Should we be worried about war

[Seasidesand76]

Seen a lot in the news about Ukraine using USA missiles against Russia. I've been thinking more along the lines that it won't start a WW3 and will resolve at some point without the UK getting directly involved in war. But there seems to be more and more tension and threats of an all out war recently.

Should we be worried about WW3? I haven't been prepping or anything but does make me wonder if I should start getting a few days worth of food in case. At the same time I don't want to go down the prepper hole and start getting over the top.

Do you generally listen to and respect the opinions of convicted sex offenders?

Ritter is a vile specimen. i cant believe he is being quoted on mumsnet and held up as an authority on anything

Raise the bar, please

@MistressoftheDarkSide black adder indeed.

It all sounds v nasty and I can't see how putin can let this go and I don't understand why we have to send missiles.
We have supported them so much.

We're sending missiles because it's in our best interests, and is the optimum way to pursue our defence. The UK is safer if Russia lose than if they win.

Few months back mumsnet had a 6-7 pages of monkey pox and some of the posts there were hilarious 😂 it’s called fear porn and works to make the population e en more stressed and worried. Get about your daily life and ignore

He can't do that. A lot of people have the nuclear codes. They would all have to agree. And Putin himself does not want to end up dead or living in the middle of a nuclear winter. Ukraine is no good to him then.

Thank goodness he's old and in suspected ill health. Because it's disgusting what he's done to Ukraine and he cannot be allowed to get away with it.

I'll tell you why we have to send missiles. Because lately, Russian troops are advancing into Ukraine and making 100 metres of ground every day.

We are at the point where they need help to stop this.

Hopefully out of a window 🥰

Ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world. What the UK needs to do is not get involved at all. It's none of our business.

Would you have that attitude if another country attacked us? Would you not expect help to save your children? Or do you think we're special and Ukrainians are lesser beings? 🤨

What I'm saying is that this isn't our war and has nothing to do with us.

Many other countries are staying out of it, and we can do the same. They likely already have sufficient support, such as from the USA.

Besides, we don't have the budget to support another war.

No, that's not how it works. @LoveLifeBeHappy - where do you think we'd be now if the world had taken that attitude when Hitler started invading Europe?

I can't believe the ignorance.

Do you have a source for that

And have you heard of the a Budapest Memorandum?

Jeez

It has a lot to do with us, because we know from experience that ignoring Russia when they start land wars in Europe means they start more. Several of their neighbours are in NATO, like us, which means it's in our interests to try and ensure Russia don't invade them. And we already know that appeasing Russia makes further warmongering from them more likely. We don't have the budget for the consequences that come from letting them do whatever they like.

I am worrying myself atm over the thought of a low yield tactical nuclear strike on Kyiv.
Please tell me I'm letting menopausal anxiety get the better of me.

They won’t do that, if they do then they can expect the same in kind and no one wants to see an escalation of that nature. I believe they might strike Ukraine but it is extremely unlikely they will use nuclear weapons. It would be the end of Putin if they did. Potentially the end of Russia as we know it.

They have no sources. They barely speak English.

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Thank you.
I hope you're right.

How is the weather there? Minus figures I expect.

We absolutely have the budget to defend our interests and moreover it won’t be just us, it will be all of NATO and allies. Russia will be totally destroyed literally within minutes - they have used all of their rusting hardware, they have used up their Iranian drones and now they are killing Koreans en masse.

No, this does not worry me at all.

I think it's inevitable. With so many alliances we are lined up pretty much like before WW1 and WW11. It's those alliances that will haul us all into war whether we like it or not. Nuclear war is not a given but tactical bombing is. I'm more concerned with the Middle East than Russia. Russia is economically crippled and if Ukraine hold out enough, Russia will run out of money. But escalating war in the Middle East is following all predictions set out after WW11.
Food shortages are also a given, seeing that we are so dependent on imports and in crisis it's every country for themselves.
I work in pharmacy and shortages of drugs are already becoming noticeable. Supply lines are being interrupted and certain products are too expensive.

I would certainly make sure I had enough essential every day food and medicine for a few months.

I understand that this push by both sides is timed before the winter truly sets in, when either side are unlikely to make much progress. Trump is coming into office and each side wants to be in the strongest possible position before the end game negotiations begin.

Russia simply cannot sustain this war indefinitely or even for much longer. The military strategists seem to have been expecting this.

Just turn off the news. They are no doubt hoping to cash in on the viewing figures.

If you mean do I think it will escalate into a nuclear confrontation? Absolutely not.
Unless there is some kind of technical mistake as happened a couple of times in the 80s, but common sense prevailed. Or Putin and his team literally go beyond batshit insane. Possible, but honestly I think the chances are exceptionally slim.
the Middle East? Right now, highly unlikely. Iran just doesn’t have the tech. Look at the failure of the rocket strikes. Do you know Israel’s response. A single
F35, destroyed the radar of their most advanced missile system. Basically saying, you have no chance. This is not a pro Israel. / Israel bashing post. Just military fact.
Ukraine it’s similar to the proxy wars of Vietnam, Afghanistan (80s), Korea. expect in Europe so feels more “real”, at least to our generation.

Russia, despite its nuclear arsenal just does not want Armageddon. It wants power and recognition and a standing similar to that of years ago. Post WW2, when it also had the backing (coerced) of
the Warsaw Pact - their version of nato.

this has gone. Money is an issue. Hence everything else.

china does not want war. Well
certainly not a global
one. China thinks VERY long term. Dynasties. Taiwan, who knows what will happen there. They look more vulnerable under Trump. But realistically, the 2 most powerful global economies don’t want to destroy one another. Because ultimately that’s what would happen. They,
annoying for them, both need each other.

so barring any “accidents”, compete descent into insanity on behalf of Putin
and his close pals, WW3 is unlikely. Very unlikely. Certainly a nuclear conflict.

That would be the case over the winter anyway. Supply lines of drugs will be fine and always ebb and flow. Many are made here which is helpful. This was a system checked and tested across the pandemic, along with food and other essential services. Thanks to the pandemic we are in a much stronger position because of it.

I'm not worrying, no, but both the Russia-Ukraine and the Israel-Gaza conflicts have lead to an increased underlying anxiety I guess.
Full on WW3? I kinda think unlikely but increased fuel bills, inflation, food insecurity, migration pressure etc etc probably Yes. Not to mention human suffering, political instability and so on.
If I do anything, it will be something that would give longer lasting security than "getting a few days food in" .
But as many say, in the meantime I'm just getting on with my life and thanking God that I'm not in either Gaza or Ukraine.

More risk of WW3 caused by Israel than by Russia