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Male police officers intimately searching female suspects is state sanctioned sexual assault. (British Transport Police)

27 replies

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 15:17

Male police officers can strip-search women under new guidance issued by the British Transport Police (BTP)

The guidance, allows male staff to intimately search women so long as they have a gender recognition certificate (GRC).

https://archive.ph/iwvtW
(link to Telegraph article)

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Breatheincalmbreatheouttension · 04/12/2024 15:18

Horrendous.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/12/2024 15:23

This is disgraceful. Males with the legal fiction that is the Gender Recognition Certificate are still biological males. They may be 'legally' female but this should not give the right to do roles reserved for women.

Hopefully the FWS case at the Supreme Court will put paid to this nonsense.

In any event British Transport Police is in the wrong. The Equality Act allows people with a GRC to be excluded from sex specific roles. They are choosing to ignore this exemption to favour the males.

So we should all email the BTS to ask why it is they think it is appropriate for women to be strip searched by biological males?

It's almost like they hate women.

Georgyporky · 04/12/2024 15:23

Make that Genitalia Removed Certificate.

username299 · 04/12/2024 15:23

It's obviously opening a door to sexual assault and unsafe conditions for women.

Everyone should write to their MP.

lifeturnsonadime · 04/12/2024 15:24

Georgyporky · 04/12/2024 15:23

Make that Genitalia Removed Certificate.

There is no such requirement.

Huffalumps · 04/12/2024 15:26

That is why GRCs needs to go. There should never be such a thing as legally female. There is your sex (two possibilities) full stop. But then that situation risks welcoming in self-id....🙄🙄. Can I get off this time line yet?

WallaceinAnderland · 04/12/2024 15:29

Georgyporky · 04/12/2024 15:23

Make that Genitalia Removed Certificate.

Why? All a man needs to do is change his name on his electric bill from Stephan to Stephanie.

I'm not joking. That is enough to get your sex marker on your passport changed to female.

Georgyporky · 04/12/2024 15:34

Duh! I was suggesting that genitalia be removed before granting female status.

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 15:39

Who the hell has voted that my statement is unreasonable? And why FFS?

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/12/2024 15:39

Georgyporky · 04/12/2024 15:34

Duh! I was suggesting that genitalia be removed before granting female status.

A male with no penis is still male.

No male should be granted female status because they can never BE female, no matter how much body modification surgery they go through!

lifeturnsonadime · 04/12/2024 15:40

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 15:39

Who the hell has voted that my statement is unreasonable? And why FFS?

Because some people really do believe that Males should have the right to do and be whatever they wish.

And, shockingly, they think that this is progressive.

Whereas in reality it is doing the patriarchy's job under a new guise.

FranticFrankie · 04/12/2024 15:44

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 15:39

Who the hell has voted that my statement is unreasonable? And why FFS?

male lurkers.
probably.

NoNotTodayThanks · 04/12/2024 15:55

What the hell makes them think this is ok? It's absolutely appalling and I'm so sick of this crap.

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 16:33

NoNotTodayThanks · 04/12/2024 15:55

What the hell makes them think this is ok? It's absolutely appalling and I'm so sick of this crap.

I think it's the complete lack of anyone they respect speaking out about it. No left celebrities, no singers, no media chanels - nothing

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MrBungle · 04/12/2024 16:34

username299 · 04/12/2024 15:23

It's obviously opening a door to sexual assault and unsafe conditions for women.

Everyone should write to their MP.

Everyone should, nobody does

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username299 · 04/12/2024 16:36

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 16:34

Everyone should, nobody does

Here you go everyone.

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 17:10

Also depends on your MP, some of us have Greens!

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newtlover · 04/12/2024 17:14

even more worth it if your MP is Green, they need to know its a vote loser

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 18:35

newtlover · 04/12/2024 17:14

even more worth it if your MP is Green, they need to know its a vote loser

Even the greens have discord in their ranks it’s true

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MrBungle · 04/12/2024 18:36

How do 17% of voters think it’s ok for a man to put his hand in a woman’s pants exactly?

anyone care to explain?

anyone really think it’s impossible to get a job as a police officer just to assault women?

transcrimeuk.com

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lifeturnsonadime · 04/12/2024 18:38

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 18:36

How do 17% of voters think it’s ok for a man to put his hand in a woman’s pants exactly?

anyone care to explain?

anyone really think it’s impossible to get a job as a police officer just to assault women?

transcrimeuk.com

Edited

Could be a class issue?

Some women don't care if suspected criminals are strip searched by males?

I reckon they'd care if it impacted them. That's why so many of the likes of Kirsty Alsopp are such hypocrites, they're not impacted by things so they turn a blind eye to it.

Fabulouslyunfabulous · 04/12/2024 18:45

I wonder if perhaps people are confused on the voting? Could be read
YANBU men should not be allowed to pretend to be women in order to assault women.

You (the article)ABU this shouldn’t be allowed to happen.

newtlover · 04/12/2024 19:43

yes I do think its a class issue
how many of the handmaidens think they're likely to end up in a prison, or a refuge
and if they need counselling after SA they can buy it
traitors really

MrBungle · 04/12/2024 21:38

newtlover · 04/12/2024 19:43

yes I do think its a class issue
how many of the handmaidens think they're likely to end up in a prison, or a refuge
and if they need counselling after SA they can buy it
traitors really

True story.

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MrBungle · 05/12/2024 11:55

username299 · 04/12/2024 15:23

It's obviously opening a door to sexual assault and unsafe conditions for women.

Everyone should write to their MP.

It's as if people don;t think that predators get jobs in places where they can abuse without being caught right?

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