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£3 busfares will ruin me

313 replies

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 14:56

Busfare cap to increase to £3. That’s £6 a day for buses. £10 extra a week.

My food budget for 1 person is £10 a week. So that’s my food money gone to pay for buses.

I can’t work more hours. I do what I can in working part time because I have health issues that would not qualify for PIP but affect me every day. Not qualifying for any benefits other than probably food bank use. Which I will now have to do.

AIBU to just start wondering what is the point? Life isn’t supposed to be like this. Some of us are just trying to survive with no enjoyment in life at all.

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stichguru · 30/10/2024 22:03

Would you qualify for a free bus pass? If so, it would half your bus expenditure.

purplebeansprouts · 30/10/2024 22:06

XenoBitch · 30/10/2024 17:30

Apparently, OP works as a childminder. You can't fire up Teams and do that from home.

She can change jobs, no one is stuck in one job

Viviennemary · 30/10/2024 22:08

Completelyjo · 30/10/2024 20:09

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare

In what world doesn’t an extra day at work mean you have £5 less a week in total?

OP means that her hours are spread over 5 days instead of 4. So no extra earnings. But more busfares. Can't understand why only £10 left for food unless lots of debt repayments.

Marsh3melz · 30/10/2024 22:28

@purplebeansprouts only in MN land.

TheDeepLemonHelper · 30/10/2024 22:30

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PurpleSky300 · 30/10/2024 22:40

Only £10 per week for food isn't enough. I don't know what kind of other support you're getting in terms of working benefits but I'm surprised that you haven't been referred to a foodbank a long time ago.

HecatesBees · 30/10/2024 22:48

Astrabees · 30/10/2024 21:27

She can’t afford to eat because she is spending her money on private weight loss jabs!

Source?

PickAChew · 30/10/2024 22:55

I didn't see her mention weight loss jabs anywhere.

ThisOldThang · 30/10/2024 22:58

Runssometimes · 30/10/2024 18:18

@AutumnLeaves24

a report from the cabinet office 2009 had these figures

COSTS
Road building and maintenance £9bn
Excess delays £10.9bn
Accidents £8.9bn
Poor air quality £7bn
Physical inactivity £9,8bn
Greenhouse gas emissions £2bn
Water pollution £5bn
Noise pollution £5bn
Total £57.6bn

INCOME
Vehicle excise duty £5.4bn
Fuel duty £24.9bn
Other taxes £17.8bn (VAT on fuel, car sales)
Total £48.1bn

Shortfall £9.5bn/year

and fuel duty has not increased since 2014. Public transport goes up every year. AND active travel infrastructure investment has actually been cut and is literally a fraction of what is spent on road infrastructure,

that’s also before you account for the costs of pollution on health,

remember that E-vehicles generate no VEH but as they are so heavy it’s thought that they damage the roads more which is something we all pay for to repair.

What a load of bollocks.

COSTS
Road building and maintenance £9bn
Excess delays £10.9bn - not a cost for the taxpayer.
Accidents £8.9bn
Poor air quality £7bn - number plucked out of the air.
Physical inactivity £9,8bn - not a cost for the taxpayer and no different to sitting on a bus or train.
Greenhouse gas emissions £2bn - number plucked out of the air.
Water pollution £5bn - number plucked out of the air.
Noise pollution £5bn - ??? not a cost for the taxpayer.

Total £57.6bn £17.9bn

I've honestly never seen such a shameless and desperate attempt to prove something with numbers.

OneBadKitty · 30/10/2024 22:59

People aren't being fully supportive because you have started a thread complaining about bus fares but give no reasons as to why you are living on such a tight food budget.

Spendysis · 30/10/2024 23:00

Have you checked you are getting everything you are entitled to have you applied for pip? As £10 or £15 per week for food isn't enough on a long term basis
Are you paying off debt? If so could you negotiate a payment plan

Whatifitallgoesright · 30/10/2024 23:27

Deportationsensation · 30/10/2024 18:51

mumsnet never fails.

I have replied because I was WORKING.

Hair extensions were a gift because having nicer hair is the one thing that makes me feel better since I can’t afford new clothes etc all the time. theyre bought for me each year by my DM for my birthday.

Yes budget is usually is £15 but is now £10 as I do an extra day at work (same hours just spread out) meaning additional busfare.

and to one of the first posters who said I should work more hours, the last time I did that things got so bad I attempted suicide.

I don’t know why this site claims to be supportive. Vipers indeed.

