To be unsurprised at todays's Charity Watchdog finding, Trans charity Mermaids was mismanaged and gave dangerous advice to desperate children who deserved better

[Zahariel]

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/poor-governance-at-mermaids-amounted-to-mismanagement-inquiry-reveals

tl;dr - the whole thing was a disaster, giving out dangerous outdated advice that would literally physically hurt children, including breast binding and irreversible puberty blockers

Gender questioning children deserve far better, evidence based, holistic support and care to help them through these difficult periods in their lives. Mermaids did not give it.

I agree the report, which has taken 2 whole years, is disappointing and should have been more rigorous in its anaylsis. I just hope that the celebs and corporate sponsors back away from this deeply toxic organisation and that that results in its demise.

That sounds appalling and irresponsible from Mermaids. And very stressful for you. Have you been able to access any practical help since ?

My child is now an adult, but when we were going through this 12+ years ago Mermaids was the only source of 'support'.

We just had to muddle through as best we could, and waited until adulthood to do anything. There was nothing around in the way of help at that time.

My child is trans and on hormones now, but is very glad that I didn't allow any medicalisation in teenage years, as hard as it was at the time.

I set up a group for parents and kids in my area (life changes stopped me running it, but it's still going) with more neutral advice. There were 3 members from a 65 mile radius when it started, there are now around 100 members just from my small city.

& SG brought her child to Thailand to be castrated for his 16th birthday.

Honestly, this is a good result for Mermaids. The true scale of their incompetence, negligence and zealotry has been completely minimised.

I'm so sorry you and your child were let down. I think a lot of people in your situation approach Mermaids hoping for proper support and care and end up in an even more difficult position as a result. Well done for advocating for your child.

I agree.

This, but surely they are dead in the water. Their income streams have massively reduced and surely no corporates want to endorse them now?

But worse is why they did it - remember there’s a father too! They did it because the boy’s father appears to have been homophobic. He commented negatively on his son’s “feminine” tendencies

He didn't appear to be homophobic. They took his girl toys away and he only said he was a girl to get his toys back.

In the now deleted Ted Talk Susie Green said that when Jackie showed an early preference for "girls' toys" she assumed he would be gay and said she wouldn't have had a problem with that but it was a real problem for her husband. So yeah her husband was homophobic, but also, why the hell are you speculating about a toddler's future sexuality, you absolute weirdos?

Yes as I said, it wasn't an appearance, it was actual homophobia.

Also, he only said he was a girl to get his toys back. So he lost his whole future fertility and sexuality because wanted to play with dolls.

I wasn't speculating, I was commenting on what his own parents said and did.

Ah yes, I see what you were saying. It's so tragic. Playing with dolls isn't an early sign of anything, except perhaps that you'll be a good dad one day. But no, let's cut your balls off at 16 and ensure that you never get the chance.

The amount of homophobia in the trans movement is staggering

The Puberty Blockers were first used on girls whose parents didn't want lesbian daughters.

It isn't an amount of homophobia, it IS ALL homophobia.

The reason the claims that the CC decided hadn't happened was because they were discovered and whistle-blowed.

They weren't pulled out of the air. Their own ex staff showed that it had happened. So I do wonder which of them were contacted by the CC as part of the 2 year investigation.

the book "Time to think" catalogued the influence Mermaids had on the Tavistock right? It's there in black and white

@AlisonDonut I'm being circumspect in my language ... "alleging" all the way!

Yes! Hannah Barnes’ book details the strong connection that Mermaids (and Susie Green) had with the GIDS team. Green even referred kids to be added to the GIDS waiting list and she contacted GIDS and caused a fuss when certain kids on the waiting list weren’t given blockers.

In addition to the Cass Report and how some posters have tried to discredit it or have simply doubled down to tell us they ‘have the evidence’ that Cass is wrong, maybe, just maybe this latest development will add more criticism of the ‘affirming only’ treatment plans.

Here is a well known gender treatment doctor refusing to release the results of a review of patient outcomes. Imagine that…. Having evidence that can improve the lives of children and vulnerable people and refusing to release it. And I believe this is a different study to the another study we know was commissioned in the USA by a transgender centred organisation and never published.

https://archive.ph/sDGYb

All I think is that some people simply are not interested in evidence supported treatments, but in maintaining an ideological approach driven by self interested and personally invested people.

All medical procedures should be provided on the basis of sound evidence from properly conducted [and peer reviewed] research. Despite what should be 30+ years of evidence in trans gender medicine there is a lack of good quality research into the outcomes. During the Cass review most of the NHS adult transgender clinics had to be ordered to release their relevant data. @Helleofabore is right, the ideologues are just not interested or already know that the evidence will not support their arguments.

If anyone can believe it, Trans Reddit reckons the BBC are all TERFS - https://www.reddit.com/r/transgenderUK/comments/1gazknq/bbc_news_writes_article_in_a_biased_way_about/

I think most people know about Mermaids and The Nonce.

Is paedo still a trustee? Huw Edwards is after a job.

They don't like to contemplate actual facts, do they?

Don't forget the communications officer that self published the penis collage of themselves on a social media platform open to children and parents who use the MM services?

All around the same time as the paedophile supporter trustee was discovered.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11302231/Parents-children-used-trans-charity-call-probe-worker-posed-explicit-images.html

And we have posters on other threads who are saying 'no safeguarding issues here, you were all wrong'..... um.....