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To think new builds are too small

188 replies

Neuroticmillenial · 07/11/2024 12:31

Especially social housing.

Much prefer old style council houses with the smaller kitchens but larger living rooms and dining rooms.

I’m in a rented new build and I’d trade a hallway/porch and grassy garden for our bigger kitchen (bigger than living room) and downstairs toilet. Our stairs is less than 2 metres from our front door and it’s a pain with the buggy!

OP posts:
dollyop · 07/11/2024 14:24

Getting smaller: houses.

Getting bigger: phones, cars, people.

DinosaurMunch · 07/11/2024 14:27

FussyPud · 07/11/2024 14:14

I am in a post war council house which is tiny, with gardens big enough to build the house another three times over. I would trade most of my garden for built in storage and a dining room!

I have friends who have new builds, and my house is bigger than some of them, but they don’t have the garden I have.

I would love to see minimum building sizes become a thing, and I would also like so see above toward housing being marketed by the m/2 as well as the number of bedrooms.

Yes, I know I want 100 sq m for my next house but a lot of the time that info isn't on the listing. Not very helpful.

Wtfdude · 07/11/2024 14:27

FussyPud · 07/11/2024 14:14

I am in a post war council house which is tiny, with gardens big enough to build the house another three times over. I would trade most of my garden for built in storage and a dining room!

I have friends who have new builds, and my house is bigger than some of them, but they don’t have the garden I have.

I would love to see minimum building sizes become a thing, and I would also like so see above toward housing being marketed by the m/2 as well as the number of bedrooms.

I never understood why isn't sqm or sqft more important than number of bedrooms here.

Mrsttcno1 · 07/11/2024 14:27

We live in a new build now and did find when trying to choose one that you have to really pay for having any kind of actual space rather than ticky box room’s that are as small as they possibly can be. The cheaper 2/3 bed semi’s there was just no space at all really, nowhere for storage, garden’s were tiny, living room would fit 1 sofa and then not much else, no space in the kitchen for a dining table unless you got a space saver one and put it flush against the wall, the 3rd bedroom tiny, no hallway or porch etc. The more expensive ones though the difference in space is huge, we have plenty but we did have to pay £££ for that, every house should have at least some storage space. Lots of the 3 bed semi showhomes we viewed didn’t have any at all and we both said I don’t even know where you’d keep the hoover!

poppymango · 07/11/2024 14:32

The open plan layout can make homes appear bigger than they are, but yes they are tiny. Often with the weirdest layouts, too, and no storage space.

1960's homes on the other hand weren't the prettiest, but they are lovely and light and spacious!

EdithStourton · 07/11/2024 14:32

Wtfdude · 07/11/2024 12:45

Like this one.
How is 2.3m on 1.4m a bedroom???
Yes. 1.4m! Single bed is 0.9x1.9. That leaves 50cm and less next to the bed each side.
I could put 1 foot infront of another and that is the spare space. Literally.

It should not be allowed to be classed as bedroom. Bedroom 2 is also quite shit. Pretty sure that just tiny bit longer than 30s semi box room...

https://www.barratthomes.co.uk/new-homes/dev002575-brun-lea-heights/plot-69-h850169/?location=Manchester

I think there's a typo. The house is about 15' wide internally, and if one bedroom is 7'1" wide, the other (after a few inches for the wall) is probably about 7'9.

What I can't grasp about new builds is the plethora of bathrooms. If I was buying a 3-bed new build, I'd rather have one bathroom, one good-sized bedroom and 2 decently sized bedrooms than two bathrooms, 1 good sized bedroom, one okay bedroom and 1 cupboard with a window.

ONanotherplanetinTime · 07/11/2024 14:32

Mozartine · 07/11/2024 13:05

It’s the lack of storage that gets to me. Where does the hoover go? Or the Christmas decs? Or the camping gear? Madness.

This is why they have IKEA 😂

KimberleyClark · 07/11/2024 14:35

EdithStourton · 07/11/2024 14:32

I think there's a typo. The house is about 15' wide internally, and if one bedroom is 7'1" wide, the other (after a few inches for the wall) is probably about 7'9.

What I can't grasp about new builds is the plethora of bathrooms. If I was buying a 3-bed new build, I'd rather have one bathroom, one good-sized bedroom and 2 decently sized bedrooms than two bathrooms, 1 good sized bedroom, one okay bedroom and 1 cupboard with a window.

And if I was buying a two bed flat I’d rather have more living space/storage than an ensuite and a “family bathroom”.

ChessieFL · 07/11/2024 14:36

Agree re the bathrooms. I understand the requirement for the accessible downstairs loo, and that is nice to have for guests. However, even 2 bedroom houses now have the downstairs loo, a family bathroom and an en-suite for the master bedroom. The en suite really isn’t necessary in a 2 bedroom house - it would be better used as a cupboard or to make the bedrooms a bit bigger. En suites only really make sense for 3 bed and larger.

