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Is it wrong to expect a child free catch up?!

55 replies

Kmward36 · 02/11/2024 14:47

I’ve been best friends with this person for 15 years. Long before we had children (and when we lived in separate cities) we always caught up once month, went on about 10 holidays/ city breaks a year and spoke daily.

we both now have young children ( I have DD 4 and DD 2, she has DS4). I work full time and she works part time. We both have husbands. I live in the same village as my parents (husbands parents live 5 hours away). She lives in the same home as parents in law, her parents live in the next village. All happy to babysit.

we meet every half term etc with the kids (soft play etc), sometimes on a weekend. Always with the kids, which is lovely but I’ve told her it would be nice to meet up at least twice a year without them. She has said she’d love to but says it’s impossible with kids. I just think this is not true. I meet up with friends ( as does my husband) in couples or separately and we either have the kids for the night whilst the other goes out or grandparents if we go out together.

she claims she can’t fit it in. She finishes work at 3pm, Monday to Wednesday. I work 7-7 Monday, Tuesday and Thursday.

ive offered Fridays as we’re both off and I’d arrange childcare for my youngest, coffee or dinner after work, a coffee and a walk in the evening, drinks at the weekend, activities such as wreath making etc. a proper variety. 4 years later and she hasn’t agreed to one. Not even for birthdays. She’s adamant she wants to meet up but just can’t think of a suitable way!

Is this ridiculous or is this reasonable for others? I’m just fed up of it.

OP posts:
ItsTheGAGGGGGGGG · 02/11/2024 18:54

TarnishedTrophy · 02/11/2024 15:06

I think you need to accept that, for whatever reason, she doesn’t want to, or isn’t able to, meet you without the children.

Yes, this

freshlaundrysmell · 02/11/2024 18:58

Kmward36 · 02/11/2024 17:10

As an example I’ve booked to spend the night in Bath for the Christmas market (with the girls I graduated with).

I told her in passing last week over the phone and I got a reply about how disappointed she was as we used to do the Christmas markets together and she’d love to visit the markets again. I then get a lecturer about how I’m forgetting her.

I suggested we go to another market ( a local one that can be a day trip or an overnight stay slightly further away) and she says lovely, can the kids come? I said they’d hate a market (mine would) so suggested the stay at home and she says maybe next year 🤷🏻‍♀️ but would I cancel my trip until the following year too. I explained I was really looking forward to it and we’d already paid. She was ok with it but was upset for the rest of the call.

Ok, at first I thought YABU because her husband is useless and she cant leave her kids but fck me- where does she get off getting angry at you for going out without her? she is being very unreasonable here - how dare she?

Sorry but there's no way I'd continue a friendship if someone tried to control what I did with other friends - thats batshit

WaitingForMojo · 02/11/2024 18:59

LuckySantangelo35 · 02/11/2024 16:04

@Minadka

do people get sick of having fun? Do women lose the desire to have fun when they have children?

What people consider to be fun can change a lot!

Kmward36 · 03/11/2024 11:36

As an update, I had a very open conversation with her this morning about how I enjoy doing days out with and without the children and I understand if she doesn’t but I do want to be allowed to do this with other people without a guilt trip.

she agreed and said she would love to spend time without the children and is very jealous I get to do both. She doesn’t know why but she feels it’s really difficult to leave her son because of mum guilt.

she has agreed to let me know when she’s ready to go out child free and is happy for me to socialise with others (as long as I don’t tell her as she feels very left out). Not ideal but better than nothing!

thanks for all of the advice x

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BruFord · 03/11/2024 16:31

@Kmward36 She may feel less guilty as her son settles into school and builds a life away from her.

Her jealousy about you doing things with other friends is immature though, she needs to get over it. I’m delighted when my friends go out and have fun, because I want them to be happy. I don’t always need to be involved…mind you, I’m 50 and sometimes cba to do anything (see the funny thread about menopausal women and cba-ness”) 🤣

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