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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

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Jostuki · 13/12/2024 21:26

Your sister is a cunt.

caringcarer · 13/12/2024 21:39

Your sister sounds really mean. She took advantage of you when you were vulnerable and desperate. Now she expects money from you again. Tell her once you get somewhere she can pay you to live in your garage.

StepUpSlowly · 13/12/2024 21:52

Your sister is absolutely awful, OP. She wouldn’t get a penny from me.

I am the oldest siblings of 5. And I would never ever treat any of my siblings the way your sister treated you.

The fact that you confided in her regarding your abuse and that she forced you to stay an extra 3 months, couldn’t even be bothered to house you properly AND made you pay on top of it is horrifying to me. The fact that she thinks you should give her half of your winnings is absolutely bonkers.

Just so you don’t let yourself be manipulated. Here is what healthy/helpful siblings dynamic can look like:

  • one of my siblings (17) was behind in school and kind of lost and needed a change of scenery. I offered to host him for free for a year (I live abroad) while he found himself so he could also have the opportunity to learn a new language, bettering his opportunity to find a job.
  • another sibling (23) earns a lot less than me (minimum wage) but it doesn’t matter if I offer to pay for him when we see each other he always beat me to it and pays for himself (he would never take advantage even though he absolutely total could).

As a result I have decided to give my 23yo sibling a hand and get him on the property ladder by buying a flat with him. It’s not a financial decision that necessarily make financial sense for me BUT it’s something I can do and want to do to help my sibling, in a world where it’s harder and harder to get a property.

Despite me doing that if he became a millionaire tomorrow I absolutely wouldn’t expect him to give me money (I might expect a drink to celebrate though!)

I think when you care about people you make sure you build them up. You don’t drag them down and you celebrate the good things in their life and don’t try and see how you can benefit from it.

If a sister called me to say she was in an abusive situation I would be at her doorstep with 10 men I know to make sure she is safely escorted out of her flat and moving in with me no questions asked, no rent involved no nothing. And absolutely no way would she be made to sleep in a damp van or act as my chauffeur or maid.

And I am not even close to my family, at all. I see my siblings maybe twice a year. So I can’t imagine being closer than this and behaving like your sister. It’s outrageous actually. And I would let her cut contact and would just have contact with my nieces and nephews once they grow older and have access to their own social medias and means of communication.

It sucks but you have worked so hard to be free. Don’t let your sister set you back.

Iloveacurry · 13/12/2024 21:52

Funny she didn’t mention about being unhappy with her husband before your lottery win ….

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 13/12/2024 21:57

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

This! She didn’t you - she made your life much harder than she needed to and actually profited from your ill fortune. And now she wants half of your money too - absolutely not!

How was she when you were younger - as she sounds abusive and manipulative too, and as thought she could well have set you up to be vulnerable to an abuser.

MoodEnhancer · 13/12/2024 22:04

Does no one else think this is made up?

MaryGreenhill · 13/12/2024 22:06

MoodEnhancer · 13/12/2024 22:04

Does no one else think this is made up?

Yes fortunately

TeaAndTattoos · 13/12/2024 22:08

YANBU at all she didn’t help you in any way she just took advantage of your desperate situation and made you her skivvy and gave you no choice but to stay in a dangerous situation longer because of her ridiculous rent and rules. Nah fuck that take your money get your flat do it up and distance yourself from your family.

Bigcat25 · 13/12/2024 22:29

Perhaps you could see the kids through her ex if she does actually leave him. She might take your money and never go anyway.

ceallachmint · 13/12/2024 22:48

She let u park ur van in a garage, live in it, and catch pneumonia, along with her long list of free labour she demanded from u, oh and charged u 375 quid for the privellage.

U sound like a warrior and I'm glad u won that money. Give her fuck all.

cantthinkofausernametoadd · 13/12/2024 23:00

Nope. Nope. Nope. And why on earth did you share news of your win until you bought a place and had settled?!

cantthinkofausernametoadd · 13/12/2024 23:01

MoodEnhancer · 13/12/2024 22:04

Does no one else think this is made up?

Yes- that was my first thought and I was going to add "if this is real then..."

OrangeCarrot · 13/12/2024 23:06

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WickedWitchOfTheEast87 · 13/12/2024 23:56

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

^^
This with bloody jingle bells on!!!

I am not often shocked but my jaw has dropped to the floor, your sister is a selfish cheeky fucker who took advantage of your desperation to escape abuse and she charged you rent and used you as a skivy and now she wants half of your winnings!!! 😱😱😱😱 TELL HER TO GET FUCKED AND ASK HER WHAT SHE DID WITH THE £9000 RENT MONEY SHE MADE OFF OF YOU!!!! my god what a cheeky fucker and a selfish entitled cunt. As for your family tell them to mind their own business and your sister made £9000 off you which is a lot of money. Keep your winnings and do your flat up don't you dare give your sister a penny.

