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To ask him to stop with the banter

46 replies

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:37

Been dating a guy for a couple of months. He’s not from the U.K.

From his short time living here, he seems to have gathered that Brits like banter. I genuinely do like this and it’s an important part of a relationship for me. I’m jolly good at it too!

Our first two dates he was a perfect gentleman and so sweet, but then he seemed to pick up on the fact that I liked a bit of a joking and light playfulness and jibing, and it has gotten out of control from there.

Now, he doesn’t bloody stop with it, and it’s become our “thing” that he’s always just taking jibes at me. We joke now about how he never says anything nice and he’s always mean to me.

He absolutely isn’t being intentionally mean to be malicious. I suspect there’s some neurodiversity at play, and/or he is trying (and failing) to behave how he thinks he should with a British woman.

I reached my limit today when I was trying to talk about something serious that happened at work and he just kept making jokes. I ended up making an excuse to get off the phone because I was so irritated.

He has many many redeeming features (thoughtful, considerate, fun) and it’d be a shame to have to end things here, but I’m reaching my limit with the “banter” and would quite like some normal couple-like romance and, dare I say, a compliment once in a while. I don’t want some slimy man who’s letching or simpering all over me, but somewhere in the middle would be nice.

I have only ever raised it to him lightheartedly before, but he seems to just think that’s part of the banter, and carries on.

AIBU to raise this with him more seriously, before I either cut my losses or resign myself to a relationship akin to a boy’s locker room?

And if so…how do I get him to understand, without sounding like I’m still joking, or sounding like I’m being a miserable bitch and starting an argument.

I’m due to see him Sunday night for a date and I really want to say something before then. I really don’t think it’s malicious so I don’t want to be unkind, but I’m really over it.

OP posts:
dermalermalurd · 12/12/2024 16:39

Just be straight with him. Tell him what you've told us.

Toopulululu · 12/12/2024 16:39

Deeply, deeply, annoying.

You do need to speak with him about thought. He might “get it”.

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

dermalermalurd · 12/12/2024 16:39

Just be straight with him. Tell him what you've told us.

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

OP posts:
Whathappensnowplease · 12/12/2024 16:45

I've always felt if somebody says something unpleasant to you and tries to pass it off as a joke or " banter" they actually really mean the nasty comment. And are just dressing it up as something else so they can get away with it.
So tbh I wouldn't want to continue in a relationship with a guy who talked to me like this because as far as I would be concerned he really didn't like or respect me.

FictionalCharacter · 12/12/2024 16:49

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

There is nothing wrong at all with wanting your partner to be nice to you. It's one of the minimum requirements for a relationship.
Constant jibes are not ok.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 12/12/2024 16:51

Get rid of him. He's testing you to see how much disrespect you can take then eventually he will just continue to up the ante until he's constantly speaking to you like shit unless he's after something.
It isn't banter if you aren't laughing. And it shouldn't be this complicated a few months in.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 12/12/2024 16:53

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

The fact you have even said that screams that you are a people pleaser and therefore a target for potential abusive relationships. I know that sounds extreme. But its a baseline level of respect that your partner is nice to you. The fact you worry about being seen as demanding is worrying.

Wavescrashingonthebeach · 12/12/2024 16:54

Now, he doesn’t bloody stop with it, and it’s become our “thing” that he’s always just taking jibes at me. We joke now about how he never says anything nice and he’s always mean to me.

Classic chipping away at your confidence.

Kitkatcatflap · 12/12/2024 16:58

You're dating Luke from Mafs UK aren't you?

IdaGlossop · 12/12/2024 17:01

I'm not sure you are asking him to be nice to you (although he shouldn't have to be asked). Instead, you're saying 'please let's have straightforward conversations most of the time. Joshing around is good from time to time but it's wearing if it's constant.'

ginasevern · 12/12/2024 17:02

Are you sure he is "just trying to be British"? This could be a fundamental part of his personality now he has his feet under the table, so to speak. I mean, most reasonable men of any culture would know that you don't act like Coco the Clown all the time or constantly put your girlfriend down. Where has he got this idea from anyway? I know banter is supposed to be part of our culture but this sounds fucking ridiculous.