PsychoDeMayo · 07/11/2024 14:37

TheoriginalMrsDarcy · 07/11/2024 12:39

We have a new housing estate being built near us. I'm watching the foundations being put in place and can see the layout of the downstaira rooms. The rooms are small and pokey. I'm thinking one 3 piece suite and there's no space to move.

Went to look at the demo house, looks lovely, furnishings look good but if you really look properly, there's no wardrobe in the bedrooms, the sofas are 2 seater sofas and look slightly smaller than ur average size ones. Beds are small doubles etc...gardens are tiny, just a small square patch in the back. And on top of that, they're charging a small fortune for the privilege.

I got told that they use specially made furniture in show homes that is on a smaller scale to make rooms appear bigger. So there’ll be a sofa with three cushions but it’s really only the size of a normal 2 seater etc. Then when you move in with your normal sized stuff everything’s suddenly very cramped!

MarkRush · 07/11/2024 14:38

Bought a new build 4 bed about 10 years ago. it annoys me that youve to edge around the bottom of the bed as the rooms are small. still the harron home i got had higher ceilings than bellway i could place my hand on the roof in those it was crazy

Artistbythewater · 07/11/2024 14:39

Yes they are - but we are an island trying to cram 70 million and counting plus a million a year of arrivals somewhere.

80smonster · 07/11/2024 14:48

Urgh. Never newbuild is my mantra: large (overlooked) gardens that need digging up to grow anything, small rooms, odd storage arrangements (no, I don’t want a double garage). That’s before we discuss how ugly and poorly fitted out they are. Shame since newbuilds in other countries are of a lovely quality and are beautifully done.

buffyspikefaith · 07/11/2024 15:25

This is mine (built 2007)
Apparently the builders didn't like square rooms or something
I got the awkward corner in bed 1 boxed in with doors for storage

To think new builds are too small
Baneofmyexistence · 07/11/2024 15:26

Some are really small but there are lots of big ones too. Old houses can have this problem too. My Edwardian terrace has what is technically a third bedroom but it is tiny and only just fits a single bed and the master bedroom is enormous so the proportions are all off!

bluebalou · 07/11/2024 15:32

Bulletproofboobs · 07/11/2024 12:48

The days are long gone where you can get a large council house on a big plot, our population has increased massively and is only going to get worse with the demands on social housing, you can’t expect social housing as it was in the past, times have changed there are just too many people to house so small it is unless you have a budget to buy a large home that’s what you get these days.

That's why no one ever leaves them , mine is ex council and it's so big it's ridiculous, but it was built when families were a lot bigger , the houses and plots on the older ones are very good value for money.

anniegun · 07/11/2024 15:38

Remember it is profits first for house builders. They would sell you a cardboard box and call it a spacious studio

Bulletproofboobs · 07/11/2024 15:40

hadenoughofplayinggames · 07/11/2024 13:55

I’m more bothered about how close they are to each other!

But the largest proportion of British houses are terraced.

VioletCrawleyForever · 07/11/2024 15:41

Some are tiny. Some are not.

Mine is pretty large.

SimpleThings101 · 07/11/2024 15:42

It adds greatly to everyone’s stress levels.

Bulletproofboobs · 07/11/2024 15:45

LadyJaneEarlGreyTea · 07/11/2024 13:38

The thing is in my area 4 bed new builds would cost a minimum of £800,000+, 6 bed (massive?) nearly news are going for £1.3 million. That means that the houses that people who earn average incomes are priced out of anything other than a shoe box. Yes, I am in the south; no, I’m not in London

So? I don’t get your point, someone on an average income should expect an average house so an average 3 bed semi not a large 6 bed detached at 1.3 million.

Vroomfondleswaistcoat · 07/11/2024 15:49

It's not just new builds though. I live in a house built around 1812. Two bedrooms, one had a large double bed and a single bedside cabinet and there's not room for anything else, one has a small double, and that's just so I can get out of bed on either side. One bedside cabinet and I had to cut down a chair to put the other side as all cabinets were too wide.

On the plus side, I am allowed to keep a pig in my garden should I so choose (very small garden though).

Nina1013 · 07/11/2024 15:50

Bulletproofboobs · 07/11/2024 12:55

Meant to say I agree with you, there is always a thread like this going, there are lots of new builds in my town and they are massive, obviously you have to pay for size.

This!

I live in a pretty huge new build….

It’s not all new builds, it’s new builds at the more affordable end of the market.

BrioNotBiro · 07/11/2024 15:52

SovietSpy · 07/11/2024 12:49

I can see a PP has linked these standards, so are they legal min room sizes? Or just a recommendation if private developers don’t have to conform to them?

They are only recommendations, not legal requirements. Housing associations stick to them, private developers don't. There are minimum dimensions for bedrooms.

The flat/houses sizes recommended depend on the number of people, number of bedrooms, number of storeys and include storage space.