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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Beeloux · 13/12/2024 14:49

She sounds horrendous, why couldn’t you sleep on the sofa? Making you pay that amount of rent for the GARAGE in which you had to furnish yourself. On top of that forcing you to be an unpaid live in nanny.
I would be telling her to piss off and not give her a penny!

MargaretThursday · 13/12/2024 14:49

You say he isn't abusive, but how do you know? Abusers, especially coercive control hide it very well in front of other people.
I wonder whether she was forced to give the list of rules by him, because she offered freely, but then went back after speaking to him.

AnxietyLevelMax · 13/12/2024 14:49

Oh op please don’t fall for it…help her within your abilities and say to stick with her husband for few more months and if you get a flat they will be able to stay over for xxx amount and xxx time. (I know you might not have a space for 4 more people but oh well…at least you are willing to help and cannot afford a bigger place so she cant take the offer or leave it)

dont let her guilt trip you. I am so surprised and angry on your behalf she can be such a CF

commonsense61 · 13/12/2024 14:50

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NotStayingIn · 13/12/2024 14:50

I don't quite get why you would ever have told your sister about your win when it was quite clear from her behaviour that she values money above you. This was so clearly never going to end well.

I would just lie now, given other family members are also involved. Say the money is committed, you've used it to pay for fees, whatever. I think at this point I would be so angry though I would also set her straight on her "help" in the past.

Walker1178 · 13/12/2024 14:51

Your sister provided you with a solution that benefitted her living arrangements, she didn’t put herself out in any way and sounds like it helped her family quite a bit having you around. You’re not in debt to her OP, please don’t put yourself backwards so your DSis can move forward! Your priority is to ensure suitable housing for yourself above anyone else

PandyMoanyMum · 13/12/2024 14:51

Er, the description of your sister’s ’generosity’ sounds rather like modern day slavery.
With added emotional manipulation re: nieces and nephews. How old are they? It might not be long before they can have an independent relationship with you ie as soon as they have phones

letthemalldoone · 13/12/2024 14:51

Maray1967 · 13/12/2024 14:26

But she didn’t help you! She charged you £375 a month to park on her drive and use the shower. What on earth?!!

I’d offer to return the favour. She can live in your van on your drive for £375.

And unfortunately you’ve had to learn a lesson the hard way - don’t tell relatives about your finances.

This!!

And if she had been a caring sister, she would have let you use the spare room immediately, not saving it for a child not even born at that stage! Surely she could have come up with some combination of sleeping arrangements that would have allowed for this?

Plus she left you stuck in your horrible situation for months while saving up enough to pay the greedy fuckers rent!!!

She didn't do you much of a 'favour' at all!

I don't know why on earth you told anyone about your win. Don't ever make that mistake again.

She can move in with your dad or your cousins then, if they are so concerned! Didn't see any of them rally round for you either did we?

FatCatSkinnyRat · 13/12/2024 14:52

TwixForTea · 13/12/2024 14:30

Seriously why would you tell you sister you won the money … big mistake

Agree. Never tell anyone about a lotto win! People come out of the woodwork with their sob stories

TokyoSushi · 13/12/2024 14:52

She charged you £375 per month to live in her damp garage, don't give her a penny.

Cattery · 13/12/2024 14:52

She charged you rent to live in her garage. Bollocks to her. Enjoy your new flat x

Noodlesnotstrudels · 13/12/2024 14:53

She sounds dreadful. A baby doesn't even need its own room for ages. DD2 is 8months and still in with us. How awful of her to leave you in an abusive relationship like that. Do not give her a penny.

If you want to be charitable, I like @TheSilkWorm suggestion of offering your van and charging her rent.

Stay strong, OP 💪 and don't be swayed by the rest of your interfering family.

PandaCwtch · 13/12/2024 14:53

StrawberryWater · 13/12/2024 14:49

Tell her she can have the van.

Personally I don't believe she's leaving her husband. I'm sure if you gave her half your money there would be a miraculous reconciliation.

Also she didn't help you out, she used you as a slave and took advantage.

Tell her to get stuffed.

