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AIBU?

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I think I probably am, but I am still furious at DH even tho he has 'apologised'

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Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:05

A friend came over yesterday evening. A mutual friend who we have not seen since xmas, lost touch a bit.
It was arranged in the morning, via text. DH knew she was coming, in fact sent the confirmation text to her as I was driving. We had no other plans.

She comes over with her 14yo son, we all have a cuppa, then DH calls a friend and when he gets off phone announces friend has asked him to go over, he does not know why, but he 'needs' to go out.

After another cuppa and a general chat about nothing much he goes out at 10pm. Comes home at, god knows what time, after 12:30am as friend stayed late with me.

I asked him last night not to go, said cant it wait whatever they wanted. He did not really discuss it, just sort of, laughed. I made my feelings as clear as I could without getting into an argument in front of friend. I told him outright tho that I thought it was rude. he left without saying goodbye to friends son who was in another room on computer.

I was furious. This morning, I was still furious. He did not give me a kiss, just well, did not do it. he did not know I was still furious tho so not a reason.

I told him I was annoyed still, he got huffy with that. We had a minor argument about something else trivial and he announced he was going to work early (started at 11:30am) and took DD to nursery at 10am straight to work.

Well, he then came back as he had my bank card.

I asked him again, with DD away if he cared to explain why he went out last night. He got quite vocal, swore a bit, said it was no big deal, could not see what the problem was, blah blah, why was I getting so uptight about it, he said it gave me an opp to have some 'female' time, which I argued was not why he did it, nor what I asked for. He said he did not realise it would piss me off so much, which he did as I told him. He said it was not rude.

Anyway, I was still quite upset by it, refused to talk to him about anything else.

So he apologised. Sorry, i did not mean to upset you.

And I told him he was talking bollox . That he clearly did not feel sorry otherwise he would not have done it in the first place, as he knew i thought it was rude, and he had spent the last half hour arguing he had done nothing wrong. So he was clearly not sorry and just wanted me to stop being shitty. He said he could not help not agreeing with my point of view.

Left it for a bit. talked vaguely about other things.

Drove him to work. He then told me to snap out of it. I told him I that I was gobsmacked that he thought going out when we had a guest to see us was ok, and still could not see why it was wrong. He then spend 20 mins telling me that it was no big deal, really he spent almost two hours with her what was the problem.

It ended with him saying why should he apologise, if I am just going to throw it back in his face. I told him I would accept his apology if he meant it, he said he did not, I told him that he spent 30 seconds apologising, and two hours telling me how he was not wrong. So no I was not going to accept his apology.

A friend in between this texted us to invite to a bbq this evening. He said he is not going, as there is clearly at atmosphere.

It ends with me telling him I am concerned something is going on, as he felt it ok to just bugger off, he went out the night before, he did not give me a kiss this morning.

We say goodbye he goes to work.

I am just still furious with him. Even though he has apologised. Why cant I just accept his apology?

IABU arent I? Given that men dont apologise easily anyway.

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Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:10

Blimey - its long isnt it? . I am not good at summarising.

I shan't expect many replies then

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walkinlikeacowboy · 24/04/2008 12:10

Is the friend that came to visit mainly your friend?

I know that if one of our mutual friends come round without their other half DH usually ends up going out. He'll sit and talk to them for a while but then leave us to it.

walkinlikeacowboy · 24/04/2008 12:10

Is the friend that came to visit mainly your friend?

I know that if one of our mutual friends come round without their other half DH usually ends up going out. He'll sit and talk to them for a while but then leave us to it.

walkinlikeacowboy · 24/04/2008 12:11

OOps must have hit the post button twice sorry!

TillyScoutsmum · 24/04/2008 12:11

I think YAB a bit U tbh ...

What's concerning you ? Do you think there's something more to him rushing out like that ?

If there's not more to it, then I think it sounds a bit of a petty argument and not worth getting furious over. Life's too short. Just accept his apology and move on

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:13

No she is a joint friend, we have known her for years through his friends initially.

In actual fact they probably have more in common than me! She likes computer games, football and GP, so does DH, I am not really into them.

He would not have normally done this, its not normal behaviour otherwise I would not have been so mad, and she would have expected it too. She expected him to be staying.

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pandapanda · 24/04/2008 12:14

So your friend came over at very short notice. He spends over 2 hours with her. He went out at 10pm with the reasonable assumption that the friend would be leaving soon anyway. He forgets to say bye to a 14yo who is on the computer anyway.

Unless you think that he lied to you about seeing a friend and went out to meet a woman then YABVU

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:15

Thing is, sometimes friends pop over for a cuppa and one of us, mainly him will do his own thing, if it was already planned, and when we see those people a lot, pop out for a bit.

But we have not seen her for months, she was coming over to catch up with both of us, and DD and he actually arranged to out whilst she was there. He said his other friend asked him to go over but DH called him in the first place.

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Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:18

I know, I am being uptight.

Its just a change in his behaviour. I don't suspect anything really, just well, it seems odd, he just seems so 'i shall do what I please' attitude with things lately.

