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AIBU to be ill?

57 replies

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 09:36

Backstory: I have a chronic illness which has been diagnosed for almost a decade. For transparency, it's endometriosis - I am sometimes bedbound with it and suffer a lot of pain and fatigue. I have had two surgeries and am on the pill as treatment but obviously these can only manage symptoms.

My SIL gave birth to my nephew just before my diagnosis. At the time I was still fairly functioning, except I wasn't really well enough to travel long distances (I couldn't make it to MIL's funeral because of a flare). We built a good relationship with the baby/toddler. She appointed us as his guardians. We visited them for weekends during the holidays (two hour journey). Sometimes they would visit us but just for the afternoon.

Over COVID my condition got worse. My mum went into hospital in 2021 and found out she had stage four secondary cancer. She was given six months but passed away three months later. She wanted a non-funeral, so we did a cremation with her closest two sisters, my uncle, me and DH present. We invited SIL and her partner but they didn't come.

I then had to sort out my mum's small estate (no siblings) and sell her house. So that year was very stressful and my illness got worse again. We tried to make it over to SIL for Xmas but it was too much for me. She was furious about this and when we called her she sat in silence and tears before screaming at us because our nephew was disappointed. I apologised a lot and things seemed to be ok afterwards. Nephew is now 7 and can understand reasons why people have to cancel things etc.

Last year, I had other health problems including a full gastro investigation due to cancer markers and a breast cancer scare which put me on the two week pathway. We tried to visit again but my body kept failing me. I was also getting anxiety about letting my nephew down which made it worse. A couple of times DH went to visit by himself. Finally, we meant to go during last October but couldn't because of floods in our area. SIL said it was fine, but a day later DH's dad phoned him and yelled down the phone that we needed to get our act together and stop disappointing my nephew. DH does not get on with his dad as he's xenophobic/racist and has never really shown love for him.

DH was angry, and upset after the phone call. I called SIL and told her again how I take full responsibility for all this despite being ill, I am trying so hard to manage my symptoms and do better but DH is just trying to balance everyone and it's not fair to tell him to fix it. I said I thought she understood that I was ill.She raised her voice and went into a rage at me. She said:

-No, I don't understand at all.
-You need to listen and you need to look long and hard at yourself and how everyone else sees you.
-You need to fucking sort it out, fucking sort yourself out, I don't care.

When I tried to calmly get a word in she just kept screaming. She said the previous Xmas I had treated them with huge disrespect and I disrespect everyone constantly.
She then told me I had always been like this, that I manipulate people, that I manipulate DH She said 'don't you dare tell me it's all in my head, don't ever say that to any of my family, or DH.' I asked what she meant and she said I put things in his head. She said I was the reason DH didn't visit his DM enough when she had cancer (he was actually avoiding his DF, it was a 5 hour journey and we had no car, and his relationship with his parents has been distant for a long time, they never called him, never visited ever since he moved away to uni etc - none of these things are anything to do with me).

DH overheard what SIL said and took the phone from me. She kept talking about me to him. For some reason she wasn't finished destroying me. She said I was spoiled, immature and she was convinced I'm lying about being ill because 'my symptoms are always different' (they're not, I just have a lot of symptoms). She said she hates me coming to stay because I sometimes bring my own food (just different bread or milk because I have dietary intolerances) and she finds it very rude and offensive.DH said she had no empathy and hung up.

She never approached to mend things even though we sent apologies for our part. She was visiting our town a few months later and asked to meet DH but did not apologise and just said (shouted) the same things she had said on the phone. DH eventually walked away.

Since then we have gradually been able to speak to SIL's partner (she knows about it) and have video calls with my nephew. SIL's partner seems to think she has overreacted but doesn't know what else to do about it. The big fallout was a year ago and she hasn't spoken a word to me or been on a call since that time.

I feel like she has always hated me even before I got ill, but we used to get along and she would send nice messages for my birthday etc so I feel it's probably my fault and I fucked up. Their dad also has several illnesses so I thought that kind of thing was understood but they've never seemed to grasp it with my stuff.

I will also add that we planned to have our own children but my endometriosis gave me fertility issues and we decided not to pursue IVF when we were offered it because I am now almost 40 and it seemed a big ordeal to go through. SIL knows this and that our relationship with our nephew has been both wonderful and sad knowing we can't have our own child.

Anyway, apologies for the long post but I guess I'm just asking if IABU? At this point I don't know if we'll ever see my nephew in person again.