Nah, tell her she can rent your van from you at £375 a month

There's all sorts of ways she could have been more helpful than she was, so she's a full-blown CF

Epidote · 13/12/2024 14:53

Your sister can live in your van parked on your garage for 400 quid a month.
The kids is a complete different story.

Bigcat25 · 13/12/2024 14:54

Her asking for six months rent to find a job is ridiculous. It's not urgent, she's just bored. She can look for a job then move. Who knows if this rouse is even true that she wants to leave?

She put you through three months of hell in order to save her stupid rent, and wouldn't let you pay her back later. To rent a place that gave you pnemonia.

She's trying to emotionally blackmail you. You have done many nice things by babysitting and driving her around for free, while they have given you nothing for free. The rent was expensive enough just to park in a garage. Keep your money as an emergency fund or for refurb. Things always come up when you own a home and it's good to have a cushion. Very sorry, op.

ilovelamp82 · 13/12/2024 14:54

TheSilkWorm · 13/12/2024 14:24

Offer her a van in the garage for £375 a month 🤷🏼‍♀️
Is she offering to repay the money? If so, is she trustworthy? what's the reason she can't afford to move out herself?

This!

You don't owe her anything. And with the way she has handled it, even less so. She has made it quite clear she wouldn't do it for you so don't feel bad. Withholding your nieces from you and you from them is manipulative and cruel and shows the kind of person she is, and that is not the kind of person you give your money to. Congratulations on you win. Use it on yourself. You deserve it.

TiredTuftyTeddy · 13/12/2024 14:55

I feel your sister was a little cruel, even sleeping on the sofa would have been better than in the garage! Given your circumstances I can't believe she carried on with her life whilst you were in the garage! Seems absolutely nuts!

Use 'your' winnings and put it down on the flat, even tell a white lie and say it was already done before you realised she needed help.

If she's desperate offer her the van.

ScrollingLeaves · 13/12/2024 14:56

I voted tgat you are not being unreasonable.

It may have been her husband charging you all that money to live in your van on their premises - as if you were renting a room in their house - but it was not very nice of them.

What I would suggest is, if you can, getting a two room flat for yourself. In your name only, and letting her stay with youas a lodger only, paying enough weekly to cover her share for electricity, gas, insurance council tax and wear and tear ( there is a tax free allowance for this for you); and then also buying her own share of food.

Then she can do what you did and save up for a deposit on her own place.

WinWhenTheyreSinging · 13/12/2024 14:56

Should you make a flat deposit unaffordable for yourself to support someone who let you live in their garage like a dog AND charged you a not insubstantial sum for it? Let's give that some thought ...

Jackiepumpkinhead · 13/12/2024 14:57

She didn’t let you ‘move in’, she let you use her cold garage and charged you a ridiculous amount of money. She also took advantage of your situation with the child and pet sitting etc. Tell her to get lost (or in nicer terms) regarding the money.

WildCats24 · 13/12/2024 14:58

Nope. She can pay you £375/month to live in your parking space at your flat (plus house sitting and pet sitting chores for free), and can have a shower.

DoNotAdjustYourSex · 13/12/2024 14:58

Pay for her to see a solicitor, who is likely to tell her to stay in the marital home, then there won’t be any argument about lending her any money. (Obviously this only applies if she isn’t in any danger) but she did not treat you at all well, they charged you to live in your van in their garage. I’m afraid you reap what you sow, and in this case she sowed a whole crock of shit.

Please take whatever steps you need to secure your own future, you deserve to have your own home. Then you may be able to help your sister.

unclebuck · 13/12/2024 14:59

tell her she can stay on your sofa for £375 a month . I am sorry this happened to you OP

Didsomeonesaydogs · 13/12/2024 14:59

SatansBobbleheadedDashboardOrnament · 13/12/2024 14:49

I wouldn't be at all surprised if you gave her some of your winnings and she suddenly miraculously made up with her husband.

This is exactly where my mind went.

JacCharlton · 13/12/2024 15:01

I would never let my sister live in a van ! Sounds like you were treat like a 2nd class citizen - take your winnings and have a fresh start - she wants a flat yet she was happy to let you rent space for your van - speechless.