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Marcus Fakana gets prison sentence in Dubai.

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Ohnonotmeagain · 11/12/2024 13:56

This is the 18 year old lad who had a holiday romance with a 17 year old girl in Dubai. She was just short of 18.

her parents found out and reported him to the Dubai authorities before he returned home.

his poor parents aren’t well off and had to return home to work leaving him there.

he’s now been sentenced to 1 year in prison.

aibu to think this poor boy should never have been brought before court.

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LoveIsLikeAFartIfYouHaveToPushItsUsuallyShit · 11/12/2024 14:51

nfk · 11/12/2024 14:50

It's not the same principle.

Because in Dubai it is an offence for her too.

Look at all the posts saying how you need to find out and respect the laws of the country that you are in? Well the laws of Dubai make it an offence for her, and so what happens in UK is irrelevant

What is a shame here, as BBC is reporting, is that there was some scope for this to have been prosecuted as a misdemeanour, but that did not happen.

And the mother who reported him is an utter bitch. If she was so concerned about this couple, who had both broken the law, then dob in both or neither.

It is not an offence for her too. What is her offence here?

BoobyDazzler · 11/12/2024 14:52

The sheer spiteful vindictiveness of the girls
mother has disgusted me. It was consensual! It takes two to tango.

What a hideous woman she must be.

crumblingschools · 11/12/2024 14:54

@LoveIsLikeAFartIfYouHaveToPushItsUsuallyShit I think we do have Romeo and Juliet laws, so as long as similar in age, consensual and no position of power then underage sex may not result in prosecution

NautilusLionfish · 11/12/2024 14:56

1WanderingWomble · 11/12/2024 14:00

I'm relieved it isn't longer. But yes it's a horrible story, I can't imagine what the girl's mum was thinking in reporting this (other than obviously being motivated by spite).

I suspect she had an idea he would be in deep trouble, and probably imprisoned and I think she did it on purpose. I would like to know who the mum is (but understand the girl needs privacy). I wonder if there are other underlying reasons why she reported him as in she felt he was beneath them or less than them. Such a spiteful thing to do. I hope he gets out early. However, we cant argue as some have done that it is not a crime in the UK so he should be jailed. It is a crime in that country. I am an immigrant here. I cant jump the red light then say its never taken seriously in my country. So sadly he did break their laws. The government didn't lift a finger to help him (lawyer says the police added so many things that changed it from a misdemeanor to something more serious). Sad really

Cloudysky81 · 11/12/2024 14:56

Another reason not to visit Dubai, hopefully with media pressure he'll be pardoned and released back to the UK.

Dubai would seem a very bad place to take a teenager on holiday.
Teenagers will always be teenagers and push boundaries/ the limits of the law without really thinking through the potential consequences. Whilst you can get away with that in the UK and most of Europe, you really can't in Dubai or most of the Gulf.

With younger children it seems like an ideal holiday destination, but I would be very stressed to take an older teen there.

VisitationRights · 11/12/2024 14:57

nfk · 11/12/2024 14:50

It's not the same principle.

Because in Dubai it is an offence for her too.

Look at all the posts saying how you need to find out and respect the laws of the country that you are in? Well the laws of Dubai make it an offence for her, and so what happens in UK is irrelevant

What is a shame here, as BBC is reporting, is that there was some scope for this to have been prosecuted as a misdemeanour, but that did not happen.

And the mother who reported him is an utter bitch. If she was so concerned about this couple, who had both broken the law, then dob in both or neither.

Does that mean that if she ever went back to Dubai she could be prosecuted? Did her vindictive mother mess her up as well?

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 14:57

Feelinadequate23 · 11/12/2024 14:50

I feel very sorry for him. What 18 year old going on holiday with their parents thoroughly researches the laws of the country they are visiting? None!

Especially agree with PP that a lot of laws in Dubai are relaxed for tourists, e.g. alcohol, so it's really not as clear cut as some people are making out.

The girl's mother is just awful and I hope the girl manages to get away from her influence and control ASAP. Also hope our diplomats can sort out an early release for him. How terrified must he be, and with his parents not even there to support him 😢

Are laws relaxed about alcohol? I remember there was a case when a tourist was arrested in Dubai after ordering alcohol on an Emirates flight. You can't hold hands in public, it is very very strict and most Westerners don't have a clue about this.

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 14:58

My eldest lives in Dubai and has done for years. I travel out there every year to see her and take my younger girls with me.

Dubai is A LOT safer than the U.K. and I’ve never ever felt vulnerable out there - unlike here and Europe. I’d consider moving out there if this country doesn’t change.

He broke the law and that’s why he is in jail. The girls mother is unbelievably spiteful

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 15:00

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 14:58

My eldest lives in Dubai and has done for years. I travel out there every year to see her and take my younger girls with me.

Dubai is A LOT safer than the U.K. and I’ve never ever felt vulnerable out there - unlike here and Europe. I’d consider moving out there if this country doesn’t change.

He broke the law and that’s why he is in jail. The girls mother is unbelievably spiteful

My goodness I would be terrified for her. Where do you live that is si hostile in the UK.

JohnSt1 · 11/12/2024 15:01

It's the same place a woman was arrested after reporting that she was raped. Women who report domestic abuse are sometimes arrested.

