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BBC have deboomerised me.

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Thegoatliesdownonbroadway · 06/12/2024 19:17

I thought boomers were up to 1964, BBC news had an article about "Alphas". In which boomers were designated as born between 1940 and 1960, so I am an "X" now. Given the resentments that exist towards "Boomers", maybe it is for the best.

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WhatUSeeIsWhatUGet · 07/12/2024 09:01

Ohh, but you're of the same year as Kurt Cobain, of course you're X 😎
As a midwit millennial, I salute you 🙌

RayonSunrise · 07/12/2024 09:02

Hang on, Boomers being "the rich generation" is quite a recent idea. The baby boom was the post-war population explosion, and it was originally a demographic thing - a huge group whose postwar likes and interests in the age of peace and prosperity were SO different than what had come before (the rise of the "teenager," rock and roll, etc). This idea that Boomer = rich privileged bastard is quite a distortion.

Lots of Boomers aren't rich. My parents aren't, and they raised their family during the Cold War and the waves of outsourcing, offshoring and automation that completely transformed heavy industry. My dad often spoke of being glad he was a skilled tradesman, because the unskilled workers lost their jobs to automation and offshoring and they struggled to find anything else.

My children are GenZ and even they have started to notice that all the generations seem to have their own hardship stories, it's just it's easier to have a go at old people who aren't online in a big enough block to set the agenda.

JeremiahBullfrog · 07/12/2024 09:05

Because it's all made-up bollocks. Something didn't magically happen in 1964 or whenever to make babies grow up different.

(Admittedly the postwar period was a time of particularly rapid social change, so the distinctions are perhaps a bit more meaningful than later in the century. But at best this sort of thing is useful for describing general trends, and the discrete cutoffs imposed on what is really very much a continuum are unhelpful.)

Sharptonguedwoman · 07/12/2024 09:07

I used to teach a subject that covered a lot of demography, such as the Post War Baby Boom. The baby boom was always 1947 to 1964 ish. I think the terms 'Silent Generation/Millennial/Generation alpha and so on are either adopted American or relatively recent in origin.
1947-64 on BBC Bitesize.

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:08

RayonSunrise · 07/12/2024 09:02

Hang on, Boomers being "the rich generation" is quite a recent idea. The baby boom was the post-war population explosion, and it was originally a demographic thing - a huge group whose postwar likes and interests in the age of peace and prosperity were SO different than what had come before (the rise of the "teenager," rock and roll, etc). This idea that Boomer = rich privileged bastard is quite a distortion.

Lots of Boomers aren't rich. My parents aren't, and they raised their family during the Cold War and the waves of outsourcing, offshoring and automation that completely transformed heavy industry. My dad often spoke of being glad he was a skilled tradesman, because the unskilled workers lost their jobs to automation and offshoring and they struggled to find anything else.

My children are GenZ and even they have started to notice that all the generations seem to have their own hardship stories, it's just it's easier to have a go at old people who aren't online in a big enough block to set the agenda.

I think Boomer bashing is jealousy

i definitely share their taste in music -

Barron Knights, anyone?!

Moonlightstars · 07/12/2024 09:24

BeccaS34 · 07/12/2024 03:20

Boomer always struck me as an Americanism. The UK had a much less prosperous time right after the war and more clean up to do.

I think it was down to the boom of number of babies born after the war rather than prosperity.

BogRollBOGOF · 07/12/2024 09:25

Xennial makes more sense for me. I was an adult in the 20th century.

I was so peeved to have a mobile phone foisted on me in 1998 so DM could keep tabs on me. It could store 8 SMS messages. Social arrangements were still very much "meet me by the statue at 7:30" because calls were expensive and SMSs could often lag. I didn't live with the internet until 2003. I began using it reguarly at school/ uni from 1997 but had to use libraries/ computer rooms/ internet cafes until then.

My music taste is more Gen X as I had an older sibling and a long memory so was exposed to their musical exploration. Plus parental music tastes. I've already outgrown Radio 2 even though I'm allegedly their target audience.

My friendships are very much late 70s- early 80s with a lot of friends securely in the Gen X band. DH is very securely Gen X, and we have a Gen X typical financial positioning. I just missed out on university grants, but the newly introduced tution fees were low. I had a bursary for my post-graduate course. My student houses were like being in The Young Ones.

I did the older style 3 A-levels before the AS/A2 split (A-level and university studies were still very much book/ journal based with limited supplimenting of online information). Y9 SATs in their limited window before they were dropped, but no y6 SATs. Y6 was an interesting school year! The National Curriculum and Key Stages had just come in and there was rearranging of school structures around that.

It was very much an analogue childhood, and while there was computing through my teens, it was niche and didn't integrate with social interactions until phones became more sophisticated in my adulthood.

The 90s/ early 2000s was such an optomistic era for teenagehood and enjoying the independence of young adulthood. It was fun and creative. You could afford to enjoy it, and there was no fear of unbridled fun appearing on social media and coming back to bite you.

