Woman’s death could have been due to parked cars

[MikeRafone]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj6k7n734jgo

something should be done to prevent drivers blocking emergency vehicles

lines in red on narrow roads to show width of vehicle and if if your car doesn’t fit park elsewhere ( not on pavement)

Yes this isn't an emergancy services vs wheelchair situation

I do! 😂

Where I live, there are a few narrow streets where you can only park on one side of the street. If you park on the wrong side you risk being ticketed and also towed.

During the snow season, if we get more than 2 inches of snow, all main streets have a parking ban, and all side streets are one side parking only on alternate days. On odd number days, you can park on the odd number side and even days you can park on the even number side (house numbering system is very systematic). This is to allow ploughs to clear snow effectively.

This is clever

I live in a cul de sac of 9 houses.
Every house has enough room to park 2 cars on their driveway.
There’s regularly 2 vehicles, often work vans parked each side at the entrance to our cul de sac.
I struggle to get through with my car, emergency services wouldn’t get in.

It’s the 30/40 year olds that each park one car on the road. All us old folk park on our drives.
They don’t want to move cars around, they want to jump straight in and go.

And it makes it seem like disabled people are the bad guys for stopping emergency services from getting through

I thought everyone know that disabled people are the cause of all societies problems ?

(Note to self, get my radio fixed. It only seems to pick up Tory FM at the moment).

Park on the pavement, even one wheel, in London outside the zones where a kerbside notice and white lines indicate parking is allowed on the pavement- and you will get a ticket.

A fire engine turning into our road had to go back out and round a big block to get to a house with flames pouring out of the roof because of parking too close to a junction. There are double yellows there now.

It depends on the pavement. The pavement outside my house is wide enough to park a car with two wheels on it and easily get a pram, wheelchair etc. past. In fact you can park with all four wheels on the pavement and still get past (I only know this because I was told by the police to do it on one occasion).

Exactly that. And I'd hazard a guess that more people have had accidents due to being forced into the road than dying because an ambulance couldn't get to them in time due to a narrow street.

We've had similar issues with fire engines near us, due to cars parked on corners (illegally).

😂

More people have accidents due to cars mounting the pavement than ambulances getting delayed ...

It should be that (if you don't have parking space on your property) you rent a parking space near your home and if a space isn't available within a distance that suits you, you can't have a car. Not the current free for all. Pay car parking provided for visitors

There are. This is near where I live. The cars are supposed to park half on the pavement

I live on a road where you have to park on the pavement on one side - and yes, there are council signs telling you to do so.

If both sides parked "properly" you wouldn't fit a normal car down, let alone the emergency services or the bin lorries. And before someone says it, no, there isn't somewhere else to park. The entire town centre is disc parking (so one hour only) and the only free car park is at Tesco which has a two hour limit anyway.

Blanket rules of "you shouldn't do x" simply
don't work when different areas of the country have such vast differences in infrastructure and space.

Normally if a road is too narrow for emergency vehicles, the local council will mark one side for parking, and the other side with yellow lines.
Also, depending on the width of the pavements, I have also seen roads, with parking marked as being half on the pavement and half in the road. I presume the council find this cheaper than redoing the pavement, aspecially as it has trees along each side. In this case the pavement was marked, but it still infuriates my DH, who says they should not be parking on the pavement. I think the pavement is still wide enough for wheelcairs and buggies to pass.
If cars are unable to park on one side (very narrow road), then both sides would have to be no parking.

Here in Scotland it is against the law to park on the pavement. If a road is too narrow for you to park shift your car and park elsewhere.

Where is the land for the parking spaces coming from? And what about those who can't walk to and from these rented parking spaces?

They shouldnt have to - and the person who blocks the road with their parked cars are complete morons but why do paramedics sit there with the blues flashing and sirens going? One could have got out and walked down the road - could they not? or is that too simple?

I went to London recently for the first time in years (used to live there in the 90s), and the residential streets all seemed so calm and orderly. No parking on the pavements, lots of streets blocked to cars driving through- and the air is so clean now! You can run your finger along random bits of street furniture and it won't come away black!

They need to roll this kind of traffic management out nationwide.

If there's no other option but to park on the pavement forcing pedestrians and WU into the road. Then you find somewhere else to park.

This.

Ive already given examples of instances where I and other professionals have to visit clients. Sometimes I have to park half on the pavement, theres nothing else for it, there isnt 'somewhere else to park' because the road is surrounded by similar roads and the main road they are off, are busy A roads which dont have pavements or parking.

Where would I park to complete my job? Even if there was something half a mile away I physically cannot get to the actual road I need on foot. I dont live where there is adequate public transport. There is a local bus to local towns but lots of places where you cant walk, unlit, unpavemented country lanes, narrow, twisting, so you might get a bus somewhere but be unable to make it to your final destination

The nearest city has a bus here which stops at 530, you cant get home later

Grew up in an area with lots of terraces housing, it’s not possible to always park somewhere else without defeating the object of having a car. Most people that park on pavements are not fully on the pavement, so there should be enough room for the average sized human being with a single pushchair or wheelchair to get through. The issue in my experience for buggy and wheelchair users, those partially sighted is the state of the pavements and other obstructions coming from gardens, such has bushes, not people partially parking on pavements.

Let's face it, there are a lot of dickheads around among car drivers, bikers, cyclists and those on foot who are so bloody entitled in so many ways.

We have those half pavement parking spaces on lart of our road in London. Trouble is:

• that often doesn't leave enough room for even able bodied peolle to get past due to ever larger cars and shit parking.

• many car drivers are dicks so park fully on the pavement and on the pavement on parts of the road where it isn't permitted.

I often walk up with heavy bags of shopping. It is a shame how often a heavy bag of cans accidentally hits a car when I am trying to squeeze past.

Did you miss the word "should" from @soupfiend's post?

There are places where you should park on the pavement because that's where you are meant to park.

There's a blanket ban on pavement parking throughout London - except where the local authority has authorised it, as here:

75 Darwin Dr - Google Maps

That's how you are meant to park to the right of that sign - two wheels on the footpath.

@soupfiend is most definitely not saying that you should park on the pavement if it would obstruct wheelchair users and other pavement users.

Parking on a pavement does not necessarily mean that other users are automatically obstructed. It obviously depends on the width of the pavement