If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

[Mokel]

Every Remembrance Sunday and Nov 11th, when I worked at retail, we did a tannoy announcement with 5 min, 2 min before to inform customers that the store will be observing the 2 min silence. Then another to start it.

Every time there were customers who kept talking. Plus one time a woman in her 50s shouted “why can’t anyone serve me some fucking fags?” Everyone just looked at her. Some had the courage to say how disrespectful she was once the silence ended.

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

Why would anybody for whom this was actually important though, actively choose to be around people? I mean, it's for two minutes. You want deadly silence for two minutes. If it mattered to me I would be anywhere where other people were not. It makes me think that it's about needing to be around others and controlling what they do, making sure that they perform in the same way as you do. You'll never get people at large to do what you say you want so why not remove yourself?

I'm not including shop assistants in that as it seems that if you're not in a major supermarket you can't just move away from your till for two minutes. I would ask for my break at 1055 and return anytime after 1102. I can't think of any other solution if you absolutely must be there and your shop carries on throughout.

Again, if this were just for those who fought in the WWs I don’t think anyone in the UK would object.

But there are UK citizens whose innocent family members were murdered by the British Army. So I think having to show respect to the British Army as a whole might hurt them, yes.

(Though it’s best to allow others show their respect as they wish imho.)

Most churches have services around that time and stop for the silence. ( mine doesn’t but there’s a reason there )
Most places have war memorials. People could stand there. People could ask the LA to put up a barrier if there’s a local problem with the location of the memorial.

If people have to need to stand outside their property to show their moment of reflection there’s no reason to not talk to the local councillors / MP if there’s no memorial available.

people are clearly passionate about this and I’m surprised something more workable hasn’t been set up by them or their local areas

If you wear a poppy, you are a poppy wearer. If you insist someoneelse wrars on, you're a poppy fascist.

I' am my ilk been called knobs and twats more than once on this thread. The disrespect is certainly flowing from the other direction.

Which is weird as the insults and name calling are from those who want to reflect and respect
oo the irony

You choose to attend/ do those things, so nomprallel with people wanting other people to validatevthire two-minute silence. A parallel would bevme standing in thr toqn centre and insusting on everybody singing Happy Birthday to me.

You're not being asked to love them. You're literally being asked not to disturb other people for TWO WHOLE MINUTES PER YEAR.

So your 'ilk' can be disrespectful to those who are observing the silence just because they disagree with it? To be honest, anyone who chooses not to wait 2 minutes is a knob. That's not directed at you personally, it's a general observation.

One question, how do you feel about other silences, e.g. if you were at a theatre or sporting event? I didn't observe the silence for Covid victims or, further back, for Princess Diana but I wouldn't have interrupted those who did. (That's a genuine question BTW)

I cannot fathom the mentality of someone to whom it means so much to do the two-minute silence/ contemplation thing, that they choose to do it in a supermarket! If it really means that much to you, do it somewhere whete you know you will get the experience you want!

If the OP and her ilk take anything from this thread, it should be that a lot of people do not do the two-minute silence, for a variety of reasons. Therefore, next year, as a member of a learning-animal species, they should not be surprised and disappointed if their ritual is again disrupted by the general population, and, if it is that important to them, they will stay home to perform it.

We're literally being asked to stay home if we don't want to join in the performance, or interrupt what we're doing so as not to upset the two-minute silencers. No - YOU stay home!

They regard me as disrespecting them because I don't share their rituals. I don't think I'm disrespecting anyone - I'm just getting on with my shopping.

Not quite the same, the woman was in a shop, not at a remembrance service.

I personally think it’s turned into a bit of right wing/British Nationalist propaganda and I’m a bit sick of it being rammed down my throat at every opportunity. I wouldn’t behave the way the woman in the OP did though.

I think it’s unreasonable to ask people, affected by the British army’s actions, to be considerate to those having a 2 minute silence as a mark of respect for the same army.

Everyone is going round in circles and I don’t think both sides will ever agree tbh.

If you look back to the pp you’ll see why I said that!

Not bothered about them
They are not for The British Armed forces.

Surely that’s obvious

No you aren't. If the OP made a post asking people who can't eat a meal without making loud phone calls and belching rudely to eat at home instead of going to restaurants, would you say she was trying to ban you from restaurants?

If you hate the "British Armed Forces" so much, why do you live in the UK?

Wonder if anyone will start looking at suitable places for reflection, like our local area do.
So they are never disturbed again…. Think it will come to it soon

This thread at least clearly shows the need.

Not to mention the (at least) hundreds of British Soldiers who having gone to pieces, were shot for cowardice by other British Soldiers under orders. There are many hypocrisies hidden in the jumped-up patriotism of all this.

Wow! You’ll be saying “if you don’t like Brexit, leave the country” next! 🙄

🤣
Do we all love everyone in the country we live in…did all the Tory haters leave, have all the Labour haters left

Thats such a weird thing to stay

( As an aside, given that the English took everything from our family many were forced to leave with nothing. …… Thanks Trevalyan!
Others starved or were killed before, then and more recently
My family had nothing left, all confiscated )

I don’t like the weather in Scotland, wonder if I can leave…

😂

Obviously you should leave
how dare you stay 🤣

To an extent I agree.

If someone feels that strongly about actions of the British Army, their values probably don’t align with that of the British culture and I can’t see how they would be happy here.

If someone doesn’t agree with the British Army and therefore won’t do the two minute silence but still respect others rights to do so, that is different and a more balanced way to look at something you dislike, but put up with.

I don’t think there’s a one size fits all culture in the UK.

Where I live in Scotland I’m very happy, there’s plenty of people with similar values in my area (and further).