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If you don’t want to observe two minute silence- don’t be out

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Mokel · 10/11/2024 08:46

Every Remembrance Sunday and Nov 11th, when I worked at retail, we did a tannoy announcement with 5 min, 2 min before to inform customers that the store will be observing the 2 min silence. Then another to start it.

Every time there were customers who kept talking. Plus one time a woman in her 50s shouted “why can’t anyone serve me some fucking fags?” Everyone just looked at her. Some had the courage to say how disrespectful she was once the silence ended.

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

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theilltemperedqueenofspacetime · 10/11/2024 11:01

I like that it happens everywhere, even the supermarket or the airport. Its transcendent.

The gun has been fired. 🤐🤫

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:01

Is talking on the internet allowed?

Alphaalga · 10/11/2024 11:02

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StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:04

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 10:54

Most of us are definitely speaking from the luxury of not being alive at a time when our liberty or our country's borders are under threat.

Edited

Although lots on here might be.
Im thinking the Irish, for example.

MuchuseasaChocolateTeapot · 10/11/2024 11:04

Ratfinkstinkypink · 10/11/2024 09:26

I observe it but it I find it impossible to make sure my 4 year old with epilepsy and dystonia does too. I mean, if I had a magic switch which would turn off his pain when his seizures or pain, both of which can make him scream, come then I would use it. Permanently. But he doesn't, so I can't. Doesn't mean I feel like I need to hide him away though. Not today nor any other day.

I’m sure you understand that’s not what @Mokel meant. She means those who are flagrantly breaking the silence that is important to the vast majority.

I am so sorry for what your son and you are going through, no-one would expect him to be silent in any circumstances.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:06

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 11:01

I'm assuming you were born before 1998?

I was born at a time and in a place when the threat of war and the potential loss of liberty was probably at it's lowest.

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 11:07

Our borders weren't in danger in 1998 any more than they were through all the years that the IRA were active. Acts of terrorism don't equate to invasion.

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:07

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:04

Although lots on here might be.
Im thinking the Irish, for example.

Yes, of course.

SweeperShoe · 10/11/2024 11:09

Bloody typical... There I am, reading an entertaining thread about the recent performativeness of the 2 minute silence in a garden centre café, chomping away at a nice vegan fry up, enjoying the ping ponging of arguments, and realising suddenly that the Muzak had stopped, everyone had frozen whatever they were doing, forks halfway up, gentlemen mid pushing chairs under their partners' bottom, gentlemen's partners' bottoms half seated, someone paused in the doorway letting the fricking cold air in .... and unpause, the fallen sufficiently honoured, forks in mouths, bottoms on seats and doors finally closed, my breakfast half cold as I was right next to the entrance....

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:09

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:01

Is talking on the internet allowed?

I was completely still and silent for the 2 mins - according to the timing of your posting you weren't.

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:11

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:09

I was completely still and silent for the 2 mins - according to the timing of your posting you weren't.

Nope. I hope you weren't reading MN.

StandingSideBySide · 10/11/2024 11:12

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 11:07

Our borders weren't in danger in 1998 any more than they were through all the years that the IRA were active. Acts of terrorism don't equate to invasion.

Might be worth mentioning that on the Conflict in the Middle East threads because Israel has been using that as an excuse for over a year now.
Apologies for the derail, couldn’t resist

SoupDragon · 10/11/2024 11:13

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 10:53

OP said unable.

The only people unable to be silent for two minutes are those who are unable to be silent because of disability or neuro divergence etc.

Suggesting that those who are unable to stay silent should stay home is ableist, regardless of anyone's feelings about remeberance.

It's clear from the context of the post that she meant people talking, not making noise through SNs/disabilities.

pestowithwalnuts · 10/11/2024 11:13

Mintyt · 10/11/2024 09:12

Yes makes me very cross when not silent, and makes me very emotional when we do, such a small thing to do for such a big thing the armed forces did for us and the country

Absolutely. We always observe the silence wherever we are.
Mostly at home now. DH raises a tot of whisky to the fallen.

In Sainsbury's observing the 2mins silence..everyone stopped still...tills were quiet yet one elderly couple continued to argue about wether they should buy digestives of malted milk

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:14

StarSlinger · 10/11/2024 11:11

Nope. I hope you weren't reading MN.

I don't care what you think, but of course I wasn't.

ADisreputableJade · 10/11/2024 11:18

If you are unable or refuse to observe the silence at 11am today or tomorrow, please don’t be in a public place.

To nit-pick for a moment, a shop isn't a public place, it's a building that's open to the public, with the right to refuse or limit entry. I agree that people who choose not to observe the silence when there has been an announcement that it will happen in that building should leave it. In a public place, e.g. the street or the park, I guess they can carry on not being silent, but indoors you should comply with what the establishment owners/management chooses to happen.

MiddleParking · 10/11/2024 11:21

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Posted at 11.02. Amazing 😂

pleasehelpwi3 · 10/11/2024 11:22

Not sure.
Remembrance seems to have moved on from being a collective act that everyone understood having been through the experience of either of the World Wars- understandably so up until the 1970s- to an Establishment virtue signalling exercise. I always admired Jon Snow for not wearing his poppy- I am sure that all of the guests on morning breakfast shows have their poppies put on them by the make up people before they go on screen, and then remove them once out of shot.

Bonfirenightchaos · 10/11/2024 11:24

Do you think young children/toddlers should stay at home then too?

Longma · 10/11/2024 11:30

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EdithBond · 10/11/2024 11:32

I don’t pause for public silences for various reasons. I never wear a poppy.

I still go out and carry on with what I’m doing. Because I should be free to do so.

But equally I don’t talk or make noise during silences if others around me are observing them, out of respect for them.

Bimblesalong · 10/11/2024 11:35

Just back from our village service held at the war memorial outside the church. A strong gathering of villagers, some former forces members, with the uniformed groups of brownies, cubs, etc. A lovely service.

The road split the congregation in half. I had to look in some surprise at a car driving through during the two minute silence, as it had an England flag on the antenna, with a large poppy on its front grille 🙄

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 11:35

Lickthips · 10/11/2024 11:07

Our borders weren't in danger in 1998 any more than they were through all the years that the IRA were active. Acts of terrorism don't equate to invasion.

I wasn't referring to the IRA.

I was referring to the British army being an invading force and the reason people slept soundly in their beds in the UK.

If you think the Troubles was all about the IRA in GB you're very uninformed.

BarbaraHoward · 10/11/2024 11:36

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:06

I was born at a time and in a place when the threat of war and the potential loss of liberty was probably at it's lowest.

And have all of the people living in your country felt the same?

DieStrassensindimmernass · 10/11/2024 11:36

EdithBond · 10/11/2024 11:32

I don’t pause for public silences for various reasons. I never wear a poppy.

I still go out and carry on with what I’m doing. Because I should be free to do so.

But equally I don’t talk or make noise during silences if others around me are observing them, out of respect for them.

Do you understand the concept of others having enabled you to be 'free to do so"?

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