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Orangerie kitchen? Yes or no

88 replies

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:07

We want an extension than has lots of light. We have a snug room but are thinking of a kitchen orangerie. Are they tacky? Even in brick? They look lovely and light and with underfloor heating might be ok in winter?
AIBU - they are tacky and I would not want one
YANBU - they look lovely, wish we could do it

Orangerie kitchen? Yes or no
OP posts:
allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:45

these are styles you like?

FranticFrankie · 09/11/2024 16:48

We knocked ours down (ice box in winter despite a big radiator and very very hot in summer) and built an extension instead.

diddl · 09/11/2024 16:49

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:27

@FujiWisteria

I’ve read timber oak can last 60 years but am more inclined for brick. Are you thinking brick?

Thank you to the PPs mentioning the cold…. We had a conservatory in the last house, one of the uPVC kind and it was cold, and noisy in the rain, hence me hesitating. Those that have one where the insulating materials I think make the difference… what kind of things to ask for?

Here’s another style we I really like.

Would it affect whether you would buy this house in the future if you hated them. Thank you for the comments -please keep them coming!

Edited

Possibly depends on what type of house it's on but as a rule that's exactly what I hate.

A kitchen with a dining table & settee in!

TherapistInATabard · 09/11/2024 16:56

‘Orangery’ lol

Sawlt · 09/11/2024 16:57

I would suggest … before you get those folding glass doors, that you visit a space that has them, and try them and check condition after being used for a while.

suggest going for a lot of glass, but not a room that fully opens. Big heavy sliding glass doors that lock properly is better security.

Image you posted is unrealistic fantasy house photo…. White sofas right there on the edge & the doors will get wet/ruined if folded out and unexpected rain. No flow to garden

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:59

allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:45

is this actually your property op?

I wish! No it’s from a company that advertises orangeries, not sure I am allowed to link to them. we are going to visit in person next week

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Mirabai · 09/11/2024 16:59

If you have a period property - you can get bifold doors that don’t look like they are - they look like regular French windows.

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 17:00

We have an orangery running the full width of our semi. Two side walls brick, French doors at centre with steps down to garden. Deep triple windows each side, tiled roof with two large Velux. Tiled floor. We use it as a dining room/sitting room. Large table one end, small sofa at the other. It's west facing so summer afternoons/evenings can be hellish and slatted blinds are a must. We're very glad we opted for orangery with solid roof and not a conservatory. We toyed with the idea of making it a kitchen but it seemed more practical to use as a dining/sitting area and it runs off the kitchen anyway. It is usable all year round.

Mirabai · 09/11/2024 17:02

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:59

I wish! No it’s from a company that advertises orangeries, not sure I am allowed to link to them. we are going to visit in person next week

Why not?

The usual ones are Vale, David Salisbury and Westbury. I prefer Vale but they’re slower.

Woodstocks · 09/11/2024 17:03

DONT DO IT.

I once viewed a house that had this and it was awful and the reason I didn’t buy it. Visited on a normal spring day, sunny but not hot as English weather normally is but it was so humid in there and because it wasn’t properly separated from the rest of the house it was humid all over. In winter it would be freezing.

it’s essentially going to be unusable.

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 17:03

I thought maybe advertising not allowed. The pics are from Westbury, they are only an hour away so think we will visit next week

OP posts:
Latticewindow · 09/11/2024 17:05

Bubblebuttress · 09/11/2024 16:27

@FujiWisteria

I’ve read timber oak can last 60 years but am more inclined for brick. Are you thinking brick?

Thank you to the PPs mentioning the cold…. We had a conservatory in the last house, one of the uPVC kind and it was cold, and noisy in the rain, hence me hesitating. Those that have one where the insulating materials I think make the difference… what kind of things to ask for?

Here’s another style we I really like.

Would it affect whether you would buy this house in the future if you hated them. Thank you for the comments -please keep them coming!

Edited

I’d buy this - it’s beautiful

poetryandwine · 09/11/2024 17:13

Timber oak can last much longer than 60 years. New England, the Midwest and the Deep South of America have many timber oak houses from the 19th c in good condition, including some owned by friends of ours.