A few weeks on a calendar does not a Millenial make!
Gen Xen, the best of analogue and digital.

Magpiecomplex · 07/12/2024 09:27

I'm like @RayonSunrise, technically too old to be an Xennial but I fit the definition. I learnt to code at the age of 11.

JohnTheRevelator · 07/12/2024 09:33

I've always considered myself to be one of the younger Boomers (October 1963). And I'm staying one! The BBC are not going to deboomer me!

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:34

JohnTheRevelator · 07/12/2024 09:33

I've always considered myself to be one of the younger Boomers (October 1963). And I'm staying one! The BBC are not going to deboomer me!

‘Deboomerize’ sounds such a fun verb !

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 09:40

I don’t know why the term Generation Jones isn’t used more often. This includes those born from 1955 to 1967 and better describes those of the late boomer cohort who had the rug pulled sharply from under their feet.

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:44

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 09:40

I don’t know why the term Generation Jones isn’t used more often. This includes those born from 1955 to 1967 and better describes those of the late boomer cohort who had the rug pulled sharply from under their feet.

In what way was the rug pulled sharply ?

to me 1967 are firmly gen x

BeatrizBoniface · 07/12/2024 09:48

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:34

‘Deboomerize’ sounds such a fun verb !

I may have a T-shirt made.

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:49

BeatrizBoniface · 07/12/2024 09:48

I may have a T-shirt made.

Great call 🤣

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 09:58

Jumell · 07/12/2024 09:44

In what way was the rug pulled sharply ?

to me 1967 are firmly gen x

Final salary pensions pulled, pension age for women pushed back, high mortgage interest rates, negative equity - that sort of thing. I’m not denying we had benefits which those following did not have e.g. free university education, but we were born just a little bit too late to benefit to the same extent as those born a little bit earlier.

I’m not complaining by the way 😁. Generally, I think that plonking individuals into broad categories is pretty meaningless.

AlbertCamusflage · 07/12/2024 10:05

If you are in the cohort that gets deboomerised and then reboomerised, are you a Boomeranger?

Jumell · 07/12/2024 10:07

AlbertCamusflage · 07/12/2024 10:05

If you are in the cohort that gets deboomerised and then reboomerised, are you a Boomeranger?

🤣

im Gen X !

any chance of me being X orcised ?

Jumell · 07/12/2024 10:09

My honest opinion is that I think a lot of Boomers really did luck out in buying houses

but I don’t begrudge them any of it - am pleased for them

they’ve worked hard for it

daliesque · 07/12/2024 10:17

MrsTerryPratchett · 07/12/2024 00:02

First rule of GenX, don't talk about GenX.

Everyone ignores us, we don't care.

Exactly this.

But we are coolest.

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 10:18

Jumell · 07/12/2024 10:09

My honest opinion is that I think a lot of Boomers really did luck out in buying houses

but I don’t begrudge them any of it - am pleased for them

they’ve worked hard for it

it was never easy to buy a house, but I agree that it has become much harder. DH and I have young adult kids, two of which are still living at home because of the ridiculous price of housing in the south east. It doesn’t benefit anybody really, as we need to die to release the equity to our kids!

BIossomtoes · 07/12/2024 10:19

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 09:58

Final salary pensions pulled, pension age for women pushed back, high mortgage interest rates, negative equity - that sort of thing. I’m not denying we had benefits which those following did not have e.g. free university education, but we were born just a little bit too late to benefit to the same extent as those born a little bit earlier.

I’m not complaining by the way 😁. Generally, I think that plonking individuals into broad categories is pretty meaningless.

I was born in 1953 and all those “rug pulling” things happened to me too.

LittleBearPad · 07/12/2024 10:29

smooththecat · 06/12/2024 23:23

Millennial is 1980+ that’s why we have geriatric millennials now

44 year olds aren’t geriatric. We may feel old at times but give us a break!

5foot5 · 07/12/2024 10:31

TammyJones · 07/12/2024 01:01

This is me lol
I'm on the cus thought
Definitely more Gen x than boomer - can find my way round a computer.

Excuse me! I am a late boomer (born 1962) and I had my whole career in the computer industry so I think I can find my way round a computer.

As can DH and my elder sisters actually and they were all born in the 1950s.

ErrolTheDragon · 07/12/2024 10:33

44 year olds aren’t geriatric. We may feel old at times but give us a break!
Well, unless you're having a baby. 'Geriatric primagravida' is a phrase which shouldn't exist except maybe re John the Baptist's mother.😂

Jumell · 07/12/2024 10:34

Jabberwokie · 07/12/2024 09:58

Final salary pensions pulled, pension age for women pushed back, high mortgage interest rates, negative equity - that sort of thing. I’m not denying we had benefits which those following did not have e.g. free university education, but we were born just a little bit too late to benefit to the same extent as those born a little bit earlier.

I’m not complaining by the way 😁. Generally, I think that plonking individuals into broad categories is pretty meaningless.

Mah ok thanks for exposing I see exactly what you mean

pensions were more generous for those born in earlier decades - 30s etc

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