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Should everyone be forced to show they aren’t able to rescue a dog before they can buy a puppy?

332 replies

Coffeealwayshot · 01/12/2024 19:54

Just that really

I see my local shelter is full again and saying they will need to euthanise if they can’t find homes.

Everyone I know (bar 2 or 3) who has a dog has bought from a breeder.

Im not rude enough to ask people if they considered a rescue. I know some say they were turned down but some that they just wanted a puppy or a specific breed.

So my question is as above?
I get we can’t say no breeding at all but should taking on a rescue be the only option for those who are suitable and reduce the breeding to just cater for those who can’t have a rescue dog?

OP posts:
SunQueen24 · 02/12/2024 07:44

Killingoffmyflowersonebyone · 02/12/2024 07:39

A a husky owner who can’t keep up with them. What a surprise. Now all your posts make sense.

A husky owner who has also fostered and rescued dogs from the pound to rehome them, all of which I keep in touch with. Husky owner who took dogs who hadn’t seen the light of day and helped rehabilitate them….

pinkstripeycat · 02/12/2024 07:45

We’ve been looking for a rescue for months. We already have a dog and a cat. We are home all day so can give time and patience for any size or breed. Mostly rehomes can’t be with cats or need to be the only dog in the home. I’d say lots of people who want to take a rehome are probably experienced dog owners who maybe have a dog already.

GinForBreakfast · 02/12/2024 07:47

How about some kind of puppy version of carbon offsetting. For every puppy bred for sale the costs of re-homing a rescue dog are covered?

(Semi serious)

SD1978 · 02/12/2024 07:48

Not enforceable- and so many shelters/ rehoming groups have ridiculous rules which rule out many families, so basically perpetuate the issue.

SunQueen24 · 02/12/2024 07:49

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone you are a perfect example of somebody incapable of listening before drawing drawing a conclusion which is exactly what I was talking about on my first post.

So rather than look objectively you’ve already decided a dog is better off dead.

Leonberger · 02/12/2024 07:49

wastingtimeonhere · 02/12/2024 07:13

We had an idea of the breeds involved and looked at traits, needs and potential pitfalls. DNA shows all the breeds mentioned at rescue. What I mean by picky, is if you want pure breed rough collie for example, you will be waiting a while, collie cross, more likely.
I have absolutely no regrets. We have had, over 35 years, 4 wonderful dogs, 3 'crosses', 1 pure breed.

Oh I’m not trying to say rescue dogs are bad. The best rescue dog I ever had was a rescue collie.

However, people blinding going into a rescue asking for a puppy assuming that they can make it into anything they want isn’t the way forward. The amount of behaviour issues I deal with where people say but I’ve had him from a baby is astonishing. Yes, but you can’t erase hundreds of years of humans shaping him to do a specific job, now he wants to do it and your shocked.

Hence, buy a puppy that wants to do what you want it to do! Make life easier for yourself and youll be less likely to give it up. If your out all day and at kids activities all weekend, get a cat. We need to break the cycle.

justasking111 · 02/12/2024 07:55

Gave up trying to adopt because we already had a dog and a cat. Children too.

wastingtimeonhere · 02/12/2024 07:55

Yep, the type of people blindly getting a puppy from breeders is probably greater. The huge numbers in shelters predominantly come from owners getting dogs they can't look after. A much smaller number are from people who pass away etc.

andydidnt · 02/12/2024 07:59

Nolegusta · 01/12/2024 20:07

Also, and this is probably unpopular, but euthanasia isn't a cruel process in terms of how it's carried out, and might actually be a kinder option for some dogs, instead a potential unhapoy lifetime in kennels. Some dogs are just not re-homeable.

I agree I had my beautiful boy put to sleep a month ago. It was a peaceful, calm death.

PointsSouth · 02/12/2024 08:00

I don’t think it’s a good idea to compel people to take a dog that they don’t really want, however laudable your motives for doing so.

You may say, ‘Well, if they can’t find a dog they love at a rescue, then they should consider whether they really want a dog at all.’

And you may be right. But most won’t consider that until they’ve had the dog awhile. And when they return it to the rescue, they’ll say, with some justification, ‘You made us take him. This was never the dog we wanted.’

And then they’ll go and get one from a breeder.

