The Yorkshire Ripper question?

[PassingStranger]

Just read that it cost the taxpayer 11 billion to keep him alive including his funeral?
Do you still feel the same way about him being hung for his murders?

is it acceptable to the taxpayer to pay that much, when there are so many other things that the money could have been spent on, or dosent the money matter?

Yeah capital punishment has done so much to lower the murder rate in america. Oh wait it hasn't.

At least the state I live in doesn't practice the barbaric money wasting practice. And our murder rate is much lower than states that do execute criminals. Natural life in prison is the way to go. Sorry to disappoint the bloodthirsty.

^ This, exactly.

Of course it’s sad that Sutcliffe was a parasite as well as a killer.

Ewww.

Revenge by society would be worse, probably.

I cannot put a price to living in a society where the state can't murder me. So yeah, it's worth every penny.

If The Daily Mail state it, then it must be true....

Bring back the death sentence IMO. Especially more mass murderers like Sutcliffe.

So you are going to manage the prisoners on death row then?? You'd happily work in that environment? Manage these men who have nothing to lose? Supervise them and move them around the prison regime when our riding are NOTHING like the US ones set up for this??

No...didn't think so...very flippant comment

There was no doubt in this case and that goes for the vast majority of cases. Huge advances in forensics, DNA testing, almost blanket CCTV, ring door bells, texts and videos on mobile phones etc have made it almost impossible to be wrongly convicted. This will become ever more so as the years progress. Prisons are overcrowded and the country is broke. They're letting convicts out for god's sake. Given all of that I think we should have the death penality where the evidence is irrefutable. I also think we should increase sentencing for drunk/drug drivers and re-examine the definition of manslaughter.

cancel the cheque people please lol - drop the 11 million or billion and carry on about the rest - i am fascinated

I thought i was pro death penalty in 100% proof of multiple cases of murder but now I realise there's no such guarantee and I am re thinking

not that anyone will read this and notice anything but the billion million comment lol

Well it would cost a hell of a lot less if they weren't housed in luxury. A concrete cell with no tv, no games consoles or a comfortable mattress, One hour of exercise and 2 library books a week would cost much less.

That wouldn't be allowed....no matter how much you think you want it

If the IMB saw it....

I'd also recommend the BBC's The Yorkshire Ripper Files by film-maker Liza Williams which explores how misogyny and attitudes to women in the 1970s derailed the investigation. It includes interviews with the adult children of some of the victims, the ones who were described as prostitutes as opposed to the other victims who were described as 'totally respectable women'. Their testimony is heartbreaking.

I was a child but I remember my dad being late home one night due to all the lorry drivers at his depot being questioned

The police were all over it and visible on the streets. Foot patrols s asks a van/car on the ends of local streets. It dominated the news for days too. All Unlike nowadays

housed in luxury

I assume @Getonwitit that you are posting a satirical response?!

I've never been inside a prison, thankfully, but I really doubt that anyone could describe incarceration in prison as 'luxury'!

Must be 'brilliant' if it's in the Grauniad! If we have to keep there murderers in prison for the rest of their lives they should not have endless free access to Legal Aid once convicted.

Should they be given the option of death rather than spend the rest of their days in prison?

A lot of those costs would exist anyway, it wasn't 11m wasted on him personally.

No prison isn't 'luxury' but it should be clean, basic needs met with support in place for those who need it

Fit for humans in other words

I’d love to see where they go for their “luxury” holidays.

Watch The long Shadow, one black woman was assumed to be a prostitute and her account ignored because she was black and she, like others, said it was a white man. The ending would be brilliant, if there wasn't thirteen victims, that could have been avoided.

Go on then. Define 'luxury'

Nobody is in luxury in a U.K. prison

As someone who has worked in a prison, they're definitely not luxury! 😆

People are sent to prison AS punishment, not FOR punishment. The lock them up and throw away the key brigade tend to forget that if you treat people badly, it's even less likely to change someone's offending behaviour, which is already incredibly difficult for a multitude of reasons. I often wonder if they'd feel a little differently if they or one of their relatives ended up in prison...

Of course the above is general, not about Sutcliffe specifically. I don't think he could ever have been rehabilitated. He was sentenced to life for his crimes and that was what he served. Would I like to have been the one locking him up? No. But it's one of those jobs where you have to be able to put personal feelings aside and be professional.