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Working night shift when clocks go back

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:30

I can't find a consistent answer to this online. DP is working a night shift tonight as overtime when the clocks go back, so he will technically end up doing 13 hours instead of 12. Will he be paid for that extra hour? Does anyone know how this works?

Thanks

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 15:20

Why doesn't he ask his employer? Why would Mumsnet know?

There's literally always one 🙄

Yes, thank you for that robust advice. Of course he will ask him employer when he's able to, in the meantime I just did a quite normal thing of posting on a forum online to see if anyone knows anything about this. Hope that's ok with you?

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dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 15:21

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:08

(Oh heck, just remembered what the cat will be like tomorrow. 2 hours of 'feed me now' screetching instead of the usual 1 hour)

Yes I think also my toddler will be awake at 5am instead of 6am 🤦🏼‍♀️ (if I've done my working out correctly? Is it an hour later or earlier she'd wake when the clocks go back??) 😂

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PissedOffNeighbour22 · 26/10/2024 15:28

My DP doesn't get paid extra (emergency services). He's never on the shift where the clocks move forward. He's only ever on the one where he loses out 😑. He's not working this one for once though!

Didn't think about it affecting the toddler - urgh, we have that to look forward to at about 4:30am then.

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 15:32

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:40

He has a basic salary but any overtime is paid hourly yes.

Then he's working an extra hour so should be paid for an extra hour. That hour didn't not exist

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 15:34

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 15:21

Yes I think also my toddler will be awake at 5am instead of 6am 🤦🏼‍♀️ (if I've done my working out correctly? Is it an hour later or earlier she'd wake when the clocks go back??) 😂

Yes, they'll sleep the same number of hours but it'll be an hour earlier on the clock. Then, they'll be staying up an hour later at night and probably in a grump about it.

Unlike me, who's kids have flown the nest and I'll get an extra hour in bed 😀 (reality, I'll just be up earlier as bladders never get the memo)

LlynTegid · 26/10/2024 15:35

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:08

(Oh heck, just remembered what the cat will be like tomorrow. 2 hours of 'feed me now' screetching instead of the usual 1 hour)

I had not thought about the impact on animals, yet another reason to have either BST or GMT all year round.

Though there are many worse examples of cruelty towards animals. Random setting off of fireworks for starters.

Sprogonthetyne · 26/10/2024 15:37

At my work place you can claim the extra hour as overtime, though it varies

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 15:38

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:08

(Oh heck, just remembered what the cat will be like tomorrow. 2 hours of 'feed me now' screetching instead of the usual 1 hour)

Why wouldn't you get up earlier to feed it???

SauvignonBlanche · 26/10/2024 15:39

We’ve never been paid for it in the NHS but our pay isn’t docked in the spring either.

embolass · 26/10/2024 15:40

NHS we never got it , 28 yrs on wards. They just said up to u to make sure u work it when they go forward 🙄 typically the rota would be made up and no one would swap 🤬

Psychologymam · 26/10/2024 15:42

The NHS tend not to!

MumChp · 26/10/2024 15:44

Frequency · 26/10/2024 13:32

It depends on company policy, some pay the extra hour, some don't.

This! I have tried both no pay and pay as a nurse.

FamilyPhoto · 26/10/2024 15:50

Non NHS, also working tonight and no, paid as if a 12 hour shift.

BeyondMyWits · 26/10/2024 15:51

If you are on minimum wage or close, you should be paid or given time in lieu or it will take you under the legal requirement.

Createausername1970 · 26/10/2024 15:56

When I worked nights for a large food retailer 10 - 8, no I didn't, I got paid for 10 hours even though I was there 11 hours, but the same thing happened six months later and I got paid for 10 even though I was there 9 hours.

But every company has a different approach.

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 15:56

@BeyondMyWits
Not minimum wage, he's a prison officer.

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CatchingBabies · 26/10/2024 15:57

I work in the NHS and no we are not paid for the extra hour when the clocks go back, the same as we don’t lose an hours pay when they go forward.

Delphiniumandlupins · 26/10/2024 15:59

BibbityBobbityToo · 26/10/2024 14:08

(Oh heck, just remembered what the cat will be like tomorrow. 2 hours of 'feed me now' screetching instead of the usual 1 hour)

We adjust the dog's dinner time, gradually, over a week. When the clocks go forward you can see him smirking as he thinks we're confused.

motherofonegirl · 26/10/2024 16:01

In nursing he wouldn't get paid the extra hour as he has the chance to work an hour less when the clocks go the other way.

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 16:04

motherofonegirl · 26/10/2024 16:01

In nursing he wouldn't get paid the extra hour as he has the chance to work an hour less when the clocks go the other way.

That's ridiculous

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 16:05

embolass · 26/10/2024 15:40

NHS we never got it , 28 yrs on wards. They just said up to u to make sure u work it when they go forward 🙄 typically the rota would be made up and no one would swap 🤬

That should be illegal

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/10/2024 16:09

dreamer24 · 26/10/2024 13:30

I can't find a consistent answer to this online. DP is working a night shift tonight as overtime when the clocks go back, so he will technically end up doing 13 hours instead of 12. Will he be paid for that extra hour? Does anyone know how this works?

Thanks

When I was a student nurse, I was on nights when the clocks went back. We asked if we were paid for the extra hour and were told no, we weren’t, because staff on nights when the clocks went forward weren’t docked an hour’s pay.

In practice, the staff on the wards tried to give us longer breaks, so we got an hour in the middle of the night, and half an hour later on, essentially doubling the length of breaks we got - but that only worked if the ward was quiet enough.

I do remember how dispiriting it was, to see the clock go back at 2am, and know that the end of the night was now 7 hours away, not 6!

BashfulClam · 26/10/2024 16:14

My dad lost an hour then 6 months later he’d gain an hour. It evens out.

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 16:16

SDTGisAnEvilWolefGenius · 26/10/2024 16:09

When I was a student nurse, I was on nights when the clocks went back. We asked if we were paid for the extra hour and were told no, we weren’t, because staff on nights when the clocks went forward weren’t docked an hour’s pay.

In practice, the staff on the wards tried to give us longer breaks, so we got an hour in the middle of the night, and half an hour later on, essentially doubling the length of breaks we got - but that only worked if the ward was quiet enough.

I do remember how dispiriting it was, to see the clock go back at 2am, and know that the end of the night was now 7 hours away, not 6!

ridiculous you aren't the same staff

purplebeansprouts · 26/10/2024 16:18

BashfulClam · 26/10/2024 16:14

My dad lost an hour then 6 months later he’d gain an hour. It evens out.

Only if you're still working there on that day in 6 months time. Only if you're working at the clock change time. Only if you're not dead.

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