Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To think Justin Welby Archbishop of Canterbury must resign/be charged TW CSA.

120 replies

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 10/11/2024 13:02

Justin Welby knew in 2013 about a prolific child abuser.

He did nothing

"I personally failed to ensure that after disclosure in 2013 the awful tragedy was energetically investigated."

He is not resigning, he should be bloody charged with aiding and abetting. The abuser was allowed to move to Africa and continue to abuse.

This is the Archbishop of Canterbury.

https://news.sky.com/story/archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-considered-resigning-over-appalling-barrister-abuse-scandal-13250363

Archbishop of Canterbury Justin Welby considered resigning over 'appalling' barrister abuse scandal

John Smyth QC's abuse was covered up within the Church of England for years, an independent review found.

https://news.sky.com/story/archbishop-of-canterbury-justin-welby-considered-resigning-over-appalling-barrister-abuse-scandal-13250363

OP posts:
Thread gallery
5
username7891 · 12/11/2024 14:16

He's resigned and all the others who did know about the abuse remain in place. The church will consider this done and dusted and moved on.

Sarahconnor1 · 12/11/2024 14:17

About time

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:20

He's resigned. He did nothing about the paedophile therfore complicit in his crimes. The church cannot just sweep this under the carpet there needs to be an enquiry and outside agencies investigating any further claims. They cannot be allowed to conduct internal investigations as they protect their own.

VegTrug · 12/11/2024 14:22

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ HE wasn’t the one committing SA ffs it was John Smyth. Wow. I wondered how long it was going to be before people misunderstood and started accusing him of what Smyth did

VegTrug · 12/11/2024 14:24

Poor bloke

LilacLilyBird · 12/11/2024 14:25

So it was reported to the police more than once for them to investigate

SallyForf · 12/11/2024 14:27

hanahsaunt · 12/11/2024 14:12

He's gone

Good.

ErrolTheDragon · 12/11/2024 14:49

VegTrug · 12/11/2024 14:24

Poor bloke

Nah. He could, and should, have done a lot more earlier.

My sympathy is all for his victims.

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 14:51

VegTrug · 12/11/2024 14:24

Poor bloke

Are you being deliberately obtuse or just a bit hard of understanding?

He knew of the paedophile but did NOTHING about it allowing the paedophile to go on to abuse other boys.
Honestly what is with defending this man.
I never said he actually abused the boys but he did nothing to stop it continuing. If anyone is misunderstanding anything it's you.

MaiAamWaliHun · 12/11/2024 14:56

I can't believe this is still happening. Such things have been outed so many times but abuse and cover ups are still going on. I watched The Keepers on Netflix (highly recommended) and it is such a sad and infuriating story. The priest in question there was never held to account, just moved around and continued to abuse. People still protecting these abusers even today.

CakeByTheSea · 12/11/2024 15:05

Good to see he has resigned although he should have been fired.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2024 15:06

I can't believe this is still happening

I can Sad

Occasionally there'll be a forced departure fed to the public like a scrap to a dog, but the fundamentals don't change and very obviously churches regard any suggestion of accountability with distaste

Worse still there are some so blinkered by the glory (?Confused) of it all that even the worst criminality is minimised, and so it continues

Edited to add I had to smile at the BBC's report that "King Charles - the supreme governor of the Church of England - exchanged private words with Justin Welby through intermediaries this morning"

Wonder if he's wittered on about the "monstrous wrongs" done to Welby too?

SinnerBoy · 12/11/2024 15:08

Thedogscollar · Today 14:20

He's resigned.

I've just seen that and was coming to post it. It's a scandal that he wasn't stripped of his position and was allowed to saunter off.

GinnyPiggie · 12/11/2024 15:13

Now the church has the challenge of finding a senior Bishop who doesn't have any sort of history with child sex abuse, or signing off on a cover up. I genuinely doubt there are any left, purely because it was the normal process in the 90s and beforehand.

Maybe a female Bishop, someone younger?

Thedogscollar · 12/11/2024 15:13

SinnerBoy · 12/11/2024 15:08

Thedogscollar · Today 14:20

He's resigned.

I've just seen that and was coming to post it. It's a scandal that he wasn't stripped of his position and was allowed to saunter off.

I know it's pathetic there shoukd be an independent enquiry as more than him knew too.
The church, not even safe there.

MrsKwazi · 12/11/2024 15:20

This weekend he said in an interview he took advice from senior colleagues who said he should not resign. I’d love to know the names of those senior colleagues.

mitogoshigg · 12/11/2024 15:32

@GinnyPiggie

Sarah mullally, bishop of London and former chief nursing officer.

She's pretty high church I believe but I think squeaky clean partly because she came into the church later, after the rules were tightened.

mitogoshigg · 12/11/2024 15:34

I do feel for Justin Welby as it was reported to the police and they simply didn't act at all reasonable speed, apparently the c of e reported it a second time before they even started to investigate. The main mistakes are in the past before his time

GinnyPiggie · 12/11/2024 15:35

mitogoshigg · 12/11/2024 15:32

@GinnyPiggie

Sarah mullally, bishop of London and former chief nursing officer.

She's pretty high church I believe but I think squeaky clean partly because she came into the church later, after the rules were tightened.

Yes, I think it will need to be a female priest who will largely all have come in after these scandals were considered business-as-usual: and will probably be more likely to see them for what they are. One can hope, anyway.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 12/11/2024 15:44

Also wondering how the victims will feel about his self-described plan to continue meeting with them ...

Combattingthemoaners · 12/11/2024 15:45

100% he should. Absolutely sick to the back teeth of the Church enabling abusers. It’s systemic.

tobee · 12/11/2024 15:50

Ytcsghisn · 12/11/2024 08:26

Why is it that these wokesters who lecture the public most about social justice have the most rotten skeletons in their closet? This guy has been going on non stop about slavery reparations and immigration plans being evil and nazi like.

Edited

Let's not depend that it's only the left that have rotten skeletons in the closet. That's pretty laughable.

Projectme · 12/11/2024 15:54

He shouldn't have had the opportunity to resign, he should have been sacked. Yet another awful disgusting man hiding a sex predator in plain sight

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 12/11/2024 15:54

VegTrug · 12/11/2024 14:22

🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ HE wasn’t the one committing SA ffs it was John Smyth. Wow. I wondered how long it was going to be before people misunderstood and started accusing him of what Smyth did

'Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing'

JS Mill

OP posts:
readingmakesmehappy · 12/11/2024 15:58

mitogoshigg · 12/11/2024 15:32

@GinnyPiggie

Sarah mullally, bishop of London and former chief nursing officer.

She's pretty high church I believe but I think squeaky clean partly because she came into the church later, after the rules were tightened.

She was the church's lead on Covid (ex nurse) and so the disastrous and stupid policy of total closure during the lockdowns is her fault. It has lost the church thousands of worshippers who got out of the habit of going and have never gone back. It also meant the church did not offer solace and succour in a time of trial when it was desperately needed. Not her.

Swipe left for the next trending thread