Normallynumb · 14/12/2024 00:07

YANBU
She exploited you by charging you to park in her garage and using you as free pet/ child sitter
Keep every penny. You need it to create yourself a home
Family who cared would be delighted for you, not turn into Vultures

Ebeneser · 14/12/2024 00:33

Nah fuck her, she didn't help you she capitalised on your misfortune @SarahJP95

ItsFreedomBabyYeah · 14/12/2024 00:49

Treat her the same way she treated you. $375 per month plus other stuff.

starstar84 · 14/12/2024 01:06

Honestly, fuck her. They took advantage of you and made money from a period when you were at your most vulnerable. And used you for baby sitting! Enjoy the money, you deserve it, and tell your sister it’s not possible. Doesn’t need any further explanation. What a cheeky bitch!

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SaMMaxis170 · 14/12/2024 08:22

personally id keep any lotto wins secret

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SarahJP95 · 14/12/2024 12:48

UPDATE:

Hi everyone, I wanted to edit my original post but can't seem to so I'm hoping that everyone can see this new post.

I just wanted to start by saying thank you so much to everyone who replied, I have read each and every post and wish I could reply to them all but I was honestly overwhelmed by how many people answered, I was sat in tears reading through them all last night. To have literally hundreds of people tell me I'm not in the wrong and that that they support me and everything I've been through has been so incredibly cathartic and has honestly really opened my eyes.

I did go to see my sister this morning and finally confronted her about everything, I have you all to thank for that as I would never have been brave enough to do it otherwise. It started as an argument but we quickly calmed down and just talked it all through, I'll bullet point the main things we discussed to try to keep this post short.

  1. It turns out that my sister thought I had been lying about my abusive ex. She told me that she had really liked him and just couldn't believe that he would have ever even raised his voice to me, I explained that he was a completely different person when we were around other people and it hadn't gotten really bad until the last year of our relationship. She was understandably very upset and apologised profusely, said she thought I had just gotten bored of him and couldn't be bothered to pay to rent a room so that's why I had asked to move in with her. I keep things very close to my chest so I should have talked to her about it properly right from the start and we've agreed to sit down soon and talk it through and see if I can find a therapist I can talk to as well.
  2. Her husband didn't know how much I was paying in rent. This was the worst revelation to be honest, it's going to take a while to get past this even though I can see her reasoning. She's been a stay at home mum for a long time and has really struggled with not having any money to spend on herself, everything her husband gives her goes directly into the food shop or clothes for the kids and they have a very tight budget. When she first approached him about me moving my van into their garage he suggested the chores/childsitting/petsitting plus £150 a month to cover the electricity and other bills which I think would have been very reasonable but she kept the rest for herself and never told him how much I was giving her a month. Again I wish I had just had a discussion about it with him but I'm a very shy person and don't like confrontation at the best of times. I also told her that if she had just been honest with me right from the start we could have worked something out since I would have always helped her if she had just asked.
  3. She didn't know how much money I had won. Again I should have just been honest, I actually wish I had never told anyone like everyone here has been saying but I know my family would have been suspicious if I had just suddenly bought a flat out of nowhere. I actually had quite a lot already saved up from my new job and selling my van, more than half of the deposit but I hadn't told her that so she assumed I had won enough for a full deposit. I explained to her that although it was a lot of money (for me at least) it was only enough for half of the deposit and I was still going to have to get a 40 year mortgage.
  4. Her marriage is in a worse state than I originally thought. I feel awful about this one and wish she had told me sooner, her and her husband have apparently been on the rocks for the last 5 years or so and thought having another baby would help but it's just made them much worse off financially. I said while I can't help her financially at the moment I will help out in any way I can especially if she does decide to leave him. For the moment we have agreed that my oldest nephew (who's 15) is going to come and stay with me for a while to help ease the tension in the house as he has been the cause of a lot of family arguments lately, I have always been very close with him and it'll be good for him to get away from that environment for a while until everything settles down.

That's about it for now, I want to thank everyone again so much for giving me the courage to finally straighten this all out. ❤

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5iveleafclovers · 14/12/2024 13:00

Your update honestly doesn't paint your sister in a better light. She thought you were lying about being in an abusive relationship, she admitted to scamming you and now wants to offload her son onto you. Did she mention giving you expenses to cover her son living with you?

WildCats24 · 14/12/2024 13:10

She completely took advantage of you when you needed her support the most. Ouch.

missod · 14/12/2024 13:11

Blimey, she sounds even worse now.