All is subject to more intense rainfall than we get, and in New England and the Midwest there is also a lot of snow. It is important to maintain the paintwork, however.

ssd · 09/11/2024 17:16

Really nice

LadyRoughDiamond · 09/11/2024 17:21

We have a glazed wall ad partial roof in our kitchen. My advice is that it all depends on the direction it faces and the level of insulation. Orangeries and lantern roofed extensions (another option) can be very hot in summer and cold in winter. You may need to consider window film or built-in blinds to manage this, plus non-electric integrated heating.

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 17:31

TherapistInATabard · 09/11/2024 16:56

‘Orangery’ lol

Yes, orangery. What is the lol about?

A conservatory has a glass roof and sides, an orangery doesn't.

GoodVibesHere · 09/11/2024 17:37

Ugh I don't know which is worse, having a room called an 'orangery' or calling a room 'the snug'.

Fine in an old manor house/ stately home etc but in a normal house it really is just a conservatory and spare room trying to be posh.

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 17:52

GoodVibesHere · 09/11/2024 17:37

Ugh I don't know which is worse, having a room called an 'orangery' or calling a room 'the snug'.

Fine in an old manor house/ stately home etc but in a normal house it really is just a conservatory and spare room trying to be posh.

It's not a conservatory if it doesn't have a glass roof and sides. Look it up before passing judgement.
I'd say calling the sitting room "the lounge" is far more ugh than orangery.

What's with all the reverse snobbery on here today 😂

GoodVibesHere · 09/11/2024 21:01

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 17:52

It's not a conservatory if it doesn't have a glass roof and sides. Look it up before passing judgement.
I'd say calling the sitting room "the lounge" is far more ugh than orangery.

What's with all the reverse snobbery on here today 😂

It's still just a conservatory though Grin I mean you'd sound like a right tit saying 'where are my slippers? Oh there they are, in the orangery'.

I agree with you though, lounge does sound a bit pretentious! I've rarely heard anyone say 'sitting room' either. How posh! We just have a bog standard living room.

Jc2001 · 09/11/2024 21:10

allaboutsign · 09/11/2024 16:09

a posh name for a conservatory

They're two different things.

AgathaLioness · 09/11/2024 21:18

Lounge isn't pretentious at all...

Id go for brick up to half height then windows all round, and some old fashioned timber double doors out onto the garden. No idea of price or practicalities, but it would look fab!

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 21:54

GoodVibesHere · 09/11/2024 21:01

It's still just a conservatory though Grin I mean you'd sound like a right tit saying 'where are my slippers? Oh there they are, in the orangery'.

I agree with you though, lounge does sound a bit pretentious! I've rarely heard anyone say 'sitting room' either. How posh! We just have a bog standard living room.

It's not a conservatory because it is not made of glass so why would I say something is in the conservatory when we don't actually have one?

The dog sleeps in the orangery. If you think that sounds stupid that is your problem, not mine 😁

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 22:00

AgathaLioness · 09/11/2024 21:18

Lounge isn't pretentious at all...

Id go for brick up to half height then windows all round, and some old fashioned timber double doors out onto the garden. No idea of price or practicalities, but it would look fab!

Lounge is not pretentious, it's the opposite, it sounds like a pub to me... but maybe it depends where you come from. Some of these differences could be regional.

AgathaLioness · 09/11/2024 22:15

PyreneanAubrie · 09/11/2024 22:00

Lounge is not pretentious, it's the opposite, it sounds like a pub to me... but maybe it depends where you come from. Some of these differences could be regional.

I agree! I hadn't thought about regional variances though

Mirabai · 09/11/2024 22:23

AgathaLioness · 09/11/2024 21:18

Lounge isn't pretentious at all...

Id go for brick up to half height then windows all round, and some old fashioned timber double doors out onto the garden. No idea of price or practicalities, but it would look fab!

That would be a conservatory… (and have heat/cold issues).

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