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For not wanting to share my lottery winnings with my sister after she let me move in with her?

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SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

OP posts:
Poodleville · 13/12/2024 17:40

YANBU!!!!
When Cinderella got her glass slipper, she did not hand it over to the ugly step sisters!
She gave you the minimum of help when you were in a really rough situation. And now she is asking SO much from you, that will jeopardise your future security. Your family piling on with the accusations sound bang out of order.

Also, she massively shifted the goal posts on you a week before you were due to leave abusive ex. If you'd known she was going to charge you so much rent to park your van/home in her garage... you possibly wouldn't have spent all your savings renovating it, and could have just rented a room elsewhere.

Please know there is nothing wrong in putting yourself first in situations like this.

Thereislightattheendofthetunnel · 13/12/2024 17:43

WhereYouLeftIt · 13/12/2024 17:28

Your sister is, frankly, a piece of work. She took advantage of you, benefitting financially from your desperation to leave an abusive relationship and then turning you into a skivvy to boot.

She is not in the same situation as you were at all. At worst she is bored by her husband, but I'd even question that. In fact, I'll come right out and say it -

IF YOU GIVE HER MONEY SHE AND HER HUSBAND WILL MAGICALLY RECONCILE AND HER 'SIX MONTHS RENT' WILL DISAPPEAR INTO THEIR JOINT ACCOUNT, NEVER TO BE SEEN (BY YOU) AGAIN.

This with bells on.

Do not fall for her bluff

starlight889 · 13/12/2024 17:48

YANBU!!

On the surface it might have looked like she helped you out before but in reality she didn’t. She made you pay to sleep in your own van in her garage, babysit for free and be her personal taxi service. She also made you stay with an abusive partner for longer than you needed to.

Keep your money, get the nice flat and do it up how you were planning and don’t give her a penny.

I lived with my sister on and off from the age of 16 to 20 and she never charged me rent although I did force her to take some money from me every month.

In respect of seeing your nieces and nephews, you would be eligible to take this to court if you were wishing (if your sister did stop you). You lived with them for over a year and have an established relationship with them. You’d need to apply for leave (permission) from the court before an official application and mediation but other than that it would be pretty straightforward!

MrsGhastlyCrumb · 13/12/2024 17:51

Maboscelar · 13/12/2024 14:22

YANBU. It's your money and she didn't help you back then, she took advantage of your desperation to make you her skivvy who also paid to live in a damp garage!! She treated you badly. Spend the money on yourself and do not feel guilty.

This- which is, I am assuming, the same as every response here not written by someone criminally insane.

Dontwearmysocks · 13/12/2024 17:55

Purplebunnie · 13/12/2024 14:26

But she didn't really help you did she? She was financially advantaged by the rent you paid her - you were parked on her drive!!! I'm also not sure of the legalities of you being parked on her drive and paying rent - council tax etc

You were also obliged (not sure if it actually took place) to babysit for free, run her around - bet she never gave you petrol money

Had you not lived on her drive and gone to Woman's Aid you would probably have got yourself sorted quicker and have more money before even winning some on the lottery.

You will be very very unreasonable if you do as she asks

100%.

perhaps offer her an airbed to sleep on your floor and ask that she pays £400pcm for the privilege and does all of your housework and cooking whilst she is at a loose end job hunting.

what a cheeky cow.

pinkdelight · 13/12/2024 17:57

I don't think your sister is awful. She had a third baby on the way and a full house and you landed on her and her non-wonderful DH and stayed for two years. It wasn't great that she charged you and the whole/van garage set-up, but she was still there for you and apparently the only one who was or else you'd have gone elsewhere. It doesn't mean you owe her half your winnings, but I don't agree with people slagging her off too much as adding a sister in to the mix with a troubled married and three kids for two years is huge ask and she did it.

Havalona · 13/12/2024 17:59

Why Did You Tell Her About The Win?

4forksache · 13/12/2024 18:02

Let’s be charitable now. She gave you as much help as she could at the time, after taking into account her own personal circumstances. You give her as much help as you can after taking into account your own personal circumstances - Which isn’t a lot after you’ve paid the deposit on your flat. She didn’t go above and beyond and so you don’t have to either!

