Aibu to be very upset at the way this poor care worker was treated by the Irish Taoiseach? Video in link.

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As our main political leader I find his manner very condescending & passive aggressive. Very upset watching this.. Video linked here. Care workers in Ireland have been let down very badly by our politicians

www.rte.ie/news/post/104564612/

This is just nonsense. Nobody called Aontu out on their lack of a manifesto because they'll be nowhere near leading a government. It's an irrelevance. SF is the only realistic alternative to lead a government and SH and MM had the attacks ready to go.

I agree. He completely accepted that he was wrong, apologised personally to her and had the discussion that she wanted. Case closed for me. I don't see the need to blow it up into a big thing.

And?

He's a good speaker but I'm not going to vote for a party whose values I fundamentally disagree with.

I notice they're being very quiet on the abortion issue even though it's right at the core of who they are. I say 'they', but really the only candidate you ever hear speak is their dear leader (a point the journalists called out at the manifesto launch).

As someone who campaigned hard for Repeal in 2018, there is not a snowball's chance in hell that I would vote for Aontu.

Fine Gael are not liked anyway. Helen McEntee looked in jeopardy before this.
Simon Harris left the country down with his behaviour. This video has gone viral globally & is absolutely gaining momentum. He has also let his current TDs & councillors down big time a week before the election. I'm sure morale must be very low within Fine Gael after the incident in Co Cork.

As are all the other parties being very quite about their allegiance to trans ideology which they fully support.
Fianna Gael, Fianna Fáil, The Greens, Labour, Social Democrats, People before Profit, Sinn Féin have all been captured by Gender Ideologies & their activists. All the parties listed believe men can be woman, men can have babies & men with penis can enter female spaces, prisons & sports teams. They left Barbie Kardashian in a female prison for months due to the Gender Recognition Act. Thank God Aontú want to repeal this so we don't have another Barbie Kardashian scandal. How dare they treat females like this.

@Sakura7 i honestly don't give a fiddlers fart who you vote for. We live in a democracy (for the moment anyways this govt would happily slap the hate speech Bill over the lot of us!) But I have no problem vouching for why I myself will vote for Aontú.

I am in lreland. I hate this tendency to pick one incidence during a busy campaign trail and use it against someone to the point of destruction. Its akin to cancel culture. OK show the video and people will make up their own mind but going into a complete barrage against the man is completely unnecessary. Harris got involved in politics originally due to his brothers autism and the need to fight for things for him so l presume he has some idea of what families with a loved one with a disability endures.
Aontu have good policies but its easy to say stuff when there is very little chance you will being called on to put your money where your mouth is.
I have no political affiliation but l hate the modern way of completely wiping someone out due to one incident under stress.

Ask any family with children with autism they are getting NO support, no funding, no supports in schools. The way children with Autism are treated is shocking, therapy lists are very long & again only well off families can afford private supports & even at that the waiting lists are long..
No SNAs the list is endless.. So you are saying he got into politics to help families with autism. Well he hasn't done anything to alleviate the burden!

This 13 year child is doing far more than any politician in government to fight for the rights of autistic children & their carers!!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/im-not-giving-up-we-can-no-longer-wait-for-the-adults-in-the-room-cara-darmody-13-on-her-battle-for-better-autism-services/a1060224230.html

You are right . Families are suffering terribly. As a teacher l have some experience in fighting tooth and nail for an SNA , for ongoing support..everything. My issue was completely obliterating someone online, everywhere on one reaction. Fine , don't vote for him but there is no need for a full on character assassination.

That poor woman was obliterated on RTE, spoken over, her feelings & opinions completely invalidated, completely shot down.
I wasn't voting for Fine Gael anyway but the treatment of this women is a reminder of how scoliosis families are treated.. Simon said no child would be waiting for surgery more than 4 months, children are waiting years. The cervical cancer scandal is another one. Also the bike shed & childrens hospital. Autism families are invisible. Politicians need to be held accountable, we have an election on Friday & I feel our taoiseachs actions in Co. Cork were completely unacceptable. I have a right to express that you know. If you want to see full a character assassination have a look in the comments section of any article accross social media. People are angry & fed up with good reason. I expect more a lot from a head of state.
As a teacher you shouldn't have to fight for what your children are entitled to. Yours & their needs should be met by government. It's happening accross all sectors. This government have failed many, many groups not just teachers.

