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to think that children in your child's class don't identify as animals?

280 replies

wotnofurries · 08/11/2024 14:39

inspired by the wearing a tail to school thread, I thought I'd see just how common or otherwise the whole furry/litter tray/identify as an animal thing really is.

Unreasonable = Yes, a child in my child's class does this.
Not Unreasonable = Don't be silly, never come across one in my life.

OP posts:
ReacherSaidNothing · 08/11/2024 20:14

My DS told me another kid in his school (secondary) identifies as an ant.

Fleurdalys · 08/11/2024 20:16

How utterly ridiculous

Fleurdalys · 08/11/2024 20:17

Heatherbell1978 · 08/11/2024 19:25

If my 7 year old asked to be a cat and go to school as one, I'd laugh and then tell her to stop being ridiculous. The end. It blows my mind that there are parents who go 'ok then, I'll speak to the school and ask them to recognise you as a cat'. Jesus wept.

This

ChoristerAtChristmas · 08/11/2024 20:23

ReacherSaidNothing · 08/11/2024 20:14

My DS told me another kid in his school (secondary) identifies as an ant.

Well, ants get squished on,he might want to choose a different animal 😁😀

ASimpleLampoon · 08/11/2024 20:23

Wellingtonspie · 08/11/2024 15:56

Yes no slugs or pigeons. I’m surprised no boys have decided on skunks. They could just go around farting at everyone.

Please... Don't let my son read this 😂

Cornishmama1990 · 08/11/2024 21:04

TwattyMcFuckFace · 08/11/2024 14:45

No it's really not normal.

It's normal for kids to pretend play at being lots of things - yes.

'Identifying' as an animal is certainly not and nor should it be encouraged.

At least not without seeking help for their mental health.

Edited

That's literally what I just said? I think it's normal to pretend to be an animal but now they have this terminology around it that wasn't there before. I don't encourage it but also not going to stop her playing. If it carries into secondary school then it might become a problem but I can't exactly stop her?

Cornishmama1990 · 08/11/2024 21:12

Fluufer · 08/11/2024 16:11

How does your 7 year old even know what a therian is to "identify" as one? Too much unsupervised youtube/tiktok?

Nope, she doesn't have a phone or any social media at all. Only allowed kids youtube in very limited amounts. But she has an older stepsister on her dad's side and also some year 6 girls in year school she's friends with, and I think it's trickled down through them.

Cornishmama1990 · 08/11/2024 21:12

fanaticalfairy · 08/11/2024 16:14

Too much internet

Nope not at all. No phone or access to Internet or YouTube. She learns it from school/step sister

Weedoormatnomore · 08/11/2024 21:44

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 08/11/2024 19:27

This can't be true!

It is I see the cat regularly walking home got ears or mask on and a tail. Also got class mates to call them by another name. 2nd child was not so serious. My DD told me about the litter tray campaign.

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 08/11/2024 21:45

Weedoormatnomore · 08/11/2024 21:44

It is I see the cat regularly walking home got ears or mask on and a tail. Also got class mates to call them by another name. 2nd child was not so serious. My DD told me about the litter tray campaign.

Madness!!!!!

frustratedplusone · 08/11/2024 22:07

There's a few in my child's class, y5. School had an assembly about it. DD finds it all quite amusing but said it doesn't bother her if that what make them happy.

Morven7 · 08/11/2024 22:09

MySistersCard · 08/11/2024 14:51

I did this as did a few of my friends 😂Not sure we identified as horses but we were obsessed with them and spent every break building little jumps and jumping over them. I think the difference is that then everyone was happy just to treat it as a game.

😂, was just playing tho

dancinfeet · 08/11/2024 22:32

I identify as a rich person. I cannot understand why people will not validate my choices and indulge my lifestyle. Just saying.

VeggPatch · 08/11/2024 22:55

Yes, a child in my child's Y7 class does this. That child is my child.

She doesn't wear a tail to school because I won't get one. But does do the walking on all fours, howling, licking arms, nose-twitching and sniffing etc - and always has done, this was one of the things that was noted on her autism diagnosis long before she or I had ever heard the word therian. She doesn't have internet access herself - she got the terminology from another autistic girl the same age, and it has spread across a group of them like the bubonic plague. I'm really worried about how vulnerable she is to older people for whom it is a sexual fetish. The walking on all fours is actually an occupational therapy exercise we were shown when she was still a pre-schooler and is beneficial to autistic kids with low muscle tone and in need of proprioceptive input. I have taken youtube off the apps on the TV (although she was never interested in it anyway), she won't be getting a smart phone, and I've had a million conversations with her about the difference between pretending and reality. I've asked for an early review of her EHCP to add in to it that while it's fine for her to pretend to be a wolf, it is bad for her SEMH to retreat into a complete fantasy world and staff are not to indulge it. I've spoken to the senco already and she's in agreement.

