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Haven’t paid rent in months!

538 replies

Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:13

I’ve just realised I haven’t paid my rent in around 6 months! I don’t know how this could have happened?
ive lived here around 4 years. All I can think is I set up a standing order a while ago and it didn’t work properly?
now, I have pretty severe MH problems. Awful anxiety and depression(probable ADHD but still waiting for an appointment to start the process). I never check my bank, I’m behind with other bills, too. I’m a bury my head in the sand type of person, but worry constantly about everything, About a month ago I hit rock bottom. Won’t go into details, but it wasn’t great.
I have 3 DC, and I’m on benefits.
Help! What do I do?! Had a text from landlord last night asking me to call him, which is what’s just prompted me to look now. I was asleep when he text.

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SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 18:37

I suspect op’s landlord’s death coinciding with her bank suddenly “accidentally” deleting her standing order details are far from coincidental.
Did you hope it would go unnoticed in all the confusion, op?

pompey38 · 31/10/2024 18:39

Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:20

No. He hasn’t said a thing, and we’ve spoken a couple of times about other things in that time.
I haven’t got the money now. The col has absolutely crippled me.

Oh please , col wiped out 6 months of rent ? i call 🐂 on this

LakieLady · 31/10/2024 18:42

And yes, I do know what it is like to have severe MH issues but if isn’t plausible that the OP has spent 6 months rent without realising she had it.

When my bipolar DB had his second manic episode, he managed to spend £20k he didn't have in 3-4 months, didn't pay his mortgage and had his flat repossessed. He didn't even end up with anything to show for it, either - had absolutely no clue what he'd actually bought.

I find it perfectly credible.

Pickandmixmood · 31/10/2024 18:53

LakieLady · 31/10/2024 18:42

And yes, I do know what it is like to have severe MH issues but if isn’t plausible that the OP has spent 6 months rent without realising she had it.

When my bipolar DB had his second manic episode, he managed to spend £20k he didn't have in 3-4 months, didn't pay his mortgage and had his flat repossessed. He didn't even end up with anything to show for it, either - had absolutely no clue what he'd actually bought.

I find it perfectly credible.

Of course reckless behaviour is a well known symptom of mania but the OP doesn’t have bipolar.
I still say that it isn’t plausible that she didn’t realise that the six months rent was still in her account and managed to spend it all anyway despite struggling with the COL
crisis.
If the OP would return to the thread it might become clearer.

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 19:03

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:33

Priority bills come first.

I imagine the extra has been spent on a 1st December box, matching Xmas pjs and other unnecessary tat.

Imagine a world without mental illness...

Todaywasbetter · 31/10/2024 19:04

It was a cruel trick to play on a grieving father.

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 19:05

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 18:37

I suspect op’s landlord’s death coinciding with her bank suddenly “accidentally” deleting her standing order details are far from coincidental.
Did you hope it would go unnoticed in all the confusion, op?

Seriously?

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 19:06

usererror99 · 31/10/2024 16:53

You can easily spend more than you realise

Not by several hundred pounds per month when you are already on a low income ....

She might have had her heating on, perhaps paying with a successful standing order?

Todaywasbetter · 31/10/2024 19:08

yes, probably had the heat on over this summer,

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 19:12

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 19:05

Seriously?

Yes.

Cyclingmummy1 · 31/10/2024 19:12

shellyleppard · 31/10/2024 07:47

@ByQuaintAzureWasp universal credit won't pay rent directly to the landlord unless you are in significant arrears. I asked if I could pay my rent directly to the landlord and that was their answer 😳😳

Is this a recent change? Our current tenant has always had it paid directly.

shellyleppard · 31/10/2024 19:24

@Cyclingmummy1 i think if you sort it when you first claim universal credit it can be paid directly. I tried changing mine and they said no. My bad I should have set it up when I first claimed

LakieLady · 31/10/2024 19:25

Pickandmixmood · 31/10/2024 18:53

Of course reckless behaviour is a well known symptom of mania but the OP doesn’t have bipolar.
I still say that it isn’t plausible that she didn’t realise that the six months rent was still in her account and managed to spend it all anyway despite struggling with the COL
crisis.
If the OP would return to the thread it might become clearer.

I didn't say the OP was bipolar, but I have also supported clients with other MH issues who have poor impulse control and find dealing with things like budgeting and checking bank accounts incredibly difficult. Clients with EUPD and/or ADHD are disproportionately represented among my debt and financial capability caseload.

Cyclingmummy1 · 31/10/2024 19:27

shellyleppard · 31/10/2024 19:24

@Cyclingmummy1 i think if you sort it when you first claim universal credit it can be paid directly. I tried changing mine and they said no. My bad I should have set it up when I first claimed

That would explain it, it was right from the beginning of the tenancy.

Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2024 19:30

Person I feel most sorry for is the guarantor. One of my mum's friend's went guarantor for her when we were registered homeless when I was a teenager and my mum had no credit due to living abroad so could not (I think) buy any furnishings on HP. Sad I doubt too many people have a spare £££ amounting to six months worth of rent sitting around in their account that they wouldn't miss.