It's a dangerous place to visit. It's all well and good if you don't find yourself locked up.

I went there before it became a tourist magnet, and I now feel that I shouldn't have. It is a very cruel regime, that treats certain "classes" of immigrant workers as sub-human.

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 15:01

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 14:57

Are laws relaxed about alcohol? I remember there was a case when a tourist was arrested in Dubai after ordering alcohol on an Emirates flight. You can't hold hands in public, it is very very strict and most Westerners don't have a clue about this.

You can drink in hotels and at bars. There is a big party scene - even ladies nights where women drink for free. But drunken louts will not be tolerated in the streets. You will get absolutely fucked if you have ANY kind of drug on you.

You can hold hands in public - you can even walk round in a bikini by the pool or beach.

LoveIsLikeAFartIfYouHaveToPushItsUsuallyShit · 11/12/2024 15:02

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 15:01

You can drink in hotels and at bars. There is a big party scene - even ladies nights where women drink for free. But drunken louts will not be tolerated in the streets. You will get absolutely fucked if you have ANY kind of drug on you.

You can hold hands in public - you can even walk round in a bikini by the pool or beach.

Yes. Except Sharjah. Dry

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 15:03

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 15:00

My goodness I would be terrified for her. Where do you live that is si hostile in the UK.

I’m actually very lucky that I live semi rurally. But if I travel in to the town or the city it’s not safe - or it feels unsafe. The North West

Feelinadequate23 · 11/12/2024 15:04

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 14:57

Are laws relaxed about alcohol? I remember there was a case when a tourist was arrested in Dubai after ordering alcohol on an Emirates flight. You can't hold hands in public, it is very very strict and most Westerners don't have a clue about this.

yes, you can drink in all tourist hotels and restaurants

Soonenough · 11/12/2024 15:04

I think it was terrible of the girl's mother to report this to the Dubai police . She can't have been unaware of the serious consequences for him in that country. Yes he should have been cautioned maybe juvenile prison here . But a teenager , alone in a foreign country jail with such a bad reputation for human rights is just so wrong . For having a holiday romance? Not coercive and consenting .

vibratosprigato · 11/12/2024 15:04

Do we know anything about the context of this mother's disclosure? I haven't read anything about it. It seems that people are quick to jump to the conclusion that it was malicious or spiteful yet she might be privy to information which is not being reported on.

We all make mistakes, especially as teenagers. Luckily most of them are minor and don't land us in prison. Sometimes they do. It's a harsh sentence but it's their law.

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 15:06

Ludovico · 11/12/2024 15:01

You can drink in hotels and at bars. There is a big party scene - even ladies nights where women drink for free. But drunken louts will not be tolerated in the streets. You will get absolutely fucked if you have ANY kind of drug on you.

You can hold hands in public - you can even walk round in a bikini by the pool or beach.

You absolutely can't hold hands in public, not according to UK Foreign Office, why would you spout falsehoods, very irresponsible of you.

The drinking is very very ambiguous and I personally wouldn't gamble my freedom on a drink like the person who got arrested on the Emirates flight.

Jostuki · 11/12/2024 15:06

He broke the law. His parents should have drummed it in to him what the laws are like out there and as he was 18 it should have been on his mind to research before going on holiday.

meganorks · 11/12/2024 15:07

The most disgusting part of this are the parents of the girl. She had a consensual relationship with a guy of a similar age that would be perfectly legal in the UK. Yet they decided to report him to the Dubai authorities knowing he could end up in jail. I hope karma comes from them.

YIP · 11/12/2024 15:07

The poor boy and his family. She was 17, nearly 18 and he was 18. Different if he was 30 perhaps.

If they’d been at home would they have called the police? Course not, because they’d get told off for wasting police time.

Fancy reporting him, what did they gain from that? Awful.

FeegleFrenzy · 11/12/2024 15:08

Lincoln24 · 11/12/2024 14:47

The equivalent situation would be a 16 year old tourist having consensual sex with a 15 year old tourist. You're living on another planet if you think the authorities here would be remotely interested in that scenario.

I hope the mother who reported this poor boy is feeling pleased with herself.

Nope, the equivalent situation would be a 15yo tourist having sex with a 15yo tourist. Both of these two were 17yo at the time.

Goldenbear · 11/12/2024 15:08

Feelinadequate23 · 11/12/2024 15:04

yes, you can drink in all tourist hotels and restaurants

Yes but the fact that is so specific i.e had an alcoholic drink in a different context like on an aeroplane and then get jailed - no thank you, that is absurd and completely illogical.

Chroomy · 11/12/2024 15:09

The daughter should be expedited to serve the same sentence.

Birmingbacon · 11/12/2024 15:10

TickingAlongNicely · 11/12/2024 14:04

On one hand, it seems ridiculous.

On the other hand... if a foreigner had committed a crime against a woman in the UK, that wasn't a crime in their home country, there would be outcry if he was just deported.

So we can't have it both ways.

Completely agree with this.

devastating for the boy and the family. Of course it is. But that’s THE LAW in the country he visited.

I wish the UK was as forceful with insisting our own customs and laws were followed here.

FeegleFrenzy · 11/12/2024 15:10

What happens if 2 married 17yo uk nationals go on their honeymoon to Dubai? I assume both imprisoned if it was thought they’d had sex?