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40 years ago parents didn't stay with unwell babies?

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UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 20:40

Am I right in thinking that 40 years ago if a baby was taken to the big city hospital (from being born at the local town hospital i.e critically ill/likely to die) that the parents and definitely the dad did not go with them?

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Secradonugh · 24/10/2024 22:09

Definately 55 years ago it was the case. My mums biological child died after 2 months of being in hospital. Dad was told by nurses and docs not to see him. Mum was allowed to but only twice a week
She was told by ward matron to stop coming in because 'it wouldn't help the child and It's unfair on the nurses.' I think 40 years ago it did depend where you were.

DrCoconut · 24/10/2024 22:09

I was in hospital in 1986 aged 8 and my mum visited during daytime visiting hours (which were more generous on the children's ward than others).Once parents had left it was a fairly strict routine of teeth brushed etc, everyone into bed who wasn't already there, quiet time with a hot drink and then lights out. As I remember though there were more nurses on duty and they had to deal with the things that parents now do - baths, helping with toileting, comforting if upset etc. It was probably different if the child was very seriously or terminally ill, I hope so.

Teenagerantruns · 24/10/2024 22:10

I was I hospital when l was 11 for 2 days, for a minor op, and my parents were only allowed to visit for an hour in the evening.
I was quiet happy with my pony story book but a bit annoyed with the crying younger children on the ward.

Intheoldendays · 24/10/2024 22:11

I had many, many major surgeries from the age of 2 upwards, and my mother was never allowed to stay with me outside of visiting hours. It was horrific

Mumsgirls · 24/10/2024 22:11

Mine were in hospital then, I sat up in a chair, then brought a camp bed. Most of the night I was walking the floor with a crying baby. I was usually the only parent on the ward.Staff were mostly in the office and kids left to cry

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:11

Jollyjoy · 24/10/2024 22:09

That’s just not true. It stopped because we began to understand the lifelong importance of attachment figures in children’s healthy development. Physically safe doesn’t mean emotionally safe.

No it's because the NHS didn't want to staff it.

Intheoldendays · 24/10/2024 22:11

This was the late sixties and all through the 70s

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:12

And being constantly tethered to parents clearly hasn't done anything to improve the mental wellbeing of modern kids.

TalkedTooMuchStayedTooLong · 24/10/2024 22:12

I had an eye operation when I was 4 ( so about 48 year ago..yikes)... I was on a children's ward... parents only allowed at visiting time...

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 22:12

thorneyislanddoris · 24/10/2024 21:19

No that's not true. My little brother was born in 1978 and was very premature. My mum stayed with him the whole time. I remember my Nan looking after me because my mum wasn't there and my Dad was working and/ or at the hospital.

That's lovely. I wish my mum stayed with me.

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MargaretThursday · 24/10/2024 22:12

I was in the hospital 10 days with pneumonia when I was 3 in 70s. Mum could only visit during the afternoon.

Bettergetthebunker · 24/10/2024 22:13

I was definitely left at hospital at night without my parents. I remember being scared in the dark

BrendaSmall · 24/10/2024 22:13

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:01

24/7 with no respite and you miss work, other responsibilities? Even the idea you'd feel bad about this illustrates how hard parenthood is now. You don't need to be with them - they are in the safest place possible. It only stopped because of staff cuts.

All 3 of my children have been in hospital at one time or another, eldest was in SCBU after birth and I’ve stayed with every single one of them when they’ve had a hospital stay, even when my eldest was 17 years old and had surgery I stayed with her for the whole week, and every time I’ve been in the hospital with my children, my husband has had time off work to stay home with my other children!

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:14

BrendaSmall · 24/10/2024 22:13

All 3 of my children have been in hospital at one time or another, eldest was in SCBU after birth and I’ve stayed with every single one of them when they’ve had a hospital stay, even when my eldest was 17 years old and had surgery I stayed with her for the whole week, and every time I’ve been in the hospital with my children, my husband has had time off work to stay home with my other children!

Lucky you for having a husband able to do that and no other obligations of your own.

Saltisford · 24/10/2024 22:14

I was 4 in 1987 and was admitted to the hospital ward overnight with an asthma attack. My mum slept on some kind of pop up bed next to mine on the ward. I had three brothers at home including a one year old. I remember her commenting though how a two year old had been left on his own overnight on the ward and she thought it was terrible. My dad picked us up the next day after Ronald McDonald and his crew had made their rounds, loved it!

RosesAndHellebores · 24/10/2024 22:14

Hmm ds was in hospital in 1995 with severe bronchiolitis. He was in for a week aged 4.5 months. Apart from giving meds, the staff did sweet fa and the little babies who's parents weren't with them were just left to howl. The nurses were often chatting.

