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To feel hurt and mistreated by my mother

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JasmineCaru · 27/11/2024 20:25

I'm having some issues with my mum currently and really unsure which way to go with this. For context, I'm the middle of 3. I have an older sister and a younger brother. We are all well into adulthood. I have a husband and 2 small children, one of which i'm on maternity leave with and still breastfeeding. I live a 50 min drive from my home town. My sister lives 15 min drive from my mum, and my single brother, roughly 10 mins from her. My sister and husband have 3 children who are much older than mine.

Towards the end of my most recent pregnancy, I was so happy that my mum excitedly mentioned that she could come visit each week to see us and also support me with my newborn and small child. She talked about how she could look after baby so I could still take my daughter swimming to spend some one on one time with her etc etc. It sounded great and it stuck in my head that i'd have a day a week with the kids grandma and they'd develop their bonds. She's retired and allocates a day a week to see my brother, a day for my sister and a day to pick up her eldest grandchild from school, so not unthinkable that my family may get a day of her time too. This didn't materialise. She visited or I would take the kids to see her (I'm more than happy to go to her, it's actually easier to get out of our house sometimes!) every 2-3 weeks in the beginning, and then it trailed off further and transpired the day she'd allocated to us was also the day of one of her fortnightly clubs. Recently she's only been available every 6-8 weeks. She's retired, she's social, she's living her life, I totally get that side. When struggling to find a day to meet, I asked a few weeks ago if there was another day of the week that she has more availability on (totally not expecting a weekly thing), she ignored this and said she would move our conversation to the group chat we have with my sister. Since then she has only messaged me via that group chat, which I've found really upsetting, because why? Why does she need my sisters presence to communicate with me? It's not like she's messaged my sister in that chat recently, just me. It's very odd and triggering of some previous events throughout my life.

Today I bravely asked, after she messaged again on there asking something about the children, if she only messaged my sister on there too. I knew it was provocative and my intention was to draw her attention to the difference in the way she treats us. My sister gets direct personal communication and weekly visits for her and her family, I get impersonal group communication and scraps of her time. My sister barked back saying i'd upset mum by the comment and did it really matter how mum contacts me? But to me, it does matter, and it has upset me for weeks.

Going back a little bit, my first child was born in a lockdown where it was permitted for families with a baby to bubble with another household. I used to have a weekly call with my mum throughout pregnancy and lockdowns. After I gave birth, that stopped and she barely got in touch, almost radio silence. I got a call from her when my daughter was 5 weeks old to say that my sister wanted to visit us so my mum would come too. She said it almost exactly like that. I just felt that was really heartless and I cried for days about that (also postpartum hormones contributed), but ultimately I accepted it because as a middle child, you accept any attention you can get. In contrast, when my sister had her first child my mum was present in the hospital, and even supported feeding baby through the first night they were home. Just polar opposite experiences from a mum who has always denied treating us differently.

I rarely get invited to my mum's for Christmas, she usually spends it with my sister's family. Last year was a bit of a blow because I was totally exhausted heavily pregnant with a toddler and my husband was recovering from bunion surgery with his foot in cast. My mum invited my sisters family and my brother that year 🙃. I thought I'd get ahead this year and invited my mum to ours early. I was amazed when she said yes but thought well maybe as it's baby's first Xmas. I found out later it was because my sister had told her she is going away this year. My mum then stipulated she would only come if my brother comes too. I accepted of course but on reflection, I'm feeling very low in the pecking order after that interaction.

So so many of these things have occured throughout my life. I'm well aware I have middle child syndrome, but I'm also of the belief that it's justified. My parents (divorced) have often commented on this, as though the problem is me being irrational. I'm so confused now, perhaps it is.