I knew that was going to happen. Some people have no idea. Lucky them.

PuddlesPityParty · 31/10/2024 05:37

XenoBitch · 30/10/2024 21:46

A few other people mentioned the PP who made the point that she was disabled so could work full time, so OP could. Why did you pick on me in particular?

Because my replies were nothing to do with that!! You’re not reading what I put or what the people I was replying to put. You keep harping on to me about it but nowhere was I involved in that conversation!! The PP who mentioned it was not the person I was replying to. Like I said READ what you’re replying to first.

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 06:07

HalloweenHaribo · 30/10/2024 17:16

£10 a week for a balanced diet and basic needs is not sustainable.

I think the OP made a typo.

We were on the same thread the day before yesterday and she said £15 per week.

Neither are sustainable unless you have other sources of free food.

wiesowarum · 31/10/2024 06:09

iamtheblcksheep · 30/10/2024 18:33

No it isn’t. It’s realism. I would claw my way to work on my hands and knees to put food on the table and pay my bills. If you can’t work because you are physically too disabled to do so that’s one thing but the OP said she wasn’t entitled to any benefits and would have no food. Therefore her choices are claw her way to work on her hands and knees or starve to death. Which would you do?

You wouldn't just walk normally then? Less painful. More efficient. Less strange looks.

CalicoPusscat · 31/10/2024 06:16

I'm a bit surprised public transport costs will rise as I thought the whole point was to help with CoL and reduce pollution and reliance on cars.

I do empathise @Deportationsensation

purplebeansprouts · 31/10/2024 06:19

CalicoPusscat · 31/10/2024 06:16

I'm a bit surprised public transport costs will rise as I thought the whole point was to help with CoL and reduce pollution and reliance on cars.

I do empathise @Deportationsensation

Thing is fuel prices have gone up so to subsidise to £2 is probably no longer sustainable. OP I suggest looking to see if there is a way to save on a bulk ticket or something and try and save for one of those. I know it sounds awful but christmas is coming up could you ask for cash instead of gifts this year from eg your mum?

maddening · 31/10/2024 06:23

I don't know what your qualifications or skillsets are but could you consider different work that, for example, lets you work from home so no bus fares and you could then use the time you would have been commuting to work - so reduce costs and increase hours at the same time?

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SustangMally · 31/10/2024 09:41

OP could you ask your mum this Xmas to get you a bus pass? Not exciting but bit would save yiu long term getting you a month ahead if she did this and maybe some vouchers for a supermarket? Means by time you are paid again you would have the spare money to get your bus pass again without leaving yourself short?

Anywherebuthere · 31/10/2024 09:43

Would a daysaver or bus pass work out cheaper? I agree the increase from £2 to £3 is a lot.

Deportationsensation · 31/10/2024 09:49

Astrabees · 30/10/2024 21:27

She can’t afford to eat because she is spending her money on private weight loss jabs!

I’m 9 and a half stone.. why would I need weight loss jabs?

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Deportationsensation · 31/10/2024 09:53

SustangMally · 31/10/2024 09:41

OP could you ask your mum this Xmas to get you a bus pass? Not exciting but bit would save yiu long term getting you a month ahead if she did this and maybe some vouchers for a supermarket? Means by time you are paid again you would have the spare money to get your bus pass again without leaving yourself short?

i get you’re trying to be helpful but this is quite literally what I mean by what is the point? I’m not being pedantic but genuinely what is the point to living a life where you have to ask for a bus pass do Christmas and the only thing you can do is go to work.

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Bjorkdidit · 31/10/2024 09:57

But you have to be realistic about your expectations. Spending money, whether directly or indirectly, ie by choosing that as a gift, on something as unnecessary as hair extensions and false eyelashes is utterly ridiculous when you can't afford to eat properly. It makes people lose all sympathy for your situation.

Deportationsensation · 31/10/2024 09:59

OneBadKitty · 30/10/2024 22:59

People aren't being fully supportive because you have started a thread complaining about bus fares but give no reasons as to why you are living on such a tight food budget.

Because people who are actually living on the breadline and in poverty have already explored every option available to them. I don’t need women to pick apart my finances.

This isn’t one of those threads that goes ‘combined income for 60k but we hardly have anything left’. I don’t have debt. I don’t have a car, a phone contract, any direct debits at all. I don’t have Netflix or Disney or Amazon. I’ve said I have as little money as I do because I work in part time due to health reasons that aren’t recognised by my GP, the DWP. No one has taken me seriously.

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