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Have people forgotten about covid and what's really important?

281 replies

Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

OP posts:
RedRiverShore5 · 17/11/2024 08:35

There was a lot of arseholes traipsing over fields with their shitting lockdown dogs

LlynTegid · 17/11/2024 08:38

I agree with you OP. An aspect of 2020 and 2021 that has been forgotten was those who used the pandemic to their advantage, especially corrupt procurement and fake businesses. I want justice for that to be served.

Differentstarts · 17/11/2024 08:38

Firstly as someone with long covid I absolutely remember covid. Unfortunately what your remembering is not what I'm remembering. I worked in a supermarket before being shielded so I got of easy but I remember the beginning which was people fighting over loo roll, refusing to wear face masks, not being capable of keep their distance. People coughing in my face without covering their mouth, licking their fingers before passing money over and the abuse to staff going up.

Barrenfieldoffucks · 17/11/2024 08:41

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 17/11/2024 00:16

OP, that is some self-indulgent, finger-wagging cringe-fest but I hope it was at least cathartic for you.

Ha, exactly what I thinking.

Curtainqueen · 17/11/2024 08:43

It has not really gone anywhere. I mean people aren't catching it at the same rates but they are still getting it. I had a contractor cancel last week after testing positive. I had a booster last month as I'm vulnerable and at risk but I still worry in crowded places and public transport when I hear someone spluttering and coughing. It made me so unwell when I got it that I never want to catch it ever again. That was 6 months after a booster so I wasn't fully protected anymore but I'm definitely more wary.

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:44

To those saying it was a light cold…

Covid was a new virus belonging to the same set of viruses as SARS. NOT the same set of viruses as flu.

People have experienced colds/flu etc before so your body has some learnt immunity.

As this was a new virus, it was difficult to say how different people would react and how the virus could mutate.

So before the vaccine, a lot of people had serious complications and hospitals couldn’t cope across all their services.

Londontown12 · 17/11/2024 08:44

Tbh I don’t think it’s just covid !
Anyone that has tough times in life say for instance bereavement, cancer diagnosis, job loss , long term health conditions, they tend to see the world and people differently and actually realise what’s important!
Most people just going about theirs lives and only thinking about themselves is quite normal . However people have got absolutely entitled and rude I don’t really get it but hey if u carry on being nice your not one of them ❤️

pleasehelpwi3 · 17/11/2024 08:45

Some people were and always will rude and entitled.
In others covid brought out the best in people.
My NHS partner got the balance right- politely enquiring usually but not always if there was an NHS discount,but not taking the piss eg for small purchases/in smaller businesses and being grateful when there was. They were told to look after their badges as there was a spate of badge thieving, anecdotally at least connected to discounts. Also, it cuts both ways- there is an expensive restaurant near us that still offers NHS workers a 10% discount off the entire bill, and we probably wouldn't go there if they didn't. It's a win-win: they still make a profit and we save some money.
It does feel like ages ago now anyway. I think threads like this should be archived forever so that future historians can enjoy comparing them with similar threads from the time of covid and also five years hence, to see how memories and recollections evolve and change. Just as there was a lot of recording for prosperity of those with experiences and of the Second World War; all the more important as the last people with memories that time leave the stage permanently. In 70+ years time it will be the same for Covid.

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:46

I think people have become increasingly individualistic/self preservation due to Covid. Hence the popularity of Trump/Farage. This happens when people experience hardship.

Menapausemum1974 · 17/11/2024 08:48

pumpkinpillow · 17/11/2024 00:25

I'm sure there were twats as there have always been, but I thought it was a positive thing that suddenly many jobs which are low paid and often looked down on as unskilled and unimportant suddenly got more respect e.g. carers, supermarket workers, food provision, bus drivers.

it was the security guards at Morrisons that thought they were the Gestapo! Their heads definitely swelled for a while, they have gone a bit quiet now 🤣

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 08:48

I think threads like this should be archived forever so that future historians can enjoy comparing them with similar threads from the time of covid and also five years hence, to see how memories and recollections evolve and change. Just as there was a lot of recording for prosperity of those with experiences and of the Second World War; all the more important as the last people with memories that time leave the stage permanently. In 70+ years time it will be the same for Covid.

Really interesting point.

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:50

The scary thing is : with likes of highly individualistic individuals like Trump/Musk etc dominating the world, who have extreme amounts of money - they can PAY to corrupt politics. They have power through their billions. This worries me more than Covid.

HonoraBridge · 17/11/2024 08:51

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

🎯🎯🎯

soupfiend · 17/11/2024 08:51

What is 'really important' then?

The covid shut downs were awful for society, we will be burdened with the impact of this for decades to come. A generational disadvantage that will affect us all.

People are rude and entitled because there is a growing sense of individuality and specialiness. People dont want to consider that there is nothing special or different about them.

Cyclingmummy1 · 17/11/2024 08:54

JolieFilleCommentCaVa · 17/11/2024 00:04

The world realised what was important.

No it didn’t 😂

Boris and his mates in number 10 were partying whilst telling all us plebs to “stay home, save lives”.

We were also told to stay home but at the same time “eat out to help out”.

Selfish people raided the supermarket shelves of pasta, baked beans and toilet roll. Going to the supermarket for essentials was like going out for basic rations in WWII.

Small business owners lost their livelihoods, whilst the mates of the Tories were awarded hundred million pound contracts to supply PPE and profiting millions.

There was so much hostility. Neighbours turning on one another. Reporting each other to the police for “breaking guidelines”. Whilst our lovely Tory politicians were also breaking the guidelines but gave no fucks about it. And gave no fucks for ordinary working class people.