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/elections-2024/he-was-horrible-last-night-carer-in-exchange-with-simon-harris-shaken-after-incident/a1235734311.html

Also think about the feelings of that poor care worker. According to this article she was left feeling "very shaken". That is not how one should feel after meeting anyone never mind our Taoiseach. So please spare a thought for Charlotte Fallon too like the rest of the country. She said in this here she went home crying. There is no defending that type of behaviour. RTE were correct in making the incident public knowledge.

Shows how little they care.

The only positive from this is that it's a week before a general election.. Also I have been pleasently surprised at how RTE & the mainstream have been all over this!
No damage control or censorship of online comments. We are actually getting unbiased reporting for the first time in a long time. And this is very important in the lead up to the election. It seems the mainstream media are just as appalled as the rest of the country.

Latest polls via Ireland thinks & the Sunday Independent. Good man Peadar Toibín topping yet another poll based on the leaders debate last Monday.

I am a single issue voter, always have been.

Are you saying you always have voted with your "gender critical" issue in mind? What age are you?

I don't think Aontú are completely nuts and I have no doubt they will grow their support this time.
Hell would freeze over before I'd vote for them but I'm not their target anyway. Peader is a good speaker (their only speaker!) and I'm sure there are a core group of conservative, nationalist voters who will vote for them.

Their only speaker because they were only formed 5 years ago & the last general election was four years ago!!!!
He is their only representative in the Dáil & look at the momentum he has built for being the parties only voice!

The previous election I voted with education as my single issue. I am 44.

Here are the issues the electorate actually cares about, from the latest Sindo poll.

A certain single issue is nowhere to be seen.

Yep & here is the poll from the Sunday Independent on Peadar Toibín winning the leaders debate. Obviously the polled electorate think he argued the best on those matters you listed which were discussed on the debate.

I am in lreland. I hate this tendency to pick one incidence during a busy campaign trail and use it against someone to the point of destruction. Its akin to cancel culture. OK show the video and people will make up their own mind but going into a complete barrage against the man is completely unnecessary.

It is fascinating how one miss step can cause a drop in the polls by so much.

I think it was just a stress response at the time. But it tapped into a feeling that Fine Gael supports is a party that supports people who have money - it doesn't stand up for the vulnerable and it doesn't care about growing inequality.

I worked on the frontline with vulnerable families living in poverty for years and the difference between their children's life chances and mind are so stark because our public services are so poor.

I am in Ireland also.

I saw the clip. It wasn't Simon's best moment but he apologised and is planning to meet her to discuss further. He was tired after a long day and had met and spoke to many others on many topics.

As far as I am concerned that's it. Case closed. I think it is being blown up way too much on this and the other thread that the same OP has started.

Regarding the election I wasnt planning on voting FG anyway but this incident would not persuade me away from them had I been planning to do so.

Well said @mollyfolk it is fascinating & especially for it to happen so close to the election. Simon Harris appeared to be quite a measured man unlike say Trump or Boris Johnson who have had so many "moments" we became immune to them.

The fascinating part of this too is the fact mainstream media aired it & are not letting up. It's probably happened many politicians when the cameras weren't rolling. Unfortunately for Simon there were & RTE chose to air it.

https://gript.ie/vile-scoliosis-children-failed-by-the-state-as-minister-admits-funds-for-surgeries-spent-more-broadly/

This is an excellent article highlighting how children with scoliosis have been failed by this government..
Simon Harris promised no child would be waiting more then four months for scoliosis surgery, some are now waiting four years... Lies, lies, lies. Friday can't come quick enough!

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/roderic-ogorman-raids-funds-to-push-11m-to-lgbtq-projects/42370318.html

Never forget that it was Peadar Toibín & Aontú who revealed Roderic O Gorman had taken funds designated for other groups & reallocated the funds to lgbtq projects.
Peadar obtained the shocking evidence through the freedom of information act showing real leadership & proving he's the only real opposition party in the Dáil.

I watched it last night to see what all the fuss was about and you could hear the emotion in the woman’s voice as she tried to communicate . That said I wouldn’t judge SH or FG by this single encounter at the end of a long day.

Ireland’s campaigns are strange though: you only have to see them all dancing in that Monaghan woman’s gift shop to see how challenging a tightrope they walk.

Thinking about it, I wonder if SH is neurodiverse - although sociable and a good communicator he can seem very awkward and uncertain at times when a situation goes off script.

Like MM & LV previously he is unable to deal with unscriped questions.
He was there to meet the public & was advocating for the local TD John Paul O Shea. He had no intention of giving that woman the time of day. The local TD should have at least continued to speak with poor Charlotte Fallon rather than following Simon with the rest of the local entourage.