DD spent two nights in hospital in 2007 waiting for surgery on a badly broken leg. The nurses didn't even give pain relief by mouth, they gave it to me to give throughout the night. A couple of children came in whose parents couldn't stay because of other children at home. The children were not looked after, they cried and at breakfast no nurse bothered to get them as much as a pice of toast. The ward was not busy and the nurses spent a lot of time giggling and chatting shit at the nurses station.

Certainly for the last 25 years, staff have not been willing to put themselves out to look after sick children in my experience. Under no circumstances would I leave a child, or a parent in hospital alone nowadays.

KatyN · 24/10/2024 22:16

My son was moved hospital at 24 hours and I couldn't go with him. I wasn't allowed to move.

Maybe it was the norm then, but it still happens now. (He's 12)

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 24/10/2024 22:16

spookyscaryseagulls · 24/10/2024 21:09

1988 and 1993 I had spinal surgeries and was in for quite a few weeks. I was 9 and 14 no way was my mum allowed to stay and neither time I was on a children's ward . The second time was a week after my dad died but mum was still sent home at 8pm. Not sure if it was because my surgeon didn't have beds on the.childrens ward and my bed was in the orthopaedic wing with mostly elderly patients.

I’m sorry you went through that. 💐

ThomasPatrickKeatingsDegas · 24/10/2024 22:18

RosesAndHellebores · 24/10/2024 22:14

Hmm ds was in hospital in 1995 with severe bronchiolitis. He was in for a week aged 4.5 months. Apart from giving meds, the staff did sweet fa and the little babies who's parents weren't with them were just left to howl. The nurses were often chatting.

DD spent two nights in hospital in 2007 waiting for surgery on a badly broken leg. The nurses didn't even give pain relief by mouth, they gave it to me to give throughout the night. A couple of children came in whose parents couldn't stay because of other children at home. The children were not looked after, they cried and at breakfast no nurse bothered to get them as much as a pice of toast. The ward was not busy and the nurses spent a lot of time giggling and chatting shit at the nurses station.

Certainly for the last 25 years, staff have not been willing to put themselves out to look after sick children in my experience. Under no circumstances would I leave a child, or a parent in hospital alone nowadays.

Neither, having spent more than I ever wanted to with my daughter in hospital. Doctors didn’t give a shit either, left her without pain relief screaming for hours.

SkaneTos · 24/10/2024 22:18

My mother spent 3 weeks in hospital when she was around 8 years old. This was in the late 1950's (not in the UK).
Her parents were not allowed to visit her in hospital, the reasoning was that it would have been too emotional for her and them. But she was allowed visits from other relatives, so she had several aunts and uncles visiting her every other day, but her parents were not allowed. She enjoyed those visits, but she would have preferred a visit from her mother and father!

Beastiesandthebeauty · 24/10/2024 22:20

67 year ago I know my grandad was taken into hospital with pneumonia age 6. I know his parents were only allowed to visit once a week and he was scolded in a bath trying to break fever. I can't fathom how this was tolerated back then

BrendaSmall · 24/10/2024 22:22

OptimismvsRealism · 24/10/2024 22:14

Lucky you for having a husband able to do that and no other obligations of your own.

We both took time off work!
our children were and still are even though they’re now adults with their own children, our priority!

EilonwyWithRedGoldHair · 24/10/2024 22:23

I'm late 40's, apparently I was whisked away to another hospital and my DM wasn't able to go with me. She found it very upsetting.

I found it upsetting that DS was taken to a different part of the same hospital without me and I wasn't able to see him until the next morning.

UndertheCedartree · 24/10/2024 22:24

ReggaetonLente · 24/10/2024 21:22

She was three at the time. It wasn’t ideal but a distant memory now!

I do think that in UK hospitals parents end up doing a lot of the care - in paeds nurses are mainly administering drugs, in my experience, although that’s not to diminish the excellent job many of them do. In countries where the approach to medical care is different, it’s seen as unnecessary for parents to be there 24/7.

In some countries adults are also expected to be cared for/fed by family. The hospital just does the medical bit.

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belleager · 24/10/2024 22:25

I remember loving being in hospital as a five year old. Parents and grandparents visited during visiting hours - just in the evening. Everything was set up on the assumption parents weren't around during the day, so you had playtimes, nap times, story times, colouring time etc. All queued up and ate meals in a little dining room, some in wheelchairs. Same for TV time.

There were a couple of small toddlers on the ward and the assumption was that any mobile "big" children would be kind and play with them and keep them company. There were some children from "the country" whose families couldn't visit every day, and other people's parents would bring them sweets and little gifts.

I think none of us would have realized there was a possibility of parents staying, and the whole ward was set up on the assumption that children were looked after anyway. I suspect there were far more junior nurses. Big teenage girls used to wander in and play with us too. Must have been very hard for some, but it all felt very safe and predictable to me at that age and I loved it!

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