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Working night shift when clocks go back

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:30

I can't find a consistent answer to this online. DP is working a night shift tonight as overtime when the clocks go back, so he will technically end up doing 13 hours instead of 12. Will he be paid for that extra hour? Does anyone know how this works?

Thanks

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Willsnbills · 26/10/2024 13:31

I don’t imagine so, does he get an hour less when the clocks go forward?

Frequency · 26/10/2024 13:32

It depends on company policy, some pay the extra hour, some don't.

Farmgoose · 26/10/2024 13:32

In my office yes it is paid. We work annualised hours so it comes off the total of hours to be worked. 13 hrs are recorded.

Arlanymor · 26/10/2024 13:32

Totally depends on his contractual obligations - if his contract states he must work specific times, then he will need to work the extra hour for the same pay.

There isn't a universal answer or legal to this, it's whatever he has signed up to with the organisation that he works for. He needs to ask them.

HaPPy8 · 26/10/2024 13:33

On my nhs trust you don’t sadly!

vodkaredbullgirl · 26/10/2024 13:33

We get paid an extra hour, I've got work tonight.

Dontletthebedbugsbite2 · 26/10/2024 13:33

We never got it in the NHS. They said it evened out because we worked an hour less when they went forward - annoyingly I never worked that shift! Also annoying for medication doses etc.

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:33

Frequency · 26/10/2024 13:32

It depends on company policy, some pay the extra hour, some don't.

Ah ok, thank you. He's a prison officer, if that helps. I guess he'll just have to ask!

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Auburngal · 26/10/2024 13:35

It varies on company policy. If he works every Saturday night/Sunday morning then - what happened when the clocks went forward?

If he's on those rotating shifts - 4 on, 4 off, then doing early shifts.

Some employers may ask their staff to start/finish an hour earlier.

x2boys · 26/10/2024 13:35

I didn't when i worked as a nurse
But we could put it down as time owing
We were told ot was because you didn't get paid an hour less when the clocks went forward ,
But you cant guarantee the same person worked with night shifts.

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:36

Auburngal · 26/10/2024 13:35

It varies on company policy. If he works every Saturday night/Sunday morning then - what happened when the clocks went forward?

If he's on those rotating shifts - 4 on, 4 off, then doing early shifts.

Some employers may ask their staff to start/finish an hour earlier.

He doesn't consistently work every Saturday night, his shifts vary. I actually don't think he's worked a night shift on a day the clocks have changed before, so it's come up for us before.

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:36

Sorry, i meant it's*not come up for us before

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:37

@Dontletthebedbugsbite2
Ah yeah, I can imagine the medication doses are a nightmare with the clocks changing!

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Londonrach1 · 26/10/2024 13:38

NHS you don't but it can work and other way too when the clocks change again

ItTook9Years · 26/10/2024 13:38

If he’s salaried, unlikely.

if he’s hourly paid, he should be.

LlynTegid · 26/10/2024 13:38

I would assume if the extra hour not being paid, for some people it would be 13 hours as less than the minimum wage, though not in the case here I expect.

This should be clarified in the new Employment Rights Bill.

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:40

ItTook9Years · 26/10/2024 13:38

If he’s salaried, unlikely.

if he’s hourly paid, he should be.

He has a basic salary but any overtime is paid hourly yes.

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Auburngal · 26/10/2024 13:40

I did nights for 4 weeks many years ago and I remember to take an hour lieu any time from 28th Dec - end Jan. Couldn't take it earlier as working in a supermarket - wanted as much time worked in Nov and before Xmas.

Toddlerteaplease · 26/10/2024 13:41

We put it down as time owing.

confusedlots · 26/10/2024 13:42

I used to do hospital night shifts and no we didn't get paid any extra. It was just the luck of the draw if you were on the rota ether you ended up doing an extra hour for free. But also, if you're on the rota when the clocks go forward, you work an hour less but don't lose any money.

Frequency · 26/10/2024 13:54

When I worked in care we didn't get paid but the company tried to put you on when the clocks went forward too to even it out. It didn't always work out so sometimes you would lose the extra hour's pay.

When I worked 4 on, 4 off for an IT company they asked that the next shift started half an hour earlier so it was split between us.

PrimitivePerson · 26/10/2024 14:02

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:30

I can't find a consistent answer to this online. DP is working a night shift tonight as overtime when the clocks go back, so he will technically end up doing 13 hours instead of 12. Will he be paid for that extra hour? Does anyone know how this works?

Thanks

Why doesn't he ask his employer? Why would Mumsnet know?

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:05

Depends on the company, my DH's employer took the hit on BST and paid the full normal shift and also paid the extra hour for GMT.

Redglitter · 26/10/2024 14:08

We used to get an hours TOIL but in recent years they've changed it so the night shift start an hour later than normal

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:08

(Oh heck, just remembered what the cat will be like tomorrow. 2 hours of 'feed me now' screetching instead of the usual 1 hour)