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Haven’t paid rent in months!

538 replies

Uppoopcreek · 31/10/2024 00:13

I’ve just realised I haven’t paid my rent in around 6 months! I don’t know how this could have happened?
ive lived here around 4 years. All I can think is I set up a standing order a while ago and it didn’t work properly?
now, I have pretty severe MH problems. Awful anxiety and depression(probable ADHD but still waiting for an appointment to start the process). I never check my bank, I’m behind with other bills, too. I’m a bury my head in the sand type of person, but worry constantly about everything, About a month ago I hit rock bottom. Won’t go into details, but it wasn’t great.
I have 3 DC, and I’m on benefits.
Help! What do I do?! Had a text from landlord last night asking me to call him, which is what’s just prompted me to look now. I was asleep when he text.

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BruFord · 31/10/2024 15:08

@EagerExpert I’m assuming that the guarantor won’t want to see the OP and her children homeless-I’m not saying that loaning money is financially sensible, just trying to come up with possible solutions.

I don’t honestly think that the landlord will agree to a long term payment plan with the OP unless she can come up with at least part of the arrears owed quickly, do you?

SoNiceToComeHomeTo · 31/10/2024 15:12

We don't know how the LL will react but he hasn't noticed the missing money so he clearly isn't relying on it, and therefore might act generously towards a tenant who clearly has problems. It is somewhat in his interests, because evicting a tenant is a slow and ghastly process for both parties. He might be willing to accept just a proportion of the money owed if OP agrees to move out immediately, and accept an IOU for the rest to be paid whenever the tenant can manage it.
I'm saying this as a LL - I wouldn't want to pressurise a desperate tenant for rent, or ask the guarantor, but I would want the person to move out to somewhere they could more easily afford and sort out benefits rather than staying there accruing more and more unpaid rent.

ballybooboo · 31/10/2024 15:17

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 14:17

What guilt trip a recently bereaved parent?

'Ah whoops I've spent all my rent, don't be mean and expect me to pay..
You don't really need it'

You’ve misunderstood what I’ve written. I said nothing about guilty tripping or manipulating, just an honest conversation.

ballybooboo · 31/10/2024 15:21

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 14:25

Indeed 🤦‍♀️
That post is flabbergasting. “He’ll probably write off six months rent because he doesn’t really need it”.
What is wrong with some people’s thought processes?!

Some people genuinely dont need the money and it isn’t the main driver of their motives (the landlords didn’t notice for over6 months, I’m not suggesting this mean he doesn’t mind, but clearly it’s not the most important thing to him. It’s ok to think slightly differently to you isn’t it? Or is that not allowed?🚫

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:22

EagerExpert · 31/10/2024 14:12

The discretionary housing payment has eligibility criteria which doesn't cover people in receipt of benefits who 'forgot' to pay rent to a private landlord for 6 months and spent the money on something else.

I don't know what world some of these posters are living in where they're thinking yes, you already get benefits and if you whoopise forget to pay rent for six months but can't explain how you spent the extra thousands of pounds and didn't notice you were spending thousands of pounds more, the state will step in and pay off the arrears for you?

Unfortunately, I expect the taxpayer will pick up the tab. There are kids involved and it is illegal for them to be homeless and parents are fully aware of that fact.

The council will advise her to stay until she's formally evicted and then she will be emergency housed. They'll then almost certainly get a council house and the council will claim the rent direct from central government.

TallulahBetty · 31/10/2024 15:24

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:22

Unfortunately, I expect the taxpayer will pick up the tab. There are kids involved and it is illegal for them to be homeless and parents are fully aware of that fact.

The council will advise her to stay until she's formally evicted and then she will be emergency housed. They'll then almost certainly get a council house and the council will claim the rent direct from central government.

It's not illegal for children to be homeless. I think you mean that the LA have a legal duty to house them if they are legally homeless, which is quite different.

ThisOldThang · 31/10/2024 15:25

If it's illegal for the council to not house them, I'm not sure there's much difference at all.

TallulahBetty · 31/10/2024 15:26

Ilovecakey · 31/10/2024 13:44

Don't panic, you can apply for a discretionary housing payment to pay off the arrears. Also offer to pay your rent and and extra £20 or so every time while you wait for it. If you are on benefits can't you ask to have your rent paid directly to your landlord?

Do you have ANY idea how difficult it is to get a DHP, even with genuine reasons unlike the OP? I apply for them for people pretty much every week. There is no way that OP will get one because she forgot to pay. No way.

Treeinthesky · 31/10/2024 15:33

For a starters get your rent paid direct to him from your universal credit why are you not doing this already

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 15:50

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 14:37

So? You can rent your own property to whomever you please.

Is very confusing... are some posters saying so you MUST rent to people on benefits if they want your property?
So one flat, 27 people after it, 17 on benefits 10 not, it's illegal not to take all of the benefits people?

