To support UK Farmers

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And due to KS's inability to face them in Wales today they are now thinking of going on strike. Because the govt are being too stubborn to reconsider how they apply IHT on working family farms. By all means close the loophole that allows the 'landed gentry' to take advantage of the agricultural exception but not with so blunt an instrument.

I was hoping to add a post to an existing thread but there isn't one despite it being headline news today.

I laughed at the wool profit too. As for milk it's subsidised to keep the masses happy.

"Trying to have a sensible conversation" with someone isn't accusing them of being a threat to your sanity for not being converted by your claims, irrespective of how committed to them your own personal circumstances have made you.

Opinions really are like arseholes aren’t they?

I’m willing to bet a large percentage of those salivating at the thought of farmers going bust are living on benefits. Let’s put those back in the taxpayers pocket shall we? That’s one change that would actually benefit the country.

This thread, and the others like it, really are the epitome of can’t argue with stupid. If you cannot see by now how fundamentally damaging this policy is for everybody in the country, I despair.

So you can pay your taxes the same as everybody else.

YABVU. Inheritance Tax is easily avoided if you arrange your financial affairs properly.

A little more time spent with an accountant and a solicitor, and little less spent moaning, winging and driving tractors around London, and the problem would be resolved.

Do you think the really big estates (Chatsworth, for example) are concerned? Of course not.

No animals? Umm where are you going to get your natural fertilizer 💩💩

Me too - I buy U.K. grown as far as possible. So no EU meat either - another factor being the factory farming issue, esp. as regards pork and bacon - and U.K. butter only.

Yeah, everyone's got one.

Fortunately though, they don't all stink as bad as that.

If I was a gambler, I'd bet you're a daily fail reader.

No one is crying “get off my laaannnd!” round here but I will point out the dangers cos obviously it’s too late when you have been trampled to death by some cows.

Here's an informative overview of UK food security, from 2021.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/united-kingdom-food-security-report

You'd think the need to ensure we can feed ourselves would prompt a bit of curiosity into how half the food on the supermarket shelves actually gets there.

Leaving aside whatever personal grievances people have based on specific prejudices about farmers.

The water boards are being fined for putting human 💩💩 into our rivers so your argument is weak.

It’s not though and as for dismissing everybody who disagrees with you as living on benefits- seriously. That is not going to champion your cause. People unfortunate enough to be reliant on befits stuck in mold infested buildings with no access to green spaces don’t choose that.

Farmers get a lot of leg ups but the disabled and poor should get nothing. How lovely. Says it all really entitled land owners can pay their taxes the same as everybody else.

Unless the B&B is sat on 100s of acres of valuable-on-paper land that are essential to the business being able to operate its not really comparable as they are unlikely to go over the threshold.

Plus unlike farmers most other businesses retire and sell the business on long before IHT becomes an issue

As I said, 18 pages.

Ah but the urbanities get their food from ASDA not farms so aren't affected 😁

Import quality is of concern. I haven't forgotten the horse meat scandal. Bleached chicken from USA. Vegetables from third world countries whose employees are treated appallingly. Food miles.

There's a lot to chew on if you really care about the welfare of humans and animals.

Well thanks to Brexit that is about to get a whole lot worse and the majority can’t afford to buy from Waitrose or local farm shops.

Eating less meat is what most of us are and will have to do.

And it’s not just urbanites who can’t afford Waitrose or farm shops. Those living in rural areas can be some of the poorest.

Farmers are well known for blocking/not maintaining footpaths, no one has suggested the public should be allowed to go into a farmyard.

Last year 33,000 cases of blocked rights of way/paths reported to English councils, who routinely do nothing as they ve not the funds.

Farm slurry & pesticide run off is a huge cause of river pollution, along with soil erosion, just because water companies also do it, doesn't make it right.

Exactly this

Arla controls most of the milk to supermarkets. The rest supermarkets import. Yes of course the supermarkets can import more milk but what about animal welfare abroad.

Also untrue, since it's 18 20 pages of everyone and their dog chipping in on both sides of the debate.

Are you planning to eat grains, at all?

Parliament. They’re full of it.

Thankfully one can buy grains quite cheaply and easily from a variety of outlets.