerorFizz · 17/12/2024 21:22

@Shade17 This is the info from 2022 on the gov web site. I think it means 21% of all fatalities.

Take another look. You’ll see it’s about 100 fatalities.

www.gov.uk/government/statistics/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-fatal-4-factsheet-2023/reported-road-casualties-great-britain-fatal-4-seatbelt-factsheet-2023#:~:text=3.-,Overall%20summary,as%20not%20wearing%20a%20seatbelt.

Allfur · 18/12/2024 07:57

Isn't the cause of crashes more relevant than the cause of deaths?

TizerorFizz · 18/12/2024 08:34

@Allfur
I think deaths are what really matters. There are a vast number of crashes on roads and many are minor. Most are not on motorways. The main info is that motorway deaths (the worst crashes) are very very low when you consider miles travelled. Drivers are far more likely to be involved in a crash on other roads yet posters seem to think motorways are populated by speeding cars. The whole point is that motorway driving is different but much safer.

For a nervous driver, getting onto the motorway is the most stressful manoeuvre. So it needs practice, preferably with an experienced driver in the passenger seat.

People who don’t use them presumably don’t travel on holiday much. Or go to major airports. Many millions of drivers use them safely.

Isometimeswonder · 18/12/2024 09:29

Meemeows · 17/12/2024 23:58

How can you drive properly on a motorway without changing lanes?

I didn't say I never change lanes on a motorway. Don't be obtuse.
I meant I don't like changing lanes when negotiating city centres. You have no time, people are impatient etc.
On a motorway I know what lane to be in, I'm prepared for my junction.

ElaborateCushion · 18/12/2024 10:09

YarkYark · 17/12/2024 15:55

Of course you can select 2nd gear, or any other, in a DSG car. It can be driven just as a manual.

Not DH's. In my car I can manually select 2nd gear when I'm stationary by selecting "sport" mode on the gear stick and using that or the paddles to go up to second gear. My car won't change gears if I'm in manual mode, unless I change it.

Even in "manual" mode, DH's car will not select 2nd gear to drive off in. Even in "manual" mode, if the car thinks it's in the wrong gear, it will change it for you. You don't have full control of the gearbox on DH's DSG.

GenAvocadoOnToast · 18/12/2024 10:33

I don't know about motorways but this thread has certainly made me very anxious about driving on a busy, very bendy rural single-carriageway road this evening!

RaraRachael · 18/12/2024 11:14

There are no motorways where I live but the area has a very high road death toll - mainly due to obsessive overtaking. My dad drove like this. Even if he was turning off half a mile ahead, he'd overtake the car in front. It's also due to the amount of foreign tourists forgetting to drive on the left. One of the main roads (A9) deviates from single to dual carriageway and lots of tourists don't realise they're on a single bit of road.

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