BF views on Trump

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Had a debate last night with bf about the US election before waking up to this morning's news. He has declared he is happy Trump has won. He has been clear he doesn't want any more kids. So I asked him what would happen if we lived in the US and I got pregnant with a baby he didn't want. His response was that we would just travel to another state for an abortion since it's state law not federal. We have been together for years but I wonder if this is the biggest red flag that you should run from that he supports this verdict?

Normal person is what I would call a male supporting Harris.

So much for accepting different views!!!

Sorry but his comment about the sexual assaults is the deal breaker for me. Run!!!

Yes, but it only happened because during his presidency, Trump appointed three judges which skewed the supreme court towards conservative values.

I'm sure people will be along to tell you that 'he's entitled to his opinion' and that it's bad to ditch a friend/partner over 'political differences' but I personally would run a fucking mile from anyone who was pro-Trump. Clearly, anyone pro-Trump would have completely different values and priorities to mine. It would make my skin crawl, frankly. I wouldn't have a relationship with someone pro-Trump any more than I'd have a relationship with someone who was pro-Tommy Robinson, pro-Andrew Tate or, frankly, pro-Hitler. I find people like that utterly abhorrent and I wouldn't want them anywhere near me, let alone sharing my bed.

I'd be dumping him

He has chosen the bigoted misgynist heap of doberman shite.
I wouldn't be with that person.

If you were sexually assaulted, do you trust your boyfriend to believe you or would he consider it a smear?

Trump is a cunt and it's pretty bad news all round that he's been elected.

However your BF's hypothetical answer to a hypothetical question around a situation that presumably has 0% chance of ever happening is a pretty wild way to judge someone you've been in a relationship with for years.

If it's part of a pattern of behaviour / views in a similar vein then it would be different

Well, if you are in the UK, there's a 52% chance he voted for Brexit.
Would that make you change your mind?

I couldn't live with anyone who supported Trump. I definitely couldn't love them because it says something about their values and they are completely opposite to mine

People who have the views that Trump has are bad people. It's not about having different views it's about being decent people with values like fairness, and honesty

Ultimately, anyone supporting Trump is supporting a known sexual abuser.... there's nothing else to say, really is there? So they think rape is okay? I don't know what you really do with that information.

It's about shared values

I couldn't be with a partner that thought that disgusting buffoon was fit to be a leader

Break up with him. The only red flag I can see in this situation is you. You can't change someones views. Either stay with him and respect that he has his own mind and opinions or move on so he can be with someone less controlling

thats literally how the US works. States are effectively different countries with far less decided at federal level than state. Thats how their country works, I dunno if it is better or worse. The point of Ross Vs Wade is that it's a state choice, not a federal choice, and therefore many many states now have it in their laws to guarantee abortion rights, others have removed it al together. thats who Americans are. 50 different countries trying to stick together.

This really isn't true. Small issues like traffic fines and details of laws are for the states but larger important issues are on the federal level. Overall Americans are pro choice but anti-abortion measures are forced through by some state governments.

P s. It's "Roe"

People are allowed to have different political views ti yourself, I
And you don't live in America ,so the abortion argument is pointless.

i agree with others who have said it’s about values, not opinions. Anyone voting for Trump would not share my values, and I wouldn’t want a deep relationship with them.

And you’re wrong, I think, to say Trump’s election won’t affect you directly - climate change, the cost of supporting Ukraine, encouraging the likes of Farage, moving the Tories to the right, the impact of his tariffs on the British economy, and more will all have direct impacts for all of us.

You can say it’s not as much as you like but this is the fundamental difference between America and the UK. This is and always was a states issue. It’s now back with the states where they wanted it. Now many states, not all have guaranteed abortion access. Many have removed it. That’s their choice whatever you think.

Quite a lot of people agree with all those things though. Quite a lot of people will be happy about it all. I’m happy about quite a few of them, I’m worried about NATO, not Ukraine. Ukraine was never going to win it was always going to be a negotiated settlement.

I wouldn’t have anything to with a man who admires a racist conman and rapist.
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For me, what it comes down to though is what does it say about people who are happy to have a man who has proven to have the ethics of a dead alley cat in power? That for me is the issue. I can cope like a grown up with different opinions on all sorts of things, not least because I think most of us genuinely want the world to be a better place, we just have different views on what that looks like. But I can't get my head around being okay with someone so craven, so dishonest, so awful to other people as the "leader" of the free world.

And both DH and I have spent this morning feeling heartbroken that so many people just don't care about that.

I could not be with a Trump supporter. Not because I cannot have different political opinions to a partner or friend, but because everyone has red lines.

I cannot support people who are actively anti-abortion (not talking what they would personally do, but wanting to legislate others rights away). I cannot support people who support certain right wing views. Nor homophobia, misogyny, and racism.

I can get on with, and debate with, those who share differing opinions on the economy/ taxes/ EU membership/ NATO/ UN. Even to a degree immigration (but not where it is obviously purely racist). I can agree to disagree on religion, philosophy, parenting styles etc.

But there are some things that I have no common ground with. A relationship (friendship, or romantic) is not obligatory. If you are fundamentally opposed on key, core beliefs, it is totally reasonable to walk away.

Supporting Trump would be a red line for me even for a friend. Someone who supports Trump has no values or morals in common with me.