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Aibu to think the Middle Class have a much nicer Christmas from the run up to the event itself?

159 replies

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:10

Just from observing friends & family. The more mc ones seem to have a fabulous, jam packed festive period with lovely events scheduled & nice traditions. Aibu in my thinking?

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Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 10:12

What's middle class got to do with it?

HPandthelastwish · 11/12/2024 10:13

People who want to do events will find a way regardless of class. You don't need money to make Christmas magical, it's a frame of mind, attitude and realistic expectations.

If you are MC and run ragged at work, run ragged at home ferrying children about, generally stressed so become a bit shouty or preoccupied with making 'perfect memories' rather than actually enjoying the time then no their Christmas isn't going to be better.

You can equally be working class, walk around the streets looking at the lights instead of ££££ light trails, hot chocolate in a flask on a brisk beach walk instead of £5 from Starbucks with fancy flavourings, Christingle service at a local church, am dram panto at a local theatre and still have a lovely time.

Uokhunnnn · 11/12/2024 10:14

Money obviously makes it easier but I don’t think class really comes into it otherwise - it’s the happiest families who have the best Christmases IME.

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:15

Needmorelego · 11/12/2024 10:12

What's middle class got to do with it?

It's just from observation that I've concluded the MC make the very most of the Christmas season

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Donotpanicoknowpanic · 11/12/2024 10:15

Money always helps which makes it middle class

For a lot of working class Christmas is expensive as it is and even if traditions only cost a bit of money they all add up

Especially if it involves things like seeing a light show or Christmas meals at restaurants

It all soon adds up

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:20

It's the things like the family wreath making 120 quid for a family of 4... the Nutcracker in London wildly expensive etc..

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30percent · 11/12/2024 10:20

When will these threads end 😂 half of you can't even define the difference between middle /working /upper class.
Like what is the point in these threads? To feel sorry for the peasants ? I once saw someone say on one of these threads that if only the poor people started taking their children to the Oprah or theater they might become more cultured and earn more money. And loads of people agreed with them.
Like come on go outside and touch grass none of this matters

Seeline · 11/12/2024 10:24

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:20

It's the things like the family wreath making 120 quid for a family of 4... the Nutcracker in London wildly expensive etc..

One of my happiest memories as a child was going to the local woods as a family and collecting holly, ivy and yew to decorate the house. We made wreaths, arrangements in vases and liberally scattered pieces of greenery over pictures, along window sills etc.
Technically we were probably middle class, but had no money at all! Didn't need an expensive workshop.

Sdpbody · 11/12/2024 10:24

So people with more money, have more money to spend on things that are fun... Shocking!

OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 10:27

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:20

It's the things like the family wreath making 120 quid for a family of 4... the Nutcracker in London wildly expensive etc..

That’s having available money, not social class. Nothing stopping an affluent working-class family going to The Nutcracker or wreath-making.

We have plenty of money and the only Christmas-related things we’ve done so far have been free.

Jellie00 · 11/12/2024 10:29

Isn't this the same as everything in life? People who have money do the things they want to, people who don't have money unfortunately can't.

Anonym00se · 11/12/2024 10:31

I think WC people are often more likely to still be working over Christmas.

Sdpbody · 11/12/2024 10:31

But they are far less likely to do it @OnlySlightly

There is still a big difference in "culture capital" between working class people with money and middle class people with money.

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:33

Sdpbody · 11/12/2024 10:31

But they are far less likely to do it @OnlySlightly

There is still a big difference in "culture capital" between working class people with money and middle class people with money.

I think Christmas really highlights this. I agree with you.

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pizzaHeart · 11/12/2024 10:35

Donotpanicoknowpanic · 11/12/2024 10:15

Money always helps which makes it middle class

For a lot of working class Christmas is expensive as it is and even if traditions only cost a bit of money they all add up

Especially if it involves things like seeing a light show or Christmas meals at restaurants

It all soon adds up

This^
of course you are not unreasonable. Yes, you can have great time with a bit of money but much better time with more money and much less great time without money.

WinterFollies · 11/12/2024 10:36

HPandthelastwish · 11/12/2024 10:13

People who want to do events will find a way regardless of class. You don't need money to make Christmas magical, it's a frame of mind, attitude and realistic expectations.

If you are MC and run ragged at work, run ragged at home ferrying children about, generally stressed so become a bit shouty or preoccupied with making 'perfect memories' rather than actually enjoying the time then no their Christmas isn't going to be better.

You can equally be working class, walk around the streets looking at the lights instead of ££££ light trails, hot chocolate in a flask on a brisk beach walk instead of £5 from Starbucks with fancy flavourings, Christingle service at a local church, am dram panto at a local theatre and still have a lovely time.

Edited

Why are you assuming WC = poor?

OnlySlightly · 11/12/2024 10:37

Sdpbody · 11/12/2024 10:31

But they are far less likely to do it @OnlySlightly

There is still a big difference in "culture capital" between working class people with money and middle class people with money.

I’m a working class person with money myself, and an opera-lover, so I’m all about widening participation in things traditionally considered ‘not for the likes of us’, but ‘family wreath-making’ doesn’t involve any cultural capital at all. It has no aura of exclusiveness, no perceived need for pre-knowledge, no dress code etc.

DappledThings · 11/12/2024 10:38

I'm solidly middle-class. Don't have anything like a jam-packed schedule or anything pre-Christmas other than Advent calendars.

We are doing a light trail but that's actually for DD's birthday and we probably wouldn't do it just for Christmas.

30percent · 11/12/2024 10:40

Sdpbody · 11/12/2024 10:24

So people with more money, have more money to spend on things that are fun... Shocking!

I've noticed these threads go deeper than that, a person working an office job on minimum wage is middle class and a tradesmen could earn twice as much. Posters claim it's the mindset or something middle class take their kids to the Oprah and theater so therefore they're more cultured and better.
Weird thing is these threads always have people saying the most snobby stuff but disguising it as feeling sorry for people.

Like just enjoy the Christmas month damn

Betsybee88 · 11/12/2024 10:42

I am no where near middle class and we have lovely run up traditions, a lot are completely free or for a small donation either put on by the local church, library or council.

We have a light parade for example via the church where one week the children design and make lanterns to carry through the street and a few weeks later they walk the streets with said lanterns.

Christmas carol concerts again via the church.

We are not a church going family but this is put on for all of the community.

Many smaller theatres will put on pantomimes for families for less than £20 for a family of 4.

Happyinarcon · 11/12/2024 10:46

The best Christmases I ever had involved a worn out tree, a pile of cheap tinsel, homemade mince pies and a boozy night at the pub. Probably with the snowman cartoon as well

2025istheyear · 11/12/2024 10:47

Mincepiesorpigsinblankets · 11/12/2024 10:20

It's the things like the family wreath making 120 quid for a family of 4... the Nutcracker in London wildly expensive etc..

Kill me now if I ever had to endure either of these things!

I did enjoy chopping down a big holly bush and loads of overgrown trees at my elderly parents. We all kept saying oh these would make a lovely wreath for another family🤣

Printedword · 11/12/2024 10:48

Going out to events and entertaining - my Christmas from hell. It’s nothing to do with class. People like different things. Everything from pj and movie style Christmas to entertaining implausible numbers of people over several weeks.

Jumell · 11/12/2024 10:50

The real message of Xmas is -

Hope

Hope is free

RaininSummer · 11/12/2024 10:53

It's mainly money and time not 'class'.