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Orangerie kitchen? Yes or no

88 replies

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:07

We want an extension than has lots of light. We have a snug room but are thinking of a kitchen orangerie. Are they tacky? Even in brick? They look lovely and light and with underfloor heating might be ok in winter?
AIBU - they are tacky and I would not want one
YANBU - they look lovely, wish we could do it

Orangerie kitchen? Yes or no
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MatildaTheCat · 09/11/2024 16:09

Looks as if it would be hotter than hell in summer.

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:09

Just add, east facing

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allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:09

a posh name for a conservatory

Kitchenwoe · 09/11/2024 16:10

Gorgeous

bilbodog · 09/11/2024 16:13

Looks wonderful! Conservatories and orangeries are only tacky when cheaply done. The one you are looking at will be very expensive and gorgeous!

poetryandwine · 09/11/2024 16:14

Too exposed for me to work in, especially lit up after dark, unless it faces into a private garden.

If private I think it could be lovely. I would want enough brick to stay well away from the conservatory look.

tangobravo · 09/11/2024 16:15

I think they're lovely but maybe off the kitchen, with the table in it? She's not particularly liked on here (not sure why!!) but Mrs Hinch has a lovely one on her house

sequin2000 · 09/11/2024 16:18

I have one and love it for a few months a year. In the winter it is freezing. We have a fire which heats it brilliantly but costs £1 an hour and the heat disappears instantly. Underfloor heating is expensive to run. In summer I still love it but the family won't eat in there as it's too hot.

sequin2000 · 09/11/2024 16:19

Oh and the bluebottles and flies in summer are a constant nightmare!

FujiWisteria · 09/11/2024 16:19

@Bubblebuttress I could have written this. We're also after an extension on an east facing back garden and wondered whether we should go for an orangery. Go for it, I think it'll be beautiful and unique.

Bearbookagainandagain · 09/11/2024 16:20

My dad has something similar and we are thinking of getting the same as it's much cheaper than an extension.
His advice was to invest in good insulating materials (roof, windows and frame) as it's what's make the room usable summer and winter. He also has an aircon unit that heats up the room in 20-30 min, and the doors open all around if it's hot in the summer.
It's brilliant, we've used it all year round without problem.

[Edit: similar, but what we are considering clearly a conservatory. I would be concerned about heating/cooling an "orangerie" type room]

SiobhanSharpe · 09/11/2024 16:22

That is a weird looking thing. Why is it called a kitchen when it is clearly a conservatory? With a fake fireplace that is surely on what used to be an outside wall?
And conservatories are indeed very hot in Summer and colder than a witch's tit the rest of the year. I know, I have one.
(Aren't orangeries heated plant houses for growing exotic things that would not otherwise survive in winter? Who changed the definition?)

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 16:22

allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:09

a posh name for a conservatory

A orangery is brick and glass, a conservatory is glass, with minimal glass.

Threetrees745 · 09/11/2024 16:26

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:07

We want an extension than has lots of light. We have a snug room but are thinking of a kitchen orangerie. Are they tacky? Even in brick? They look lovely and light and with underfloor heating might be ok in winter?
AIBU - they are tacky and I would not want one
YANBU - they look lovely, wish we could do it

We had one in our old house and the summer months were awful as it was far, far, far too hot.

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:27

@FujiWisteria

I’ve read timber oak can last 60 years but am more inclined for brick. Are you thinking brick?

Thank you to the PPs mentioning the cold…. We had a conservatory in the last house, one of the uPVC kind and it was cold, and noisy in the rain, hence me hesitating. Those that have one where the insulating materials I think make the difference… what kind of things to ask for?

Here’s another style we I really like.

Would it affect whether you would buy this house in the future if you hated them. Thank you for the comments -please keep them coming!

Orangerie kitchen? Yes or no
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SiobhanSharpe · 09/11/2024 16:28

Ponoka7 · 09/11/2024 16:22

A orangery is brick and glass, a conservatory is glass, with minimal glass.

My conservatory is mostly glass but with a brick base/lower part to about 45cm height. It's most definitely not an orangery.
The name seems to have been adopted to make a bog standard conservatory sound rather more posh.
Real orangeries are separate, free standing buildings, as in Kew Gardens.

Tooffless · 09/11/2024 16:30

A neighbour has one. Thinks they're private but you can see them wandering around scratching their arse in the morning from the popular dog walking route a bit higher up.

ApplePieCrumble · 09/11/2024 16:31

I don’t think I like those popular bi fold doors. We have a garden room, which is basically a brick wall and window conservatory, with a proper slate roof, and two radiators

It’s freezing in the winter, the radiators work, I just think three walls of double glazed windows and french doors are really cold.

The roof and kitchen look fabulous, and I could be wrong about bi folds, but there seems more scope for cold that way than we have.

Cherandcheralike · 09/11/2024 16:31

That's the same style I want! My friend has one and it hasn't felt cold but it's half brick with a roof light rather than full orangery (like your second link). I'm currently thinking best to have the kitchen bit in the house side of the room but be able to move the table into the orangery in the summer. My inspiration is the restaurant at the pig in the new forest.

SprigatitoYouAndIKnow · 09/11/2024 16:36

Ooh I love it. I am opposed to most of mumsnet and wider society, as I would love a conservatory. I would just fill it to the brim with plants though, so the people wouldn't get much of a look in.

Mirabai · 09/11/2024 16:39

SiobhanSharpe · 09/11/2024 16:28

My conservatory is mostly glass but with a brick base/lower part to about 45cm height. It's most definitely not an orangery.
The name seems to have been adopted to make a bog standard conservatory sound rather more posh.
Real orangeries are separate, free standing buildings, as in Kew Gardens.

The distinction is used to denote the amount of glass. Conservatories are mostly glass, orangeries have much more brick, they do not have to be separate. The conservatory at Kew is freestanding also.

CheltenhamLady · 09/11/2024 16:40

We have one and love it. It is well-insulated and warm. We did have to have special blinds made for the roof lights though. In fact, it looks almost exactly like the one pictured above, except the island runs the opposite way to make the most of the wrap-around garden views.

Mirabai · 09/11/2024 16:42

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:27

@FujiWisteria

I’ve read timber oak can last 60 years but am more inclined for brick. Are you thinking brick?

Thank you to the PPs mentioning the cold…. We had a conservatory in the last house, one of the uPVC kind and it was cold, and noisy in the rain, hence me hesitating. Those that have one where the insulating materials I think make the difference… what kind of things to ask for?

Here’s another style we I really like.

Would it affect whether you would buy this house in the future if you hated them. Thank you for the comments -please keep them coming!

Edited

If you have 2 sides of brick with French windows onto the garden and a skylight - (actually 2 smaller skylights is better than one as it breaks up the heat and the glare) - you should be ok if it faces east.

Ohthatsabitshit · 09/11/2024 16:44

I think gorgeous.

allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:45

is this actually your property op?