To be honest, I think I need therapy to work through this. Something about having a second child has triggered some feeling and fight in me to protect myself as the second child I once was, and to protect my children from being second best to their cousins. And I'm really not sure how justified it is to take this up with my mum, or if there's any point. Each and every time I've ever made comment about it to her in person or over telephone I'm either hit with flat out denial or ridicule/deflection (e.g. you've always been jealous of ....) especially in front of others. She's taken great pleasure in telling others how I was so jealous when my brother was born that I faked having headaches and she was told by the doctor that I needed some attention. Her interpretation of this has been that I'm a total anomaly and mine that I'm clearly defective for doing this. But since seeing my daughter struggle to accept her baby brother and understanding now how normal and painful it is, I feel so much sadness for myself as a child and adult that I felt I needed to fake headaches to get noticed, and have been publicly ridiculed for it ever since.

Sorry for the essay, but am I actually going mad and blowing this out of proportion? Does it sound trivial to you and should I just try to shelve it to keep the peace? Or do you think I'm justified in standing up for myself now? AIBU? I don't know what to do.
I'm meant to be meeting them on Sunday, I really don't want to go, but if I don't then I'm the bad guy.

OP posts:
Cherrysoup · 27/11/2024 20:38

I don’t think yabu. It seems clear that your sister is the ‘golden child’ which she is adding to by telling you off for upsetting your mum. You can accept the scraps-I don’t see the situation changing any time soon-or you can take control of this and decide whether you want to be the ‘poor relation’. If you confront them, it sounds likely that they’ll deny, accuse, turn on you. If you don’t tell them, they’ll continue the dynamic of treating you as an afterthought.

It’s a very unfortunate and unfair situation. I don’t see it improving unless you make yourself even less available, but they seem to have completely sidelined you already. Possibly worth asking your mum why, but I think she’ll just be defensive and reduce contact. Why won’t she contact you except via the family chat? What does your brother think?

FavourCraver · 27/11/2024 21:17

You will never change their perceptions of you. It is totally unfair but you can never win. If I were you I’d think about protecting myself by having minimal contact. It is hurting you.

itsmylife7 · 27/11/2024 21:22

She sounds bloody awful.
How can she do so much for the others and go back on her promise to help you.

barbarahunter · 27/11/2024 21:30

I don't think you're being unreasonable, but as someone upthread said, it matters not what you do or say, your mother will not change. My experience with my mother is similar to yours and it is horrible to admit to yourself what's going on. The only thing to do is lower expectations but it remains bloody hurtful. You have your own family now, so enjoy your life with them.

A word of warning: As your mother ages, she may begin to require some attention and care. Watch out because you will not see your siblings for dust once they might have to actually help your mother in some way, long term. Golden children never help out when they are needed, so who does that leave to look after mum? Be very careful.

barbarahunter · 27/11/2024 21:32

And if you don't want to go on Sunday, give yourself permission not to go. You can't change their behaviour but you can change your own behaviour x

Rasputin123 · 27/11/2024 21:38

I feel for you OP I am the eldest child and received similar treatment from my DM.

My sister the youngest was the golden child and as a result of this my niece is the golden grandchild. My two never received anything like the same, time, love, attention and we never had one on one time or access to free childcare or babysitters for a night out etc.

Like you I often felt sad, hurt, angry, irrational and confused by my DM’s behaviour. I persevered for many years often thinking i must be at fault as I wasn’t loveable, likeable or I was somehow difficult and deserving of second class treatment from my DM. DM plays games and if I am ever tricked by her into speaking honestly and openly like you I am told/accused of being jealous, imagining it, she knew something was bothering me or why am I always am I always so awkward, bitter, hateful or jealous etc.

Over the last 20 years I have wrote a couple of letters, tried to explain how I felt or how unfair things were face fo face, in a phone call or text and nothing made any difference, our relationship didn’t improve and my children have always played second fiddle to my niece.

