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To continue correcting people who mispronounce colleagues name

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Gialam · 06/11/2024 07:54

About 3 weeks ago a new person joined my team, she’s young this is her first real job and I can tell she’s worried about making a good impression.
She’s French-Italian, her name is Eva but pronounced Eh-vah instead of Ee-vah.
For the first few days she corrected people and most now say her name right but now 3 people continue to pronounce it wrong, one is my boss (so her bosses boss) and two are older members of our team.
I’ve been told I’m being pedantic in continuing to correct them especially as she has stopped.
AIBU to continue correcting how they say her name until the show her some respect and say it right? Or should I let it go since she has?

OP posts:
Agix · 06/11/2024 08:01

You're not being pedantic at all. It's her name, they can't just get it wrong and insist they're doing fine. She's stopped because she's new and doesn't want to cause any kind of scene that might lose her her first job.

You could always ask her how she feels, privately. Tell her straight out that you want to keep correcting people yourself on her behalf because you feel she deserves the respect of it, and ask her if she is okay with you doing that?

nosyupnorth · 06/11/2024 08:25

Take the lead from her, talk to her privately if you are worried she does want it correcting but feels she can't speak up, but don't drag her into a battle she doesn't want to fight by continuing to correct if she'd prefer letting it go.

Fannyfiggs · 06/11/2024 08:30

I would start pronouncing their names wrong.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:33

she has been employed
she is an adult
if it bothers her enough she will raise
quite possibly she doesnt want you doing this

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:34

have you bothered to sit down with her and ask her if she’s bothered about it and whether she’d like you to get involved?

i. think. not.

crumpet · 06/11/2024 08:34

She might start to get more bothered by a big issue being made of it. See how she feels before campaigning

Sethera · 06/11/2024 08:35

Agix · 06/11/2024 08:01

You're not being pedantic at all. It's her name, they can't just get it wrong and insist they're doing fine. She's stopped because she's new and doesn't want to cause any kind of scene that might lose her her first job.

You could always ask her how she feels, privately. Tell her straight out that you want to keep correcting people yourself on her behalf because you feel she deserves the respect of it, and ask her if she is okay with you doing that?

Yes - `ask her how she wants to approach it, and offer support.

It might be that she's afraid of rubbing people up the wrong way or it might be she's simply sick of correcting people and has decided to live with it - you can support her even if this means respecting her decision to leave it, but sympathising.

Edingril · 06/11/2024 08:36

I would find doing this rude and patronising, if you did this to me with my name that people get wrong I would speak to management and ask them to tell ypu to stop

It is not about you

rainbowstardrops · 06/11/2024 08:37

Fannyfiggs · 06/11/2024 08:30

I would start pronouncing their names wrong.

So would I. It's disrespectful.
Having said that, I agree that you should ask her if it pisses her off. She might thank you if she's worried about correcting people herself as she's new.

flipdiddle81 · 06/11/2024 08:37

Edingril · 06/11/2024 08:36

I would find doing this rude and patronising, if you did this to me with my name that people get wrong I would speak to management and ask them to tell ypu to stop

It is not about you

exactly

and fact the op seems not to have even discussed the matter with her

AtomHeartMotherOfGod · 06/11/2024 08:37

Always tempting to mispronounce their names and say something like 'Oh yes - sorry, I didn't think it mattered' when they give you the correct pronunciation. I mean how can they haul you over the coals when they directly implicate themselves in whatever they accuse you of?

Anyway, she can't keep it up because she's scared and I agree with PPs that you can continue to help her. I doubt she'll get told off for something you do, even if advocating for her, but the private chat to ask her feelings is a good idea.

crumpet · 06/11/2024 08:38

Someone senior at work is not English, called Elisa (pron. Eleeza). She is regularly called

Eleesha
El-eye-sha
El-IS-a
El—eye-sa

and probably more. Doesn’t bat an eyelid.

Wakeywake · 06/11/2024 08:38

I've got a foreign name that some people can't pronounce properly. I couldn't care less and I'd be embarrassed if a colleague took it upon themselves to correct others on my behalf. How presumptuous of you.

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 06/11/2024 08:40

I think it’s your duty, as her manager, to bring it up but also your responsibility to make sure that in doing so, you don’t increase her discomfort. This may mean you need to raise it after a meeting, rather than during one.
It is disrespectful to disregard a person’s correct name and, if she were not white and had an unfamiliar name, refusing to learn it and use it correctly would be an act of racism. Perhaps if you make this point to those who think it’s unimportant, they will begin to understand that it is not.

