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AIBU to think DD might as well learn to drive on an automatic car?

316 replies

whiteroseredrose · 10/11/2024 18:54

DD is 21 and has not yet learned to drive. The plan is to learn next summer when she finishes university.

Problem is that DH and I both have hybrid cars that are automatic. I couldn't find a hybrid manual car as they probably don't exist.

Rather than have DD take lessons in.a manual car with either no practice in between or practice in our automatics, take that test and then maybe do a 'conversion' at a later date.

Would that make sense?

OP posts:
DecafDodger · 11/11/2024 21:32

it's still worth the effort to learn how to drive a manual car.
If it means OP needs to buy another car, or it takes a lot longer for the DD to learn to drive, as she has no car to practice with, I don't think it's actually worth it.
As one pp posted, half the used cars on the market are automatics. I just checked another random location and random week, in Riga airport you have 172 automatic and 131 manual cars available, and cheapest automatic costs you 8 EUR more than cheapest manual, for a week. So I really don't think the narrative that automatic only is so expensive and restricive is really true any more.

Sugarnspicenallthingsnaice · 11/11/2024 21:33

Thepurplepig · 11/11/2024 18:47

And if you cannot manage that you shouldn’t be on the road

This thread is just bizarre.

Are you genuinely saying that if someone hasn't yet learned the skills to drive a different type of vehicle to the one they are actually driving, they shouldn't be on the road?

Should everyone have a motorcycle and a heavy vehicle licence too? You never know what kind of emergency a Mumsnetter will imagine next.

KimberleyClark · 11/11/2024 21:37

Thepurplepig · 11/11/2024 18:47

And if you cannot manage that you shouldn’t be on the road

I learned in a manual. But if people find it easier in an auto just what is the problem? They are not harming anyone else.

CautiousLurker1 · 11/11/2024 22:16

Loving the arguments about how manuals are cheaper to buy and maintain… when the point is that the OP doesn’t have a manual and has no intention of buying an additional car. The OP’s daughter would be driving Op’s existing non-manual cars… so only needs an automatic licence at this stage.

category12 · 11/11/2024 22:20

CautiousLurker1 · 11/11/2024 22:16

Loving the arguments about how manuals are cheaper to buy and maintain… when the point is that the OP doesn’t have a manual and has no intention of buying an additional car. The OP’s daughter would be driving Op’s existing non-manual cars… so only needs an automatic licence at this stage.

There's nothing to stop her dd practising with her parents' automatics but doing lessons & her test with a manual, so that she has greater options when she comes to buy her own car.

Seems daft not to unless OP intends to get her to test level herself.

echt · 11/11/2024 22:23

category12 · 11/11/2024 22:20

There's nothing to stop her dd practising with her parents' automatics but doing lessons & her test with a manual, so that she has greater options when she comes to buy her own car.

Seems daft not to unless OP intends to get her to test level herself.

You beat me to it.

SoupDragon · 11/11/2024 23:11

CautiousLurker1 · 11/11/2024 22:16

Loving the arguments about how manuals are cheaper to buy and maintain… when the point is that the OP doesn’t have a manual and has no intention of buying an additional car. The OP’s daughter would be driving Op’s existing non-manual cars… so only needs an automatic licence at this stage.

It doesn't matter that the OP doesnt intend to buy a new car. She isn't the one learning. The DD will buy and own her own car at some point.

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:10

isitxmasalready · 10/11/2024 20:12

I passed in a manual but have driven automatic cars for years. DS is learning in an automatic and doing an automatic test. The majority of his friends are also doing automatic only too. I don’t believe it will restrict him in the future. It’s easy to hire an automatic both in the UK and abroad, and like a pp said, you wouldn’t be insured on someone else’s car to drive it in an emergency anyway.

Most people do have third party insurance to drive other cars though 20 year old DS Is only one I know who doesn't YET

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:13

DecafDodger · 11/11/2024 21:32

it's still worth the effort to learn how to drive a manual car.
If it means OP needs to buy another car, or it takes a lot longer for the DD to learn to drive, as she has no car to practice with, I don't think it's actually worth it.
As one pp posted, half the used cars on the market are automatics. I just checked another random location and random week, in Riga airport you have 172 automatic and 131 manual cars available, and cheapest automatic costs you 8 EUR more than cheapest manual, for a week. So I really don't think the narrative that automatic only is so expensive and restricive is really true any more.

Riga is a random choice. How is the auto/ manual car hire situation in Spain for example? Much more likely to be hiring a car there

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:14

KimberleyClark · 11/11/2024 16:59

It’s not just operating the gear lever though is it, it’s clutch control, avoiding stalling the engine,hill starts (you can’t stall the engine or roll backwards in an auto).

