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To accept weaker orgasms

66 replies

Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 20:02

Hi I am 45 and have always had a decent libido and good orgasms. I suspect I’m in the perimenopause and the last year my orgasms are just so weak. Is this something I have to accept as part of aging? I’ve tried pelvic floor and used a Kelgel machine for a year (improved bladder function but hasn’t increased them). It’s making sex not worth the effort. Is this normal and something I just have to accept?

OP posts:
Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 21:19

Thanks so much ladies for this advice - I just feel like I’ve turned into an elderly woman almost overnight - I will look into and try everything being suggested!

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Mirabai · 09/11/2024 21:21

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 20:58

Honestly! You lot! 70 is my year of birth so no, am not an old hag who sailed through menopause, am right in the midst of it. What is wrong with thinking there is more to sex than just having a powerful orgasm at the end of it? I mean, orgasms are great but if something happened so I never had another one, I wouldn't think sex wasn't worth the effort anymore. I like the closeness and the whole act. The orgasm is an added bonus. Am I easy pleased or something?

Yes. 😆

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 21:30

Mirabai · 09/11/2024 21:21

Yes. 😆

OK, I'll shut up now lol

Kitkat1523 · 09/11/2024 21:35

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 20:17

But there is more to just sex than the orgasm at the end! OP is still having them but she said the fact that they weren't as strong made it almost not worth it.The closeness and being together to me is just as important as the end result.

Well get you 🙄

Kitkat1523 · 09/11/2024 21:37

Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 20:09

I’ve had ovarian cancer in the past so hrt is something I am going to need to discuss with oncology. The cream sounds great!!!

I’ve had breast cancer…..my team are happy for me to use blissel gel…..it’s lower dose vaginal estrogen …..your gp can prescribe

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 21:41

Kitkat1523 · 09/11/2024 21:35

Well get you 🙄

Sorry! I obviously have a better relationship with my partner than you do or you wouldn't be so snarky!

JoJothegerbil · 09/11/2024 21:41

I've had womb cancer and am able to have Vagifem pessaries. I might look into Ovestin though too.

Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 21:43

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 21:41

Sorry! I obviously have a better relationship with my partner than you do or you wouldn't be so snarky!

I reckon you are just used to crap sex with no orgasms

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Futurethinking2026 · 09/11/2024 21:43

Allthegoodusernamesareused · 09/11/2024 20:23

I totally get it. I'm late 40's, peri, and recently started on sertraline for severe anxiety, as well as HRT.
I have to work so hard to climax at all, and when I do, it's frankly pathetic. I used to have wonderful orgasms.

Sertraline made it almost impossible for me.

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 21:45

Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 21:43

I reckon you are just used to crap sex with no orgasms

I orgasm regularly (sorry) but sometimes I can't because I take medication that gets in the way and I still really enjoy it. Didn't realise that was weird!

Zigazigaaaaaah · 09/11/2024 21:50

That’s encouraging about vit B12 I’m a year post breast cancer and early menopause being induced. Worry that’s it for sex and I’m not even 40 😭@VWT5

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 09/11/2024 22:00

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 20:17

But there is more to just sex than the orgasm at the end! OP is still having them but she said the fact that they weren't as strong made it almost not worth it.The closeness and being together to me is just as important as the end result.

I love my husband with my whole heart and we have always had a good sex life but there are lots of ways for me to feel close to him and a large part of the reason for sex is the orgasms. Otherwise I could feel close to him by falling asleep in his arms.

My perimenopausal orgasms definitely felt like the volume had been dialled down and then I started in testosterone gel and they’re now back to normal.

greengreyblue · 09/11/2024 22:01

Mine dimmed a bit but came back. I’m 2 years post meno. I use Ovestin.

princesspadam · 09/11/2024 22:06

I'm on HRT
The vaginal pessaries and testosterone has given me my orgasms back and I am super happy with this!!!!!
It's been a game changer
Also on sertraline

notsosweet16 · 09/11/2024 22:07

I had exactly the same issue (thanks peri). I started taking menopause complex by Hey Nutrition and my libido came back and so did the knee trembling orgasms. It’s the main reason I carry on taking it as don’t really have many other peri symptoms.

Makingchocolatecake · 09/11/2024 22:11

Allthegoodusernamesareused · 09/11/2024 20:23

I totally get it. I'm late 40's, peri, and recently started on sertraline for severe anxiety, as well as HRT.
I have to work so hard to climax at all, and when I do, it's frankly pathetic. I used to have wonderful orgasms.

I think sertraline can do this.

paddyclampster · 09/11/2024 22:32

I haven't noticed a decline but I am on HRT!

Bringautumnnights · 09/11/2024 22:36

Hoglet70 · 09/11/2024 20:12

If the only reason for having sex is the strength of the orgasm at the end maybe you're having sex with the wrong person? Not meaning that as a snarky comment, even though it sounds like one.

What's the other reason meant to be?

Surely sex is to experience orgasms and pleasure.

No man would bother if they didn't orgasm, so why should women?

doublec · 09/11/2024 22:37

Lennon80 · 09/11/2024 20:09

I’ve had ovarian cancer in the past so hrt is something I am going to need to discuss with oncology. The cream sounds great!!!

Ovarian cancer isn't hormone fed, so HRT isn't an issue per se. Also, topical oestrogen isn't always considered as standard HRT and not routinely offered. But it should be, it's miraculous stuff. (Indeed, my orgasm are stronger since taking it).

As ovarian cancer isn't fed by hormones, and I know this because I've recently had this conversation with a gynaecologist at The Royal London in advance of having my ovaries and fallopian tubes taken out. I had hormone fed breast cancer and a double mastectomy. Due to BCRA mutations and family history, I am at a huge risk of ovarian cancer. While I'm not allowed HRT, with the blessing of both my oncologist and gynae, I use vaginal oestrogen in the form of a pessary. (In fact, I forgot to mention I was using it and the gynae recommended it to me). It's an incredibly low dose, does not enter the bloodstream and is safe. Just ask your MDT or cancer nurse about it. I use Vagifem because it's the easiest to use.

Talk to your team. There's really no reason why you cannot use it.

ABirdsEyeView · 09/11/2024 22:40

You might want to look into testosterone as well. Superdrug do it if you can't get GP to prescribe (you'll need to get your levels tested first though).
Menopause makes our testosterone drop as well as our oestrogen.

InsiderBetty · 09/11/2024 22:47

princesspadam · 09/11/2024 22:06

I'm on HRT
The vaginal pessaries and testosterone has given me my orgasms back and I am super happy with this!!!!!
It's been a game changer
Also on sertraline

Can someone who isn't peri yet use the vaginal pessaries does anyone know?

JaceLancs · 09/11/2024 22:55

I’m post menopause and had a hysterectomy when I was 35, tried HRT patches and didn’t get on with them due to itching skin, sore boobs and feelings of anxiety
My orgasms whilst still pleasant don’t feel as deep - any idea whether a cream would help?

doublec · 09/11/2024 22:55

@InsiderBetty I don't think there's any reason why not. Talk to your GP or else a pharmacist - Vagifem is available over the counter as Gina. For me, it's been a magic bullet that I wish I'd have had access to years ago.

Loonaandalf · 09/11/2024 22:57

Could you go see a gynaecologist, you may need to pay. I’d imagine an nhs gp will just fob you off like they do with most things. Other things to consider.. sex toys, sensation enhancing gels, less masturbation/ less sex and see if that helps with intensity when you do have an orgasm.

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