BraveBlueDuck · 12/12/2024 17:08

Tell him straight. If he lightens up, great. If not, get rid, simple.

MounjaroOnMyMind · 12/12/2024 17:11

I couldn't be bothered trying to train a man like this. He doesn't have a clue how to communicate normally. He's picking up absolutely no signals. He's rude. He never says anything nice to you.

Give yourself a Christmas treat and dump him.

Chamomileteaplease · 12/12/2024 17:13

He has many many redeeming features (thoughtful, considerate, fun)

Doesn't sound like it.

Just tell him. See him Sunday and tell him, no apologies, no hinting. Tell him in clear language.

See if he can act normal again. Say you liked it when he was (hopefully) his true self on your first couple of dates.

Butchyrestingface · 12/12/2024 17:13

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

Why would you NOT want to demand that he's nice to you?

What's the point in dating him otherwise?

ObtuseMoose · 12/12/2024 17:16

He sounds emotionally tone-deaf, surely no one thinks constant bants and put-downs are how an entire nation communicates.
Bin him off, I can't imagine he'll improve.

krustykittens · 12/12/2024 17:24

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

What on earth is wrong with that? It's hardly an unreasonable request. Get him told, OP. Tell him he needs to rein it in as it is getting tedious and back it up with, "Enough now, can we have a proper conversation?" when he doesn't shut up, and "That's great, now trying saying something nice to me". If he can't take it on board I would be binning him, constant banter is tedious.

Alalalala · 12/12/2024 17:26

Ugh he sounds like an idiot. I’d just dump him. I suppose you could say, I don’t like the constant teasing and harshness, it’s too much.

And don’t start doubting yourself fgs. No one wants to be ripped apart for a laugh all the time or even some of the time. The occasional light teasing is fine. But he sounds like he’s taken the opportunity to be a prick to you and has run with it. Speak up.

Patienceinshortsupply · 12/12/2024 17:30

You're being far too kind towards him. He's only been here a short time, and yet he's supposedly picked up this habit thinking it's what women want?! No love, he's testing the waters to see how far he can push you - and you're letting him.

When someone shows you who they really are, it's on you if you don't want to believe them.

IdgieThreadgoodeIsMyHeroine · 12/12/2024 17:30

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

Why would it be bad to demand the person you're dating is nice to you?

Fullblowntailspin · 12/12/2024 17:32

Cubagoodeggjunior · 12/12/2024 16:41

My worry is that I sound like I’m demanding that he be nice to me (which I suppose I am, really!)

If he can’t be nice to you at this stage there’s zero hope for the relationship.

JoyDreamer86 · 12/12/2024 17:33

Be straight and honest with him before Sunday. If he doesn't understand and change then he's not for you. Please post to let us know how it goes!

Arlanymor · 12/12/2024 17:33

You should demand that he is nice to you and he shouldn't have to be told. Was he just on his best behaviour the first couple of dates and now the real him is emerging? That would seem much more likely than a cultural clash - particularly if you have ALREADY said you don't like it and yet it persists. Sorry, he sounds like a bit of a dud - singledom is better than some Larry the Lad who thinks that banter is 'just jokes babe, lighten up!'

Cardinalita90 · 12/12/2024 17:34

I dated someone this year whose default mode was sarcasm. It started off good fun but then became incredibly tiresome/ one dimensional and I found it stopped us developing any emotional intimacy. Like you I never got any compliments either! It ended things in the end as I needed someone I could be vulnerable emotionally with.

So could you try saying something like "look, I like a joke as much as the next person but it feels like we only communicate in sarcasm now and that's going to limit us. Can we just be real for a bit?" And see how he responds?

Macaroni46 · 12/12/2024 17:34

I'd send it in a text so you have time to consider what you're saying and he can't interrupt you.