I would distance yourself as much as poss to protect yourself and or cut ties completely. But if your DM is like mine it won’t make any difference what you do say, don’t say or don’t do. You will always be the bad guy even if things seem to improve it only lasts very briefly. Take care

WynterQueen · 27/11/2024 21:51

Or do as I do

Tell her little
just let her talk
Do just enough to stay in the will
Note down things that upset you with a date and context
Plan conversations to have on her deathbed, telling her what you think of her

Unicorndreams24 · 27/11/2024 21:51

From one middle child to another you are not being unreasonable at all I can assure you. I have experienced this my whole life and I'm now at a point where I've stopped caring and go and see her more out of duty, I've become quite immune to it I guess to protect myself.
Take a step back and focus on your family solely as I'm sure they worship the ground you walk on and appreciate you. Don't rise to anything , brush it off and just roll with it xxx

cantarguewithfools · 27/11/2024 22:23

It sounds like your mum just likes you less than your siblings. It’s up to you how you deal with that. You may accept it and be able to manage having her in your life with no expectations, or you may find it hurtful and be unable to deal with her at all without it causing you upset. There’s no right or wrong, and nothing you can do to change it. It just is what it is.

ZiggyZowie · 27/11/2024 22:35

I'm youngest of 6 , my mother said she only wanted 3.

She ran away when I was 5 and returned one year later.

This still hurts, I am now 66, will never forget it.

Didn't visit me when I had my baby in hospital, found out she went to see my brother instead .

Her first born was the favourite,got the best of everything.

By the time I came along, there was just nothing left, she was emotionally absent if you like.

I just concentrate on my own kids ,that's all I can do.

gamerchick · 27/11/2024 22:41

WynterQueen · 27/11/2024 21:51

Or do as I do

Tell her little
just let her talk
Do just enough to stay in the will
Note down things that upset you with a date and context
Plan conversations to have on her deathbed, telling her what you think of her

And when it's the elderly years and she needs her arse wipes. You're too busy and sister will do it.

I'd take a massive step back and let her come to you. That craving for her will lesson and eventually go completely. It's the only way to protect yourself.

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 27/11/2024 22:41

This is very sad and disappointing for you. I think therapy would be a great idea. You may not change the situation much, but how it affects you and what it means to you may change very much for the better.

LetThereBeLove · 28/11/2024 10:43

OP you've received very good advice and I also think therapy would help you a lot. I was a single child but my mother didn't love me. She wanted three boys.

Rasputin123 · 28/11/2024 12:42

@JasmineCaru lots of us feel your pain so you are not alone. Although many of my friends have lovely healthy mother/daughter relationships but several of my friends have mothers like ours.

Your thread and the replies you have received makes you seriously wonder why many of these mothers bothered having children.

JasmineCaru · 28/11/2024 13:58

Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to read and respond with your kind and thoughtful words, and with such great advice 🙏It's been very validating on so many levels and I feel so sad also that so many of you have had similar experiences. We might not get to choose our families or be the favoured ones, but we can instead choose to dedicate our time to those who do favour us.

I do need to learn to let this go now and refocus all my energy on my children and husband and being the best mother and wife I can be. I think therapy will certainly help me getting on my way with this.

I've cancelled Sundays meet up, whilst still remaining civil. X

OP posts:
Furrydogmum · 28/11/2024 14:37

JasmineCaru · 28/11/2024 13:58

Thank you so much everyone for taking the time to read and respond with your kind and thoughtful words, and with such great advice 🙏It's been very validating on so many levels and I feel so sad also that so many of you have had similar experiences. We might not get to choose our families or be the favoured ones, but we can instead choose to dedicate our time to those who do favour us.

I do need to learn to let this go now and refocus all my energy on my children and husband and being the best mother and wife I can be. I think therapy will certainly help me getting on my way with this.

I've cancelled Sundays meet up, whilst still remaining civil. X

Cancel Christmas too - you will feel less stressed and enjoy your children more!

dairydebris · 28/11/2024 14:50

Oh op, this is incredibly sad to read. You're not blowing it out of proportion at all. You'll have felt like this to some extent all through your childhood, and having your second child and loving them as your mother should have loved you will be making it all very visceral.
In an ideal world, you'd be able to talk to your mother about this, and she'd be able to reassure you and try to reset the balance.
Unfortunately, I don't believe your mum or the rest of your family will be able to take this on board as it'll require admitting they've been wrong all these years. On some level she knows what she's done, but I think it's unlikely she'll ever admit it out loud.
I'd write a very long, heartfelt letter, let all of it out, then put the letter to the side and try your hardest to accept this is the way it is, although definitely not your fault. Then focus all your love and attention on your kids and husband. I'd also if possible seek to build a close grandparents relationship for your kids with your DH parents. Best of luck xxx

thistimelastweek · 28/11/2024 15:03

Furrydogmum · 28/11/2024 14:37

Cancel Christmas too - you will feel less stressed and enjoy your children more!

