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AIBU to think DD might as well learn to drive on an automatic car?

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whiteroseredrose · 10/11/2024 18:54

DD is 21 and has not yet learned to drive. The plan is to learn next summer when she finishes university.

Problem is that DH and I both have hybrid cars that are automatic. I couldn't find a hybrid manual car as they probably don't exist.

Rather than have DD take lessons in.a manual car with either no practice in between or practice in our automatics, take that test and then maybe do a 'conversion' at a later date.

Would that make sense?

OP posts:
Tryingtokeepgoing · 12/11/2024 13:46

zingally · 12/11/2024 09:42

I think we've still got a good few years yet of manuals being dominant in the market, but perhaps only another 10.

I've only ever driven manuals, but I know a couple of friends who made the switch to automatics and absolutely rave about them. "Would never go back to manual" is a phrase I hear often.

They’re not dominant now, never mind in 10:years time. Less than a quarter of new car models on sale today are available in as manuals, and by volume 62% of new cars sold are automatic (source SMMT). Indeed, this article states that manual cars can be worth as much as 21% less second hand. Which does at least make them cheap to buy. But that’s because fewer people want them.

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/is-it-the-end-of-the-road-for-manual-gearboxes-as-their-used-car-residual-values-tumble/302918#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20SMMT%20figures%20show%20that,only%20offered%20with%20automatic%20gearboxes.

Is it the end of the road for manual gearboxes as their used car residual values tumble? – Car Dealer Magazine

Residual values of used cars with manual transmission are in decline, with some models worth as much as 21% less than their automatic equivalents and

https://cardealermagazine.co.uk/publish/is-it-the-end-of-the-road-for-manual-gearboxes-as-their-used-car-residual-values-tumble/302918#:~:text=Meanwhile%2C%20SMMT%20figures%20show%20that,only%20offered%20with%20automatic%20gearboxes.

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 14:49

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 09:38

Driving is hardly comparable to A level subjects now is it.

Its a more useful skill

Mosalahiwoukd · 12/11/2024 15:57

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 09:57

the gears are the least of it when you’re learning to drive.

Not from my memory - which might be faulty given I passed my test nearly 40 years ago. Clutch control and gear changes were the most difficult aspects of controlling a car. Technology has moved on and manuals are increasingly becoming obsolete. We stopped using the abacus a long time ago too.

Road awareness, watching out for other cars, getting used to being in a vehicle big enough to hurt pedestrians or hit other vehicles, driving on dual carriage ways, in busy areas with traffic and lots of speed changes or zebra crossings or parked vehicles, judging distances, speeds in different conditions, learning how to use roundabouts, turning across traffic on big junctions, parallel parking… just some of the things many people would find more challenging than finding ‘biting’ point …

DanielaDressen · 12/11/2024 16:32

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 14:49

Its a more useful skill

Ot if you only drive an automatic 😁. It’s a totally unnecessary skill. Whereas having A levels even if you don’t use the subject helps when job hunting I guess.

Flumoxed · 12/11/2024 16:35

Yes, skipnit abd go straight to automatic.

I learned in a manual but now drive an automatic. I think I would really struggle to remember how to drive a manual now. Wish I had just gone straight to automatic. Would have saved me a fortune in lessons and tests (failed driving test twice). I have no intention of driving a manual ever again.

SoupDragon · 12/11/2024 16:39

Flumoxed · 12/11/2024 16:35

Yes, skipnit abd go straight to automatic.

I learned in a manual but now drive an automatic. I think I would really struggle to remember how to drive a manual now. Wish I had just gone straight to automatic. Would have saved me a fortune in lessons and tests (failed driving test twice). I have no intention of driving a manual ever again.

So you failed your tests purely on gear changing?

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 16:45

Mosalahiwoukd · 12/11/2024 15:57

Road awareness, watching out for other cars, getting used to being in a vehicle big enough to hurt pedestrians or hit other vehicles, driving on dual carriage ways, in busy areas with traffic and lots of speed changes or zebra crossings or parked vehicles, judging distances, speeds in different conditions, learning how to use roundabouts, turning across traffic on big junctions, parallel parking… just some of the things many people would find more challenging than finding ‘biting’ point …

None of those things are anything to do with controlling the car which is why I was quite specific in my post.

pooballs · 12/11/2024 16:51

I will be interested to see how it is when my own kids are older.

Apparently they predict the last person to take a manual driving test will be born in 2 years, so that would suggest a big decline of manual even before that point.

superplumb · 12/11/2024 16:53

Learn manual. My dad gas an auto now and was given a manual courtesy car. He said it was like learning to drive all over again.

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 16:54

DanielaDressen · 12/11/2024 16:32

Ot if you only drive an automatic 😁. It’s a totally unnecessary skill. Whereas having A levels even if you don’t use the subject helps when job hunting I guess.

Not for me as a delivery driver lol

DanielaDressen · 12/11/2024 16:57

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 16:54

Not for me as a delivery driver lol

You never know, at my place you can’t get an admin job without a degree.

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 18:55

DanielaDressen · 12/11/2024 16:57

You never know, at my place you can’t get an admin job without a degree.

Im 53. The stuff you need degrees for now in some places you could get on O levels

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 12/11/2024 21:42

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:28

Why restrict yourself to learning something just because ' you don't have to".

One of my A levels was in English Lit. It's not something I needed to do not used since really. Should I not have bothered learning? People take lessons in things all the time that they don't "have to"

Do you have a boat licence? You don't have to, but it might come in handy one day.

SoupDragon · 12/11/2024 22:42

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 12/11/2024 21:42

Do you have a boat licence? You don't have to, but it might come in handy one day.

Yeah, because learning how to control an entirely different vehicle is exactly the same as learning to drive a manual car and boats are just as common as cars on the highways and byways of the U.K

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 12/11/2024 23:39

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 12/11/2024 21:42

Do you have a boat licence? You don't have to, but it might come in handy one day.

I was responding to a poster who was drawing a comparison between driving a manual and studying English Lit. I'm glad you were also able to see my sarcasm aimed at the ridiculousness of comparing two unrelated things.

(ETA: Responding to you @SoupDragon , sorry for the muddled quoting.)

Flumoxed · 13/11/2024 09:22

SoupDragon · 12/11/2024 16:39

So you failed your tests purely on gear changing?

I failed my test on not indicating properly at a roundabout, but if wasn't changing gear I would've had fewer things for my hands to do, so perhaps I would've passed quicker 🤷‍♀️

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