Mickey79 · 13/12/2024 18:06

Don’t give her a penny and if she never speaks to you again, it’s a bonus. Some people really are pond life aren’t they.

Concretejungle1 · 13/12/2024 18:07

Do not give her a penny. Look back at what you have written
look back at the ‘help’ your sister gave you.
that was not help.
you deserve every penny.
im very sorry if this true for your sister, but you are not her cash machine.
not anymore.

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 13/12/2024 18:13

Don’t give her a penny the CF!

SwerveCity · 13/12/2024 18:14

As others have said, offer her your garage plus rent. Sorry op but your sister sounds awful.

Dweetfidilove · 13/12/2024 18:25

She charged you almost market rent - for a van, with childcare and pet-sitting duties, after extending your time in misery by 3 months.
Nah - you don't owe her this.

If my sister was being abused, I expect I'd tell her -come now, as you are and here's a nice warm place to stay. At best, tell her she and the children can come and stay with you for a set time, while she saves a deposit.

Or your interfering family can help her, which is more than they did for you.

FridayFeelingmidweek · 13/12/2024 18:25

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

You owe her nothing. I read this thread snd assumed it was a joke. Who would charge you for staying on their drive? Mental. Enjoy your flat, emotionally support her if you feel able but you don't owe her.

PoshHorseyBird · 13/12/2024 18:26

Sorry...your sister charged you rent and wanted free labour and childsitting..in return for sleeping in her garage?? In your van?? WTF??!! Sounds like she benefited massively from you being there, especially financially! Use your money for yourself, please do not give her half.
Tell her when you buy your new place she can sleep in your garage. For a price of course! What's good for the goose and all that...

forrestgreen · 13/12/2024 18:27

She didn't support you
You were an paid housekeeper
You got charged a ridiculous price to park a van and have a shower.

It could have been her husband starting it but she went along with it and made your life awful. You even ended up ill.

I'm sorry but I wouldn't be helping. Tot up how much you gave her in rent and say she's already had all that

Mosaic123 · 13/12/2024 18:37

You paid her approx £9000 which is £375 x 24 months.

It didn't cost her much to let you live there.

Something to think about and tell your wider family who are criticising you.

Mamabearsmile · 13/12/2024 18:37

SarahJP95 · 13/12/2024 14:17

A bit of backstory, I (29f) have been very close to my sister (41f) since our mother passed about 10 years ago. We have always lived quite close to each other but a couple of years ago I moved away to live with my now ex partner, everything was great for about a year until he started to become more and more abusive towards me, I stuck it out though until it started becoming physical in our last year together.

I visited my sister and broke down and told her everything, to this day she's still the only person who knows the full extent of how bad it had been for me. I begged her to let me move in with her and she said I couldn't live in the house since her and her husband were expecting their third child so needed the spare room but I could park my van in their garage and stay in it for as long as I needed.

I was so relieved and started making plans immediately to break up with my partner and get away from him as soon as possible. I pretended I was refurbishing my work van so we could travel in it and he luckily didn't question it, I spent all of my savings converting it so it had a sleeping area, a toilet and a tiny kitchen.

I was about a week away from leaving when I received a phone call from my sister, we hadn't discussed rent yet but I had stupidly assumed from our conversations that I would just be able to pay for the cost of the electricity I would be using and then of course when I was back on my feet and had found a new job I could start paying them a bit more.

She said she had discussed it with her husband and they had come up with a list of rules I had to agree to before I could move in, this included childsitting and petsitting as and when needed (unpaid), helping in the garden and around the house and driving my sister to hospital appointments when her husband couldn't, I would have to provide everything for myself but I could use their shower if I needed to. I agreed to all of it but then she said the rent would be £375 a month as well. I was shocked, I really wasn't expecting it to be so high especially when I had agreed to everything else.

I begged her to give me a bit of leeway for the first couple of months since there was nowhere else I could go, she said it was non negotiable and it was still cheaper than renting a room somewhere else (about £450-£550 in our area), I was desperate and just wanted to be near family so I agreed. This did mean I had to wait an extra 3 months to leave my ex so I could save up enough money and it was honestly the worst 3 months of my life.