It was an entire fucking shambles.

Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

The country was shit before the pandemic. Was shit during the pandemic. And still is shit after the pandemic.

I think people have the right to complain when the standard and cost of living in this country is (and sorry for repeating myself) shit!

Government employees and politicians of all parties were breaking guidelines.

HippoCamping · 17/11/2024 08:55

Well no matter @Attelina : the likes of Trump and vaccine sceptic RFK JR will be your scientific advisors during the next pandemic. You’ll be told to drink bleach.

Differentstarts · 17/11/2024 08:56

Attelina · 16/11/2024 23:08

It was mostly all nonsense and lies.

Can you not see how hurtful comments like this are to people like me. I had family members, friends and colleagues die from covid, I nearly died from covid I spent over a month in hospital. I'm still struggling with long covid over 2 years later. I'm now disabled and can no longer work full time. Just because you got of lightly others didn't.

Tahlbias · 17/11/2024 08:58

Beautifulweeds · 16/11/2024 23:04

Just this really.

Covid...working or non working parents had to have online teaching at home (for working so much more difficult). Teachers had to do these lessons online while supervising their own kids being taught online.
It showed how many parents found it difficult teaching their own and so sad some suicides of single parents having no escape.

Supermarkets...
In fear of covid but worked through, online delivery went through the roof, all working. A close relative with parent on chemo hadn't got the official document through so had to keep working and go home to a highly vulnerable person. Took several weeks to sort, otherwise woukd have lost job if refused to go in.

NHS, I remember the days just before it was announced and A and E staff having a more than full waiting room of coughing before mandatory mask wearing.

The impact...stay at home, if you could. Celebrities showing off, non essential things like false eyelashes, fake nails, any form of plastic surgery etc stopped.

The world realised what was important. Now it has too easily gone back to the superficiality it was before and people complaining about everything.

Thank you for reading my long post, just needed to put it out there.

I, for one, as a frontline worker and human being, am so disappointed at how so many people have gone back to being so rude and entitled, when they were relying on us at thay time to help them live. X

Or the impact that COVID had on our young children. Children who are still afraid to go into a school and are homeschooled. The world keeps turning, I'm afraid

Tiredmumtoboy · 17/11/2024 08:58

Mumblechum0 · 16/11/2024 23:51

I think most people were just desperate to go back to normal.

It all feels like a horrible dream now.

The lasting effects seem to be mostly for kids who lost out on early years learning, a friend of mine is a teacher and says there's a marked difference in pre and post Covid reception children in terms of social skills

That's really interesting!

What differences did she notice if I might ask?

Hunglikeapolevaulter · 17/11/2024 08:59

How could we forget? We're still dealing with rampant inflation and the enshitification of society that it spawned. Have you seen the average town centre now?

Knickersinatwist22 · 17/11/2024 09:01

No wee haven't forgotten covid or what's Important..this is a pointless post

scalt · 17/11/2024 09:03

It was extremely valuable lesson in how a supposed "democracy" can turn into tyranny at the drop of a hat (and it could still happen again), and that those at the top do not care about the "little people" at all, as beautifully proved by one Saint Boris. And yes, we were desperate to get back to normal, and not the "new normal" that the government kept telling us about, which implied that restrictions might become very, very permanent.

A short initial lockdown might have been justified, in the circumstances. But so much wasn't: extending lockdowns by stealth "just three more weeks, just three more weeks...", impossible promises "we can turn this virus around in twelve weeks", keeping children out of school for months on end, encouraging the public to dob each other in (yes, the government actively encouraged this), playing divide and conquer to keep the public fighting (e.g. with vaccination), deliberately frightening the pants off the public, preventing people from comforting their dying loved ones, closing playgrounds, talking of killing pets because they might spread the virus, making children believe they killed granny, calling children names, such as "vectors of transmission", bringing us dangerously close to forced vaccination; so much of that was CRUEL, INHUMANE, AND UNNECESSARY. And then Partygate being the proof that the government knew that it was mostly bullshit.

SoiledMyselfDuringSomeTurbulence · 17/11/2024 09:08

I think the pet killing stuff was in retrospect rather than at the time, wasn't it? Johnson claimed there was an idea they might have to cull all pet cats (and presumably strays also?) but the way he phrased it sounded like he knew that was completely unrealistic.

Plastictrees · 17/11/2024 09:10

I certainly haven’t forgotten. It was a terrible time and the impact will be felt for many years to come. The gaslighting government, lack of PPE in the NHS, the ridiculous ‘clap for carers’, all the deaths directly due to covid and also indirectly due to covid e.g people not being able to get treatment for cancer. Funerals being held remotely, the social isolation, the horrific increased rates of domestic violence in lockdown, the impact on the mental health of the population including young children who missed out crucial years of social development. The constant sense of threat and anxiety, the fear of spreading covid accidentally to the clinically vulnerable, the fact that the clinically vulnerable had been self isolating prior to Covid anyway - highlighting the inequalities those with long term health conditions and disabilities face. The impact of covid on BME communities and again how this highlighted inequalities in health care and longstanding issues that need addressing, but haven’t really been.

I think the whole thing has largely been swept under the carpet and there’s been no real reflection, learning or actions taken as a result of what came to light during covid - on a systemic level. All blame and responsibility was pushed onto individuals instead. I feel exhausted thinking about it.

I am glad things are more ‘normal’ now however I will always be disgusted by how the government dealt with it.

mydogisthebest · 17/11/2024 09:13

Lots of people were rude and selfish before covid and, sadly, now many many more are.

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