What do you think of Australia's vaccine policy?

[rampy]

I'm born and bred Aussie. We live in WA and kids here can't go to kindy or school
without having been vaccinated. I have a couple of British friends who were so offended that they needed to vaccinate their kids they home schooled because 'well we'll just go back to the uk' but they've stayed and now need to get their kids vaccinated because they have no friends their own age and can't go to school without vaccines.

You can't apply for child related benefits if your kid isn't vaccinated either here.

Having seen NZ have just declared a whooping cough epidemic Id say I agree with WA stance I'm honest!

To clarify. I don’t think if it was mandatory.

We just had to fill in that part on the paperwork for reception and year 7 iirc. We vaccinate anyway so never thought about it.

@Annabmt I have a pharmacy degree. Which ones are extremely harmful?

My DC was born in Australia a couple of years ago. I was very impressed with how they encouraged anyone who would be close to the baby to have the pertussis vaccination.

One couple of friends proactively told me that they had just been vaccinated because they had a grandchild on the way.

My best friend proactively called me to tell me that she had booked her vaccination (even though I hadn’t mentioned anything about it to her).

Of course you live in America, you're happy to live in a country where it's normal not to have clean drinking water, kids have gun drills at school, and half the population voted for a convicted felon as leader. The rest of us wouldn't dream of living like that.

How does religion make you exempt from science?

I am in America and I have never heard of a medical exemption being a thing. I'm sure there must be some provisions made for very rare cases but you can't just claim religious reasons and not be vaccinated. They check your records every year and if your child is not 100% up to speed with their vaccinations they will ultimately be denied schooling. This is the same with public (and private) universities, so it goes for young adults too. I agree with this policy

My children are fully vaccinated, already home educated and I don't claim any benefits for them.

However, I feel very uncomfortable with this policy. It seems coercive, and effectively gives the wealthy the option to refuse the vaccine, but not the poor.

if its the public views vs the scientists views i trust the scientists

I am pro-vaccine if they didn't add so many extra things into the vaccine, but they do

Such as what @Annabmt?

You can apply and receive child related benefits, you just receive slightly less if unvaccinated

Not for entry you don't.

Schools might ask for medical info (not that I've come across it) but they can't bar your children if they haven't been

As I mentioned above, a lot of vaccines contain pig gelatin as a stabiliser, and this is something that strict followers of some religions simply cannot have. The same for vegans or vegetarians.

If there is not a vegan version of the vaccine available in that countries healthcare system, then they cannot be vaccinated.

I am atheist and a meat eater, but respect others beliefs and do not believe that someone should be forced to use use, ingest or otherwise be administered something that is wildly at odds with these values. So yes, I do believe that there should be religious or dietary exemptions.

It doesn't affect any of the anti-vaxxers I know. They generally home school, don't use childcare or kindergartens, earn enough that they don't qualify for child benefits anyway. Or feel strongly enough they would give them up.

I lived there when the 'no jab, no play' policy was introduced. I did scoff at it (ironically) because we don't qualify for any child benefits anyway, never used childcare or early childhood education, and while it didn't stop me enrolling my children in school if they weren't vaccinated, I would have home schooled if I felt strongly about it.

I lose nothing and have choice due to personal circumstances. I don't like that those who are desperate for child benefits or don't have the option to home school might be forced into it. I value choice in things medical.

It should be a more common policy in my opinion, worldwide if possible although I understand in some countries this may be difficult

I have a nursing degree, at no point was I taught what was in vaccinations or the 'harmful' products within vaccines. It isn't covered as part of the nursing degree in the UK. I doubt this qualifies you to state this as fact.
Where are you based?
I was taught about evidence based practice......
It worries me that you are a student nurse, that will soon be qualified and spreading this nonsense

Many countries and most states in the US have similar policy. I agree with it.

Things. Y'know... things.

The great scientists at the pharma companies make a perfectly good vaccine, but then they are required by the WEF and Bill Gates and the Illuminati to leave the room for a few minutes, so that people from the Random Things department add completely useless extra chemicals, which have no function at all. Bewildering, I know, but that's the New World Order™ for you.

I'm strongly opposed to mandatory vaccinations.

People can and do die and others suffer life-long disabilities after having vaccinations, and making them mandatory when there are such risks (as stated on the vaccine inserts), is disgraceful, in my view. Where there is risk, there must be choice. You cannot give informed consent, as required by law, when it is mandated via coercion.

As for those spouting safeguarding reasons, you're very ignorant. Schooled children are statistically much more likely to be from abusive homes than home educated children. Home education is NOT a safeguarding concern, this is clearly stated (in the UK), government guidelines. It's very sad that there is still such a stigma against home educating families, especially given how much research we tend to put into lifestyle and parenting decisions, compared to others.

I don't agree with mandatory vaccination for anyone.

Is the fly spray included in this?

@ToothHurtyAppointment 🤣🤣 it’s always those ones eh?
People: ‘you don’t know what they put in vaccine ‘ while smoking like a chimney/ drinks booze like there’s no tomorrow/ diet is 99% ultra processed stuff.

@ReadingSoManyThreads

There have been recent child abuse cases in the UK where the child was withdrawn from school to be homeschooled to cover up the abuse. I don't think anyone is suggesting that all homeschooled children are abused, merely that their should be better regulation, including inspection of the quality of learning (which any responsible parent would support). So I don't think we need to be calling people ignorant, do you?

It is the same in my USA state, no vaccines no school, private or state, no university either.

People need vaccinations

No vaccine? No education

Same here in Canada

My kid is the 1 in 100000 reaction, but I still agree with the rules. Because he was also at risk of infection due to being immunocompromised, and even something everyday like the flu would put him in the ICU.