SilverChampagne · 31/10/2024 15:57

DoreenonTill8 · 31/10/2024 15:50

Is very confusing... are some posters saying so you MUST rent to people on benefits if they want your property?
So one flat, 27 people after it, 17 on benefits 10 not, it's illegal not to take all of the benefits people?

Of course that’s not how it works in reality, no matter what some idiots would have you believe.

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:05

It’s cheaper and easier for the council to pay off the arrears of someone with presumably demonstrable mental health issues who can show that they are in dire straits than to support a whole family through an eviction including temp accom which costs hundreds of pounds per week for however long it takes. In fact they can use a case like that to show that they are carrying out prevention work and have stopped someone from becoming homeless. Its not a solution to any of the problems raised but this is what happens in reality.

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:08

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:05

It’s cheaper and easier for the council to pay off the arrears of someone with presumably demonstrable mental health issues who can show that they are in dire straits than to support a whole family through an eviction including temp accom which costs hundreds of pounds per week for however long it takes. In fact they can use a case like that to show that they are carrying out prevention work and have stopped someone from becoming homeless. Its not a solution to any of the problems raised but this is what happens in reality.

Good point re being cheaper than emergency housing. But then the council should arrange a plan for her to pay it back to them. As it was clearly spunked up the wall. Neither the landlord or the council should be out of pocket here for something totally avoidable.

Yesiknowdear · 31/10/2024 16:09

StMarieforme · 31/10/2024 14:43

But if she owes 6 times say £800 that's £4800 so paying back at £50 would take 96 months! He's not going to do that!

I agree, the only way that OP stands any chance is if she offers to pay back the money quickly.

I got into arrears with my landlord when I was 20 odd, and they wanted the arrears paid back ASAP.

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:11

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:08

Good point re being cheaper than emergency housing. But then the council should arrange a plan for her to pay it back to them. As it was clearly spunked up the wall. Neither the landlord or the council should be out of pocket here for something totally avoidable.

I’ve seen this done before but quite a few years ago now and via a housing department after an eviction notice had been received rather than through housing benefit but can’t remember what it was called. Presumably they’d had specific funding.

usererror99 · 31/10/2024 16:14

There is no way that someone doesn't notice that the biggest bill they likely have hasn't been paid ....and for several months 🤔
Especially when monies already tight - where did she think the extra hundreds of pounds per month suddenly came from??

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:14

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:11

I’ve seen this done before but quite a few years ago now and via a housing department after an eviction notice had been received rather than through housing benefit but can’t remember what it was called. Presumably they’d had specific funding.

So many councils are going bankrupt these days that they may not be able or willing to do it. It does make sense though if the debt is gradually clawed back.

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:18

It came with certain conditions, engaging with budgeting support, setting direct payment to landlord for future payments and some other bits and pieces, the idea being that nobody could then just run up arrears again and expect them to just be dealt with repeatedly.

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:20

SlugLettuce · 31/10/2024 16:18

It came with certain conditions, engaging with budgeting support, setting direct payment to landlord for future payments and some other bits and pieces, the idea being that nobody could then just run up arrears again and expect them to just be dealt with repeatedly.

That sounds like a good scheme that also would be helpful for the tenants in learning new skills re budgeting.

listsandbudgets · 31/10/2024 16:21

OP are you sure you've had nothing from the landlord? Do you open your post or is part of burying your head in the sand ignoring it?

I find it hard to believe you've spent all the rent money without noticing bit it's done now so no point dwelling on it.

I hope you cam get this resolved for the sake of your children but also for yourself

PassingStranger · 31/10/2024 16:26

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 05:48

Did you read any of OPs opening? People in a similar situation often struggle to mamage finances.

You can't afford too when your running a home and have children.

Iwantabrightsunnyday · 31/10/2024 16:28

Make sure you have money coming in, roof over your head and the basics for the kids. That is not a joke

murasaki · 31/10/2024 16:33

Priority bills come first.

I imagine the extra has been spent on a 1st December box, matching Xmas pjs and other unnecessary tat.

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 16:33

PassingStranger · 31/10/2024 16:26

You can't afford too when your running a home and have children.

Silly response. MH doesn't just disappear if you have kids.

mathanxiety · 31/10/2024 16:35

Frequency · 31/10/2024 07:06

Personally, I'd put a roof over my children's heads above morals but maybe that is just me.

I don't think lying to the LL is a good idea, simply because the bank making a mistake for 6 months is not believable, nor do I think berating OP is helpful.

When you're on a low income checking your bank is hard. I try my best not to check mine atm. I despise transferring people money because it means logging into my bank and checking how much money I don't have.

Couple poverty with mental health issues and you've a potential recipe for disaster. OP knows she has fucked up, she doesn't need MN kicking her while she is down.

OP, in some circumstances you can get the rent element of UC paid directly to your LL. I would look into this and discuss with the LL this is your plan so you both know this can never happen again. Then you just need to work out how much of a top-up you can afford to pay each week/month and what the best way to pay is (bank transfer, standing order, cash dropped off through his door etc)

Yes, this rings very true.