I lived with them for about 2 years in the end, I loved being able to see my nieces and nephews everyday but the van was cold and damp and I eventually developed pneumonia so moved out as soon as I had enough money saved for a deposit to rent a flat nearby. I still see my sister but honestly I have become quite resentful towards her which I know is petty since she did let me move in when she could have just said no, but I'm finding it hard to get past what happened.

Fast forward 6 months and I unexpectedly won a bit of money in the lottery, I play a couple times a months but never won anything until now, it wasn't a huge amount but I was so thrilled because it meant along with my savings I had enough to put down a deposit on a one bed flat I had fallen in love with, with a bit left over to fix it up and finally have a proper place of my own.

I hadn't heard from my sister for a couple of weeks but when I told her that I had won some money she started crying and said she wanted to meet up with me. I agreed of course, turns out she's been wanting to leave her husband for a long time but could never afford to move out with 3 kids, I was shocked because they always seemed really close but she has apparently been unhappy for a while. He's not abusive towards her thank god but she has described him as 'boring' in the past and says he never wants to do anything or go anywhere with her.

She's asked if I can give her half of my winnings so she can find a house to rent and pay the deposit on it with enough for the first 6 months or so of rent until she finds a new job, I said I couldn't do that as there wouldn't be enough for the flat I wanted and I have already began talking to a solicitor. I said I could give her the money I was going to use to refurbish the flat but that's it.

This escalated into a huge argument where she called me ungrateful, said she had supported me when I wanted to leave my partner, said I didn't love her or her kids and that if I didn't help her then she never wanted to see me again.

I am honestly so upset about the whole ordeal, the thought of never seeing my nieces and nephews again breaks my heart and I wish there was a way I could help my sister without losing out on buying a home for myself.

Our father and cousins have all contacted me saying I'm being selfish and I need to help my sister out after she helped me, I just don't know what the right thing to do would be. AIBU?

You are being manipulated. Rent your flat. Let all the people who are criticising you help her, especially since they didn't help you.

BubblesAndNibbles · 13/12/2024 18:39

Wow, what a grasping, selfish, greedy sister you have! She made you sleep parked in her cold, damp garage while forcing you into slave Labour — and charging you £375 a month on top! That's absolutely vile. She's used you and sounds utterly wicked.

I suspect she's lying about her marriage too; if she really wanted to separate from her husband as she's the mother of three children (one just a toddler) it would be him leaving the home, not her. So she's making this up to try and prey on your kind soft heart.

Tell her you've paid all the money to the solicitor and the property is all going through now, and what's more, the amount you thought you'd have left over has been eaten up by solicitor costs that you hadn't accounted for.

Whatever you do don't give her a single penny. She's a scroungers and her husband is in on it too — I guarantee it.

As for the rest of your family...you're better off without them.

Pookie2022 · 13/12/2024 18:40

Op you sound like a lovely and empathetic person, all these replies might feel overwhelming to you but please listen to everyone. Buy and renovate a home for yourself, you deserve it and the stability it will bring. It sounds like you’ve been through a lot and I’m not sure your sister has your best interests at heart.

CatherinedeBourgh · 13/12/2024 18:45

I would bet reasonable money on the fact that if you gave her half your winnings she would take them, decide she doesn't want to leave her husband after all and never give them back.

She's taking you for a mug, OP.

Goldengamer · 13/12/2024 18:45

Don’t you dare feel guilty , she should have bent over backwards to help you out when you were in trouble but charging you for the garage etc was awful . You enjoy your money , why should you give her anything. Stand your ground .

xyz111 · 13/12/2024 18:46

I'd offer her use of your van that you won't need any more. What a cheeky cow.

Robogob · 13/12/2024 18:51

Please, please do not give her a penny. She made you pay her to live in a VAN for years!

Buy your flat, kit it out, tell your family to fuck off, and live your best life.

BlondeFool · 13/12/2024 18:57

Tell her to fuck off. Seriously.

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