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DoctorAngelface · 11/11/2024 09:48

She doesn't sound like a very nice person. I recommend being civil only with her in future. What she's said to you is totally unacceptable.

I can understand her being upset if she's worried about her DS being disappointed. But in no way does that justify her behaviour.

I've got a chronic illness of my own. I'm flabbergasted that anyone would treat you like you were ill for the sake of inconveniencing them.

J1Dub · 11/11/2024 09:54

She sounds like a lunatic.

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 09:55

DoctorAngelface · 11/11/2024 09:48

She doesn't sound like a very nice person. I recommend being civil only with her in future. What she's said to you is totally unacceptable.

I can understand her being upset if she's worried about her DS being disappointed. But in no way does that justify her behaviour.

I've got a chronic illness of my own. I'm flabbergasted that anyone would treat you like you were ill for the sake of inconveniencing them.

Thank you. It is crazy and I can't get my head around it.

Interesting that the poll already says 50% that I'm being unreasonable!

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VegTrug · 11/11/2024 10:00

I’m sorry I couldn’t read all of that but just echoing others and saying get her out of your life

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:00

J1Dub · 11/11/2024 09:54

She sounds like a lunatic.

Haha! That's where DH is at with it.

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:00

VegTrug · 11/11/2024 10:00

I’m sorry I couldn’t read all of that but just echoing others and saying get her out of your life

I appreciate it was very long. Thank you for the support xx

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DoctorAngelface · 11/11/2024 10:09

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 09:55

Thank you. It is crazy and I can't get my head around it.

Interesting that the poll already says 50% that I'm being unreasonable!

I noticed that too with the poll but I really can't see how you've been unreasonable. Even if I was playing devil's advocate, I still don't see the justification for you being in the wrong.

She sounds like a right cow to me tbh!

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:12

DoctorAngelface · 11/11/2024 10:09

I noticed that too with the poll but I really can't see how you've been unreasonable. Even if I was playing devil's advocate, I still don't see the justification for you being in the wrong.

She sounds like a right cow to me tbh!

People will hit the poll button and run I guess!

She is a... difficult person and DH is the first one to say so!

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cheezncrackers · 11/11/2024 10:17

I can't work out from your OP whether your SIL is stupid or just deeply unpleasant. Either way, her behaviour is utterly toxic and lacking in any kind of empathy - does she take after her father? I think I'd keep contact with her to the bare minimum necessary to maintain a relationship with your nephew.

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:19

cheezncrackers · 11/11/2024 10:17

I can't work out from your OP whether your SIL is stupid or just deeply unpleasant. Either way, her behaviour is utterly toxic and lacking in any kind of empathy - does she take after her father? I think I'd keep contact with her to the bare minimum necessary to maintain a relationship with your nephew.

Very intelligent, has a high earning job, just unpleasant. She does take after her father.
Yes, at the moment keeping up these video calls as they are.

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usernamedifferent · 11/11/2024 10:20

I think for your own health and well-being you’d be better off trying to come to terms with the fact that you will never have a good relationship with her and in turn that may mean your nephew. She sounds like she lacks empathy and it’s all about her.

I would keep being polite and civil and send cards etc to nephew and hope that as he grows up he wants a relationship with you and your DH.

As someone with illnesses myself that present in different ways, I can understand the frustration when people think you’re just making excuses. I’d do anything to be 100% well and be able to go anywhere anytime.

buffyspikefaith · 11/11/2024 10:22

She does sound like a lunatic

Endo is so hard, people often think it's just on your period too
I had to ring 999 the other day for it and I wasn't even on my period (stage 4 and adenomyosis)
People think painkillers work but I had maxed out everything and was still yelling in pain Flowers

AlteredStater · 11/11/2024 10:31

Let's hope she never gets a chronic illness herself and finds out what it's really like! Honestly OP, that is shocking treatment from her.

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/11/2024 10:36

She sounds like a self centred spiteful cow. I wonder if you or your DH might find the stately home threads helpful as it sounds like SIL is the golden child and DH and you by extension are the scapegoat. I'd lay off the apologies, it will only make her feel more justified. You didn't choose to be sick so you don't need to apologise for it, its not your fault.

Leavesandacorns · 11/11/2024 10:38

She sounds horrible and you have done nothing wrong... but does your DH not visit his nephew without you? Not on Christmas Day, but at other times?

I would never excuse shouting and carrying on, but I would be deeply hurt if my sibling didn't spend any time with me/my child because their partner was ill (obviously with exceptions for terminal illness etc).