That doesn't take long to learn though. One or 2 lessons max

DanielaDressen · 12/11/2024 09:16

She can always take a manual test later on if she wants

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 09:24

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:14

That doesn't take long to learn though. One or 2 lessons max

But you don’t have to. It’s not actually necessary. Why are manual drivers so virtuous about it? It’s highly likely that only being able to drive an auto is not going to cause the OP’s DD any issues at all.

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:25

PrimitivePerson · 11/11/2024 13:46

A lot of the people here saying "everyone drives automatics" and "you can't buy manual cars anymore" clearly live in privileged bubbles where they're able to buy or lease brand-new, premium-brand cars every couple of years.

A lot of us can't afford to do that.

Yeah my DS has a 11 reg Peugeot. It's manual.TBH when looking at the cars around the £1500 budget he had I don't recall seeing many autos available.

His friend has an auto but that's a 23 reg provided by mummy and daddy

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:28

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 09:24

But you don’t have to. It’s not actually necessary. Why are manual drivers so virtuous about it? It’s highly likely that only being able to drive an auto is not going to cause the OP’s DD any issues at all.

Why restrict yourself to learning something just because ' you don't have to".

One of my A levels was in English Lit. It's not something I needed to do not used since really. Should I not have bothered learning? People take lessons in things all the time that they don't "have to"

PrimitivePerson · 12/11/2024 09:36

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:25

Yeah my DS has a 11 reg Peugeot. It's manual.TBH when looking at the cars around the £1500 budget he had I don't recall seeing many autos available.

His friend has an auto but that's a 23 reg provided by mummy and daddy

Exactly, 10-15 years ago automatics were far less common, and any young driver paying for a car themselves is only going to be able to afford something that sort of age.

DecafDodger · 12/11/2024 09:38

Why restrict yourself to learning something just because ' you don't have to" People take lessons in things all the time that they don't "have to".

True, because they 'want to'. But if you don't have to, and don't want to, why waste time? OPs daughter could skip the manual she does not want or need, and use the time to do something she wants to - whether it's learning to fly or learning to play bagpipes.

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 09:38

Gogogo12345 · 12/11/2024 09:28

Why restrict yourself to learning something just because ' you don't have to".

One of my A levels was in English Lit. It's not something I needed to do not used since really. Should I not have bothered learning? People take lessons in things all the time that they don't "have to"

Driving is hardly comparable to A level subjects now is it.

KimberleyClark · 12/11/2024 09:40

I bet the people who disapprove of manual cars are the same people who disapprove of weight loss jabs/bariatric surgery. They view it as cheating.

DecafDodger · 12/11/2024 09:41

How is the auto/ manual car hire situation in Spain for example? Much more likely to be hiring a car there

I posted Alicante earlier on this thread. Randomly chosen week, they have 196 manual cars and 184 automatics available. Price difference for that random week: 15 EUR.

zingally · 12/11/2024 09:42

I think we've still got a good few years yet of manuals being dominant in the market, but perhaps only another 10.

I've only ever driven manuals, but I know a couple of friends who made the switch to automatics and absolutely rave about them. "Would never go back to manual" is a phrase I hear often.

Mosalahiwoukd · 12/11/2024 09:43

No! Learn to drive properly now and have freedom of choice. She’s young, it won’t be hard.

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 09:46

Mosalahiwoukd · 12/11/2024 09:43

No! Learn to drive properly now and have freedom of choice. She’s young, it won’t be hard.

Do you really think those us of who drive automatics don’t drive “properly”? Seriously?

Mosalahiwoukd · 12/11/2024 09:51

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 09:46

Do you really think those us of who drive automatics don’t drive “properly”? Seriously?

Edited

Jesus, sensitive much! I drive an automatic.

But restricting yourself to an automatic licence means not being able to drive anyone’s car if it’s manual, paying more for car hire, not being able to drive anything larger than a car for the most part.

So yes, learn to use a gear stick, the gears are the least of it when you’re learning to drive.

GasPanic · 12/11/2024 09:57

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 09:46

Do you really think those us of who drive automatics don’t drive “properly”? Seriously?

Edited

I wouldn't go as far as to say that.

I do think though a lot of people go for automatic only licences because they find driving difficult, and that someone who holds an automatic licence only is certified a less capable driver than someone who holds a manual one.

That is kind of self evident in the respect manual licence holders can drive either automatics or manuals, whereas automatic licence holders can only drive automatics.

BIossomtoes · 12/11/2024 09:57

the gears are the least of it when you’re learning to drive.

Not from my memory - which might be faulty given I passed my test nearly 40 years ago. Clutch control and gear changes were the most difficult aspects of controlling a car. Technology has moved on and manuals are increasingly becoming obsolete. We stopped using the abacus a long time ago too.

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