This.
Enjoy Christmas on your terms.

Iateallthechocolate · 03/12/2024 13:39

She's not your real family now. She's just extended family. When she contacts you, chat about the weather, if she wants to see you say you're busy, you'll get back to her. Then don't. Have therapy if you need to make peace with letting go of a relationship you find painful.

MyGod · 03/12/2024 13:53

You don't have to be a middle child to be treated that way.
My mum has never really liked me and I'm the youngest. I've always felt like she has just tolerated me.
At my dads funeral she never spoke one word to me and the past few years she hasn't even bothered to tolerate me.
Recently moving in with my sister without even letting me know she was moving.
Noone understands because she a sweet old lady with everyone else.

MyGod · 03/12/2024 13:55

No idea why that is my username 🤦

TheHistorian · 03/12/2024 14:28

MyGod · 03/12/2024 13:53

You don't have to be a middle child to be treated that way.
My mum has never really liked me and I'm the youngest. I've always felt like she has just tolerated me.
At my dads funeral she never spoke one word to me and the past few years she hasn't even bothered to tolerate me.
Recently moving in with my sister without even letting me know she was moving.
Noone understands because she a sweet old lady with everyone else.

Another disliked child here but middle one. My mother was awful to me as a child and beyond, although she also exploited me to parent her youngest child and do housework and make dinner, which I did trying to win her approval.

Unfortunately some mothers really do dislike their children and scapegoat them to offload their issues onto. I don't think it natural or normal for a parent to behave this way. It's not you @JasmineCaru , it's your mother's issue.

I found therapy life changing in this situation. I eventually broke free from my mother's nastiness and manipulation of other family members against me. It wasn't easy and I'm now NC with my whole family but it beats trying, trying, trying (and failing) to get approval from someone who basically doesn't like you. I feel healed and indifferent to her.

If NC is too much for you. Definitely therapy and lowest contact possible. You need other people who can love and appreciate you. You can't keep going back to the poisoned well.

amyds2104 · 03/12/2024 14:37

You are not being unreasonable. I’d try and take back some control. Your mother and family will not alter or suddenly change as it’s to ingrained but what can change is your response to them. I’d sent a lovely message on the group chat and then mute it along the lines of “Hi sorry but we have had a change of plans for Christmas this year so won’t be able to host now. I know you wanted to spend time with brother so I’ll message him and let him know too that we won’t be able to host you both x”
then enjoy Christmas with your direct family and focus on making happy memories where there are no favourites!
For validation (although not needed) middle child syndrome is a thing and normally parents are reluctant to see it at the time. I’m 36 and my mother admitted last year that she spent more time with brothers because “they needed her more” … hey Ho.
minimal contact seems the way forward for you xx wish you all the best from one middle child to another xxx

allthatfalafel · 03/12/2024 14:52

If you haven't read the book Toxic Parents, it's worth a read

Blondielox4eva · 03/12/2024 15:42

I totally understand how you feel. Mine kicked me out at 17, 3 years after moving her married partner in. Everything she did was for him, not me or my younger brother. She went out of her way to try to get his kids on side, including letting one move in with her cat. That was after I left a domestic abuse situation when I was heavily pregnant, and she wouldn't even let me stay at hers. Always told me I was like my dad (who I witnessed battering her growing up). Now I have kids that she doesn't even have any form of relationship with. My older kids are in their 20s and still remember her only ever popping in for a cuppa coz she had 10 mins free. My youngest is 8 now and never met her. What our mums don't realise is how much it hurts and affects us and our children in our lives. One day they will need us and we won't be there, that's down to them. I'm not bitter, but I'm now 50 and seen so many daughters who have such an amazing bond with their mums over the years. They're so lucky, it's made me be more determined to have that bond with my kids. I will never be my mum

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