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/11/2024 10:39

AlteredStater · 11/11/2024 10:31

Let's hope she never gets a chronic illness herself and finds out what it's really like! Honestly OP, that is shocking treatment from her.

I expect if she got a chronic illness she'd ring up and scream at her brother and OP regularly about how they are letting her nephew down by not supporting her more in her illness and how her brother and OP are just making up lies about OPs health to try and excuse the fact they aren't supporting her the way they should. People like this don't learn or change.

museumum · 11/11/2024 10:39

your husband's family sounds quite disfunctional and sil is taking this out on you rather than face reality. Did i understand right that your dh didn't see much of his dying mother because he was avoiding his father? that's very disfunctional, not your fault but how does your sil not know this? do your dh and his sister not talk about their df? are they not on the same page? i can see why she would be angry with your dh but she does seem to be taking it out on you rather then him.

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:45

usernamedifferent · 11/11/2024 10:20

I think for your own health and well-being you’d be better off trying to come to terms with the fact that you will never have a good relationship with her and in turn that may mean your nephew. She sounds like she lacks empathy and it’s all about her.

I would keep being polite and civil and send cards etc to nephew and hope that as he grows up he wants a relationship with you and your DH.

As someone with illnesses myself that present in different ways, I can understand the frustration when people think you’re just making excuses. I’d do anything to be 100% well and be able to go anywhere anytime.

Yes, it's getting that way.

We are still sending cards and presents, never stopped. Nephew seems happy to chat on the phone and we have given him advice on school stuff and things when he asked.

Insanely frustrating just wanting to live normally!

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:47

buffyspikefaith · 11/11/2024 10:22

She does sound like a lunatic

Endo is so hard, people often think it's just on your period too
I had to ring 999 the other day for it and I wasn't even on my period (stage 4 and adenomyosis)
People think painkillers work but I had maxed out everything and was still yelling in pain Flowers

Yeah, I think she thought this, though I have explained numerous times in the past how it works. She actually said to DH 'if X is that ill, shouldn't she be in the hospital?' Lol.

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:48

AlteredStater · 11/11/2024 10:31

Let's hope she never gets a chronic illness herself and finds out what it's really like! Honestly OP, that is shocking treatment from her.

Thanks. Yeah I think she can't comprehend it at all!

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:48

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/11/2024 10:36

She sounds like a self centred spiteful cow. I wonder if you or your DH might find the stately home threads helpful as it sounds like SIL is the golden child and DH and you by extension are the scapegoat. I'd lay off the apologies, it will only make her feel more justified. You didn't choose to be sick so you don't need to apologise for it, its not your fault.

I've been meaning to read those threads more in depth. Thank you xx

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Mnetcurious · 11/11/2024 10:51

I can’t understand how anyone has voted yabu - you’re not. It sounds like this is all your SIL’s issue and you’re trying your very best under difficult circumstances. The only thing you can do is accept that she doesn’t operate normally and continue to try your best for a relationship with your nephew where possible.

unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:52

Leavesandacorns · 11/11/2024 10:38

She sounds horrible and you have done nothing wrong... but does your DH not visit his nephew without you? Not on Christmas Day, but at other times?

I would never excuse shouting and carrying on, but I would be deeply hurt if my sibling didn't spend any time with me/my child because their partner was ill (obviously with exceptions for terminal illness etc).

Yes, he does. He has visited there to play games with nephew and have lunch etc. SIL isn't really a 'spend time with sibling' person to be fair though. She is very closed off emotionally and DH has never had a proper bond with her for this reason. They have never hung out together independently as adults.

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:53

Leavesandacorns · 11/11/2024 10:38

She sounds horrible and you have done nothing wrong... but does your DH not visit his nephew without you? Not on Christmas Day, but at other times?

I would never excuse shouting and carrying on, but I would be deeply hurt if my sibling didn't spend any time with me/my child because their partner was ill (obviously with exceptions for terminal illness etc).

Forgot to add sorry that a couple of times he had to stay to take care of me because I was feeling that bad.

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unreasonableendo · 11/11/2024 10:53

EliflurtleAndTheInfiniteMadness · 11/11/2024 10:39

I expect if she got a chronic illness she'd ring up and scream at her brother and OP regularly about how they are letting her nephew down by not supporting her more in her illness and how her brother and OP are just making up lies about OPs health to try and excuse the fact they aren't supporting her the way they should. People like this don't learn or change.

Haha, I imagine this would be the case honestly.

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