ErrolTheDragon · 06/11/2024 08:43

Probably at this point probably you should drop correcting them. Obviously continue to pronounce her name correctly.

Don't do something childish like pronouncing their names wrongly, it won't help as they'll just think you're being daft. Respect is never won by showing disrespect is it?

SpanThatWorld · 06/11/2024 08:44

crumpet · 06/11/2024 08:38

Someone senior at work is not English, called Elisa (pron. Eleeza). She is regularly called

Eleesha
El-eye-sha
El-IS-a
El—eye-sa

and probably more. Doesn’t bat an eyelid.

I cannot tell you how many ways there are to mispronounce or mis-spell my name.

Once I've corrected people a couple of times, it gets really tedious. I may not bat an eyelid but that doesn't mean I'm happy.

SandrenaIsMyBloodType · 06/11/2024 08:44

crumpet · 06/11/2024 08:38

Someone senior at work is not English, called Elisa (pron. Eleeza). She is regularly called

Eleesha
El-eye-sha
El-IS-a
El—eye-sa

and probably more. Doesn’t bat an eyelid.

I think this is kind and gracious of her. People will understandably make mistakes but I think close colleagues and company bosses need to take the trouble to get it right. I wouldn’t bat an eyelid either but that’s not the same as not minding.

ItIsBeginingToLookLike · 06/11/2024 08:44

I think you did all that you can.

Ohthatsabitshit · 06/11/2024 08:47

Use her name correctly pronounced back at them. It takes some people longer.

Gialam · 06/11/2024 08:48

Okay thank you.
She mentioned colloquially that she hates being called ee-vah and for the first few days maybe even week did correct people so this would suggest to me she does have an issue with it.
Our office is only 50 people and everyone else’s name is always said correctly.

OP posts:
MyOtherCarisAVauxhallZafira · 06/11/2024 08:50

At this point you do it by modelling/gentle challenge , so someone says EEE vah is great isn't she, you say yes Eh va is a real asset very diligent etc or John Alice and Eee va are to lead on project X, "ok that's great I will let them know, it'll be great experience for Eh va". Rather than direct "no her name isn't EEE va it's Eh va"
I agree she might not be correcting because those don't it are more senior, but I also agree with PPs, by making it an issue that could also make her feel uncomfortable

Flocke · 06/11/2024 08:52

I think some people genuinely struggle to pronounce some names and it isn't always deliberate.
I have a very very easy name. Very common. Think along the lines of Hannah. My FIL says it weird. Instead of Hanna he says it more like Hannaaah. My DH has spent years trying to get him to say it properly. FIL insists he is and can't see what's wrong!
Another friend of mine has a "foreign" name. Similar to Sayid. He pronounces it Sy-eed. But a mutual friend always calls him Sy-ed. Again it's been brought up and no matter how many times it's been gone through the person getting it wrong can't see what they are saying wrong. Even if they do it phonetically it reverts back quickly. But Sayid doesn't mind. He knows its not done with any bad intent.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 06/11/2024 08:55

Gialam · 06/11/2024 07:54

About 3 weeks ago a new person joined my team, she’s young this is her first real job and I can tell she’s worried about making a good impression.
She’s French-Italian, her name is Eva but pronounced Eh-vah instead of Ee-vah.
For the first few days she corrected people and most now say her name right but now 3 people continue to pronounce it wrong, one is my boss (so her bosses boss) and two are older members of our team.
I’ve been told I’m being pedantic in continuing to correct them especially as she has stopped.
AIBU to continue correcting how they say her name until the show her some respect and say it right? Or should I let it go since she has?

Keep correcting. It is the height of rudeness not to pronounce a name correctly, particularly after being told the correct one.
Clearly, this poor girl has just given up; she won't want to come across as an arse by pursuing this, particularly as it is her first role
What ignorant people you work with

Petrine · 06/11/2024 08:55

She’s new to the job so I would think that she won’t want a big issue to be made over it… that’s why she’s let it go. If you get involved it could come across to her as being patronising.

GoldenPheasant · 06/11/2024 08:56

Tell the two team members that it's not optional, they must get the name right as a matter of basic good manners and politeness and if they don't start trying to they will be moving towards disciplinary action.

Take your boss aside and tell them that this person hates being called Eeva, please could they try to set a good example to the team. Maybe suggest they think of her as Ava so they don't get it wrong.

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