Of course, some will love the rescue dog, so the overall number of breeder sales might drop. But the number of rescue re-admissions would rise.

Also, how will you enforce it? When people go to a breeder, will they have present letters from all rescues within fifty miles of where they live? If they don’t, who’s breaking the law - the breeder? The buyer?

I think your concern is reasonable, but your proposition is unreasonable.

Aberentian · 02/12/2024 08:01

Yes this is definitely what the state should be spending money on.
FFS.

SunQueen24 · 02/12/2024 08:02

andydidnt · 02/12/2024 07:59

I agree I had my beautiful boy put to sleep a month ago. It was a peaceful, calm death.

Agree. Dogs spending years of a relatively short life in an outdoor kennel with just minutes each day of exercise and interaction is no life.

AloneLike · 02/12/2024 08:02

Rescue dogs that can live with cats are rare - rarer than those that can live with children. A puppy of a suitable breed (one without a strong prey drive/chase instinct) can easily be trained to live with cats - the cats will help by putting it firmly in its place while it's young enough to accept this,

Aberentian · 02/12/2024 08:02

(My dog is a rescue btw. I still think this post is stupid.)

andydidnt · 02/12/2024 08:07

Stretchedresources · 02/12/2024 07:37

Looking at the available dogs at Battersea, there are a lot who are potentially unsuitable / risky. Who is going to re-home an American bulldog / cane corso / lurcher of unknown origin.

Are you suggesting a lurcher is a dangerous breed?

Nolegusta · 02/12/2024 08:08

andydidnt · 02/12/2024 07:59

I agree I had my beautiful boy put to sleep a month ago. It was a peaceful, calm death.

Sorry for your loss. 💐

Nolegusta · 02/12/2024 08:09

andydidnt · 02/12/2024 08:07

Are you suggesting a lurcher is a dangerous breed?

Any breed can be dangerous, especially if it's had a hard life.

Moonlightstars · 02/12/2024 08:12

sequin2000 · 01/12/2024 20:02

Should anyone trying for a baby also be asked to explain why they won't adopt?

I mean thats not even equal. It's not like you are genetically connected to a bred dog or were pregnant with them.

Coffeealwayshot · 02/12/2024 08:13

sashh · 02/12/2024 05:36

I think we should bring back dog licences but they should be more expensive and priced according to the breed and whether they are 'done'.

A rescue dog could be given a lower category or a discount.

Working dogs could also get a different category.

So a rescue lab that is neutered might have a licence charge of £50 a year. A lab that is a trained guide dog might be £0 a year and a show lab puppy that is going to used to breed would be £200 a year.

Numbers picked at almost random.

This sounds good

OP posts:
Aberentian · 02/12/2024 08:15

@Killingoffmyflowersonebyone

And that’s what responsible pet ownership is - making your dog happy. Not ‘fine.’ Not ‘managing’ but happy.

Sigh. Most humans do not have this. Sometimes fine is fine.

twistandshoutloud · 02/12/2024 08:15

BIossomtoes · 01/12/2024 19:58

You obviously haven’t seen how picky rescue charities are about who’s permitted to adopt a dog.

Exactly! We were on a waiting list for a year, we had no kids either at the time so should’ve been easier to get a rescue.

At the end they didn’t let us rescue any dog because we both worked full time.

After a year we went to a breeder.

Nolegusta · 02/12/2024 08:17

Moonlightstars · 02/12/2024 08:12

I mean thats not even equal. It's not like you are genetically connected to a bred dog or were pregnant with them.

It's about trying to exert control over a person so they take responsibility gor someone else's (sometimes poor) choices. It us a step but the link is there.

Aberentian · 02/12/2024 08:17

@sashh do you really think it plausible that that would be effectively administrated and enforced in this country? Seems desperately naive to me.

Abi86 · 02/12/2024 08:20

I agree with your proposition OP. The large majority of objections on here are just poorly veiled excuses. Of course there’ll be exceptions.

Barney16 · 02/12/2024 08:25

I want a dog and will probably get a puppy so I know it's complete history. I read the entries for rescue dogs and most of them are unsuitable for an average family home ( and I have had a dog previously). It's very sad that many dogs are unwanted but if you take a dog on you really don't know how it has been treated in the past and how it will react in particular situations. That's quite risky.