Ozempic changing ideals

[Angelofmycoins]

So, now it's no longer going to be a status flex to be thin (ie. showing you have time and wealth to exercise and buy/cook healthy food), what are your predictions about where body ideals will go?

In the 18th century, for example, status was signified by women with pale skin (didn't work outdoors) and adipose tissue (afford good food).

I predict more focus on muscles mass - sculpting and shaping. More gym membership/personal training sessions. Probably more plastic surgery to fake that aesthetic too as, once again, the rich can will bypass the work. BBLs becoming more popular.

This is apart from an initial spike in skin removal surgeries as people deflate themselves. Hopefully, ozempic may prevent anyone getting super sized in the first place.

I've been with school mums for 10 years now. Some of them have always been big. Now some are, at aged 40+, bony, for want of a better word.

Maybe healthier (although I would say anyone was actually obese). But it's not an amazing look to just take off weight and not build a shape in it's place.....

Thoughts?

My thoughts? You sound lovely.

Sorry you can't engage beyond that opinion.

That's a really vile view.

I've lost 90lbs over the last 4 years and yes I'm deflated but I probably won't die early and I can't afford surgery so will forever have 'not an amazing look'

I'm also on weightloss injections for the last 3 stone because my body has naturally stopped and nothing I do makes me lose any more.

I'd rather 'not look amazing' then tell my kids I've no energy to play with them and be in pain all the time from the weight.

I'm really glad if ozempic will help you become healthier. It's not really what I am talking about.

The wellness and beauty industry is worth £bn in this country alone and a lot of it is driven by looks and ideals.

The sole driver for loosing weight it not just health for many many individuals.

Of course it is.

If you're on these injections then you're obese
Not overweight

Nah, not from what I've seen. Private schools in SE England, it's being used to drop those last few stubbornkg.

Private prescriptions i might add.

I was more interested in what could be the knock on effect in the world of fashion, beauty and general glossy magazine aesthetics than individual's health outlooks (important as they are)

Perhaps this highlights the world in live in as I accept is maybe a bit shallow (but I'm not alone here)!

What will happen to Skims? ?

In countries where everyone / most people are slim beauty standards are higher because being slim is not part of it. A lot of slim ‘plain’ people (particularly women and gay men) will find themselves pushed out of the dating pool altogether unless they bring something more to the table.

Weird thinking - slim people as a wealth flex. I've never seen it like that. As a self-worth, we'll disciplined wouldn't we all like to be able to live like that flex yes... but never wealth.

The richest and most successful person I know personally is, to put it bluntly, obese. I’m not sure being thin = wealthy. You also don’t have to be wealthy to join a gym, or eat healthily.

Absolutely.

From the World Obesity Federation to explain this process if you were not aware.

https://www.worldobesity.org/news/blog-the-changing-faces-of-obesity

What’s BBL?

The ideals have very much shifter to more muscular look some years ago. I have been going to the gym for... 15 years, I'd say. Even 5 years ago it would be unusual to see a woman in the "boy's section" doing free weights. My current gym has a large proportion of young women of all sizes doing bad ass stuff with barbells. I think it is wonderful.

I think its great too. It does take time and effort and the gym isn't free.

BBL is a brazilian butt lift to give you a big bum - v dangerous procedure that I dont think is legal in the UK.

ozempic etc don't suddenly, magically make you thin. you still need to adopt a balanced diet and exercise. not everyone cares enough to do that, or they have different priorities, or 1 million other reasons not to.

Don't worry, your perceived weight related social status isn't at threat in the way you are fearing

Some elements of the weight loss industry might lose out- slimming world etc might need to look at their business model.

I'm not. It's just another fat bashing thread in disguise.

Interesting, yes.

I'm afraid I don't accept that, but, again, your contribution has been noted.

I'll be glad when everyone goes back to looking slender again. Obesity is everywhere and it's not a good look on anyone.

Just google photos of the the 60s, 70s and 80s and even the 90s when people had more pride in their appearance.

Gluttony and a sedentary lifestyle became the norm for the masses along with the fashion of baggy loungewear and people just stopped caring about how they look as well as succumbing to fast food.

Models already use/abuse semiglutides. I worry what effect it will have on the already thin and those that have no medical need to use them. Like when other drug loss treatments were available models are often at the forefront of use.

www.businessinsider.com/kate-moss-sister-lottie-hospitalized-after-using-ozempic-weight-loss-2024-9

Thin most definitely is a wealth flex in some private schools.

Lulu lemon and Alo looks an awful lot better on a ripped bum with slim legs.

Mentioning that you are just popping off to David Lloyd for a class is similar.

The prep school my DC attended had large groups of women like this at pick up.

It’s not fat bashing, it’s skinny bashing.

Being slim and losing weight has a high status because it’s associated with discipline. If anyone can get slim with injections then that prestige and status is diminished.

OP was just stating the obvious thing that is already happening, they aren’t mean or vile for saying it.

Perhaps we will have a functioning health service again if injectable drugs like mounjaro offer the benefits it's starting to look like they might.

Injectable willpower against over eating, alcohol misuse, smoking weight related diseases. All stuff that used to be much easier not to induldge in because crap food, cheap sugary alcohol etc wasn't widely available or socially acceptable. You could argue its the reset on a bad cultural shift to general obesity over the last 50 years.

Think of the savings not just to the NHS but to social care services, children's services etc if people could be better medically supported to not drink alcohol if its problematic for them just for starters.