This means that like the Scottish report a PP referenced my child's EHCP will make reference to therians and her belief that she's a wolf along with outcomes (because that's how EHCPs work), and if the Mail get hold of it I'm sure they'll do the same hatchet job on "documents that we have seen" that insinuates the school are encouraging it.

Still, it's great to know that when other parents see her howling, or licking her arms, or sniffing and twitching her nose - all things she has done when dysregulated since she was tiny - what they are thinking is that
I am to blame (thanks @DaisyChain505)
she should be taken off me (thanks @Tattletwat)
I let her have unsupervised tiktok (thanks @Fluufer)
I support it and I'm fucking mental (thanks @DelilahRay)

And before you protest that that's unfair because you didn't mean ME, you meant the parents who are encouraging it - you can't tell from looking which child has the encouraging parents and which doesn't because their behaviours look identical. I can guarantee if you saw us when DD is dysregulated you would be hoiking your judgey pants up so hard you'd wedgie your tonsils.

ccchan · 08/11/2024 23:28

There was a girl in my DDs class who was a furry for a while in Y8, but now, in Y10, is 'normal' and none of the classmates remember it.

Decencydiedtoday · 09/11/2024 00:46

Not this again. I do not believe this happens, and that furthermore all these goady threads about it are just started so all the transphobes can bang on airing their prejudices.

Growuppeople · 09/11/2024 01:29

ChoristerAtChristmas · 08/11/2024 17:18

It's not taking the piss. It's just not validating it or taking it seriously which is a good thing. Why do children identifying as animals need it validated ? Attention seeking like this is often helped by being ignored and allowed to take its course .

What? I’m confused? She is validating it and she needs to teach and parent her child for the real world it’s disgusting! And the fact your child even know’s whatever it is they call it is on you! Literally strange and weird

Saschka · 09/11/2024 01:40

DS7 occasionally likes to pretend he is a cat. He doesn’t think he is one though, he just likes being petted and told he is cute.

I also remember wanting to be a cat at a similar age - in my case I wanted that level of agility (did a lot of gymnastics). I also did not actually think I was a cat, or want to stop being a child. I just wanted to be able to jump 2 metres in the air and walk along the top of a fence.

Saschka · 09/11/2024 01:48

Ihaveneedofwaternear · 08/11/2024 19:27

This can't be true!

That poster didn’t say it was a successful campaign. I can well imagine two slightly dramatic 14 year olds starting an earnest petition for a litter tray. The school is not going to say yes - you can’t leave a tray full of human shit in secondary school toilets.

Edingril · 09/11/2024 01:52

Before the 1990's or thereabouts did anyone actually identify as anything other than human?

Banditheelerfan · 09/11/2024 02:08

13/27 of the children in my class (Primary School, UKS2). We have actually put a ‘litter tray’ in one corner to accommodate, as have 2 others in our school.

Most classes have 3/4 children identifying.

dayslikethese1 · 09/11/2024 02:16

I thought the litter tray thing was a made up spoof story? I'm alarmed if it's true. Wtf.

Edingril · 09/11/2024 02:19

So there are children who use a litter tray in a classroom full of people? Who cleans it afterwards?

Annony331 · 09/11/2024 02:27

No child in any of our schools identifies as any animal. Asking friends who work in other settings about this and they all said the same.

Womblewife · 09/11/2024 03:56

OPsSockpuppet · 08/11/2024 16:17

Oh dear god. I followed the link. That’s some of the most half-baked crap I have ever read. This stood out:

  • For example, if your theriotype is a parrot, during your shift, you might lose your independent thought and start repeating other people, feel like you have feathers instead of skin, or randomly start visualizing yourself on a subtropical island.

FFS. And this:

  • For example, if you enjoy the beach more than your house, that doesn’t necessarily mean your theriotype is a crab. It could just be a tranquil environment.

No shit, Sherlock.

It must be a spoof. Surely?

Oh no! I visualise myself on a subtropical island everytime I buy a lottery ticket.

I must be a parrot. Damn it.

i must be a parrot. Damn it.

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