Hope OP can get something sorted that doesn't cause the guarantor financial hardship.

ConsistantlyForget33 · 31/10/2024 19:33

noaccess · 31/10/2024 07:02

I can completely see how this is done actually - people are assuming you’re going out and buying a couple of big purchases for a couple of hundred but what is more likely is that it’s a small accumulation. There was a thread about this the other day. You go to the park and buy a hot chocolate; you go for a walk and have to pay for parking, you take the children to soft play and buy lunch. Nip to the co op and get a couple of things for dinner, drive to a new park and a bit more on petrol. It’s those sort of things.

When you have no money you don’t check your banking apps because they just tell you what you already know: you have no money. It’s when you have money, even if not much, you keep an eye on it.

Whilst I agree it's easy to spend through small purchases, that cant be what happened here as OP says the COL has crippled them, cant see OP going on days out ect in these circumstances

I think truthfully, the OP was aware she was overspending her rent, probably kept meaning to put it back and now it's gone too far

TwigletsAndRadishes · 31/10/2024 19:38

Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:20

No. He hasn’t said a thing, and we’ve spoken a couple of times about other things in that time.
I haven’t got the money now. The col has absolutely crippled me.

So you never check your bank account and didn't notice that your rent wasn't being paid, or that all this extra money was in your accounf, and yet you did manage to notice that the COL crisis was crippling you?

Come on now OP. Both those things can't be true, can they?

DaphnesCafe · 31/10/2024 20:00

StevieNic · 31/10/2024 11:47

@SilverChampagne most landlords are leeches, having their mortgage paid by somebody else

No, they aren’t.

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 20:19

DaphnesCafe · 31/10/2024 20:00

No, they aren’t.

I wonder if Mumsnet would tolerate housing benefit claimants being described as 'leeches, having their mortgage rent paid by somebody else'?

Dagnabit · 31/10/2024 20:25

Presumably you’ve been receiving UC housing costs but not using it for rent? I very much doubt that you will get DHP - you certainly wouldn’t get it here because you’ve had the rent money, you’ve just spent it on other things. I would speak to the landlord and ask him or her if they would accept a payment plan then your UC will cover ongoing rent and you can pay the extra. Also, take steps to sort out your other debts - you need to keep a roof over those children’s heads

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/10/2024 20:42

@Uppoopcreek so what happened today

did you speak to landlord

I still can’t see how you spent 400/1000 a month for 6mths

so £2.6/6k without reliesing it

I don’t know you area so took a guess in rent - could be even more in in south east and assume have 2/3 bed if 3 kids

3 beds near me are £1700
and 2 around £1300/1400

as I said before the landlord is also to blame. Why he didn’t contact you the day after rent didn’t appear in his account

Blondeshavemorefun · 31/10/2024 20:44

Butchyrestingface · 31/10/2024 19:30

Person I feel most sorry for is the guarantor. One of my mum's friend's went guarantor for her when we were registered homeless when I was a teenager and my mum had no credit due to living abroad so could not (I think) buy any furnishings on HP. Sad I doubt too many people have a spare £££ amounting to six months worth of rent sitting around in their account that they wouldn't miss.

Hope OP can get something sorted that doesn't cause the guarantor financial hardship.

Same

I hope the friend the guarantee won’t find it hard to get the money

I was a guarantee once. Said about it before on Another thread

for family

i will never ever do it again as I was left paying the loan / no choice

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 20:54

I remember when Amigo were constantly advertising guarantor loans @ 50% APR. They marketed it as a kind of old school nice way to go about things.

https://www.amigoloans.co.uk/guarantor-loans

I'm reality, you might as well just lend your friends/family the money because if/when they default you're on the hook for the whole amount + 50% APR anyway.

I fear the OP's guarantor is about to get shafted.

Pickandmixmood · 31/10/2024 20:58

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 20:54

I remember when Amigo were constantly advertising guarantor loans @ 50% APR. They marketed it as a kind of old school nice way to go about things.

https://www.amigoloans.co.uk/guarantor-loans

I'm reality, you might as well just lend your friends/family the money because if/when they default you're on the hook for the whole amount + 50% APR anyway.

I fear the OP's guarantor is about to get shafted.

They say that no good deed goes unpunished and the poor guarantor is about to find that out.

Bachboo · 31/10/2024 21:02

noaccess · 31/10/2024 07:02

I can completely see how this is done actually - people are assuming you’re going out and buying a couple of big purchases for a couple of hundred but what is more likely is that it’s a small accumulation. There was a thread about this the other day. You go to the park and buy a hot chocolate; you go for a walk and have to pay for parking, you take the children to soft play and buy lunch. Nip to the co op and get a couple of things for dinner, drive to a new park and a bit more on petrol. It’s those sort of things.

When you have no money you don’t check your banking apps because they just tell you what you already know: you have no money. It’s when you have money, even if not much, you keep an eye on it.

I’m sorry but this is absolute rubbish. You don’t fritter away a few grand and not know about it

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