I dont feel jealous, I had a good time with my friend who actually stayed until midnight.

I just feel really really annoyed, and cant quite work out why.

pandapanda - you are very right. Of course you are .

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Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:26

ok, so. Shall i text him to say I forgive him?
Shall I just leave it?
I considered getting something nice for his lunch and taking it to him, but then, that sort of seems like I have done something to be sorry for, which I bloody well haven't, so I wont do that.

I might just tidy up as I am meant to be doing. And get over it.

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kitbit · 24/04/2008 12:32

I think it was rude. Unless the arrangement had been that he would stay to say hi and then slink off to meet his friends, to suddenly make an arrangement is very rude to your friend.

He is sounding quite defensive about it too. Don't want to plant any seeds of paranoia, but are you sure he's being straight with you? Changes of behaviour and engineering arguments so you can go off in a huff and do whatever you were trying to get away to do is all sounding very dodgy. Does he have a secret airfix collection that he is too embarrassed to show you?

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:36

lol Kit - I think it was more the lure of friends xbox 360 tbh!

He is absolutely being straight with me in terms of for example having an affair that kind of thing. I have no concerns there.

I guess I am more concerned that he is becoming a bit flippant/blase with our relationship maybe even bored .

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kitbit · 24/04/2008 12:39

Fair enough, and sorry, didn't mean to cast shadows over his honesty and fidelity!

I think I'd still be miffed, especially since he chose the xBox over a prearranged visit. But in that case, I reckon the defensiveness is possibly due to guilt as he probably knows he's in the wrong!

theressomethingaboutmarie · 24/04/2008 12:41

Pavlovthecat - I think that he may find it a little patronising if you text to say that you "forgive him". Why not just call him and say that whilst you were angry at what happened, it's not worth falling out over and that you love him. Job done :-)

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:41

Kit - god dont apologise! I can see how it might look!

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TillyScoutsmum · 24/04/2008 12:42

I think the lunch sounds like a good idea ... I know you say you have nothing to be sorry about (and I sort of agree) but you admit that you've been a tad unreasonable. Just tell him you don't like arguing and want to forget about it and have a nice lunch together

Once things have settled, maybe have a good talk about how he feels about your relationship (if he's a talker ?!). If he's being a bit flippant or bored, then you obviously need to sort it out before it becomes a big problem.

It sounds a bit w*nky - but me and dp both had relate sessions with our exes - it didn't work out for either of us (obviously) - but we sometimes use the stuff in our relationship now (at least it wasn't a complete waste of time and money ). Let me know if you want to know about any of the "exercises" which we sometimes find useful

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:45

theressomethingaboutmarie - he would probably think i was being cheeky as if i said i forgave him, but i like your version!

I was thinking of 'if you buy me lunch i might forgive you.

However, another horrid twist to events.

Made two slices of toast - empty jam jar in fridge, empty peanut butter jar in cupboard. Not guilty your honour as I have had tonsilitis and this is the first toast I have eaten in a week..

Could this be worse than going out last night?

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theressomethingaboutmarie · 24/04/2008 12:47

Empty jam jar and empty peanut butter jar? Call Relate right now as that is TRULY unforgiveable behaviour

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:48

Tilly - He would laugh his head off. I run CBT progs for offenders, looking at problem solving skills, that kind of thing, if I even so much as mention words like ambivalent or 'disengaging' he cringes and tells me to stop using my psycho-babble on him!
Just goes to show doesnt it, all the tools in theory, not so easy in practice!

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OrmIrian · 24/04/2008 12:49

"So he was clearly not sorry and just wanted me to stop being shitty. He said he could not help not agreeing with my point of view"

What is wrong with that ? He doesn't agree with you - you can't force someone to see things the same way as you. Apologising is not always an acceptance that you are wrong sometimes it's just an indication of being sorry for upsetting someone.

Perhaps he isn't as keen on the friend as you are?

I should just leave it. Try to calm down yourself and let him calm down too.

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:50

I know marie - its quite shocking, and to think I was going to stop being annoyed .

Ponders next move whilst eating toast and butter, no spread.

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Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 12:52

OrmIrian - yes, I know. Maybe thats my problem, maybe I am annoyed that I could not change his view. Maybe, I just dont like him disagreeing with me. It has been known before .

Anyway, its got more serious since this first post - see above re jam and peanut butter jars being left empty.

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TillyScoutsmum · 24/04/2008 12:54

Ah bugger Sorry - realised how patronising my post sounded (particularly as you do CBT).

Empty peanut butter jar though ?.... Unforgiveable

Pavlovthecat · 24/04/2008 13:01

Tilly - stop apologising, really! Relate would in many cases be a great thing to suggest - just so happens that I know and understand theory of relationships/how to improve/communication, and cant always make it work in my life, and DH, well, he cares not a jot for it, so there is me talking theory and him going 'shut the fuck up!' at me when I do it! Not compatible!

Must find another way

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OrmIrian · 24/04/2008 13:10

No I don't appreciate DH disagreeing with me either. So he doesn't. Or at least not out loud . But then of course I am always right.