Ozempic changing ideals

[Angelofmycoins]

So, now it's no longer going to be a status flex to be thin (ie. showing you have time and wealth to exercise and buy/cook healthy food), what are your predictions about where body ideals will go?

In the 18th century, for example, status was signified by women with pale skin (didn't work outdoors) and adipose tissue (afford good food).

I predict more focus on muscles mass - sculpting and shaping. More gym membership/personal training sessions. Probably more plastic surgery to fake that aesthetic too as, once again, the rich can will bypass the work. BBLs becoming more popular.

This is apart from an initial spike in skin removal surgeries as people deflate themselves. Hopefully, ozempic may prevent anyone getting super sized in the first place.

I've been with school mums for 10 years now. Some of them have always been big. Now some are, at aged 40+, bony, for want of a better word.

Maybe healthier (although I would say anyone was actually obese). But it's not an amazing look to just take off weight and not build a shape in it's place.....

Thoughts?

i initially assumed OP was a goady journalist - but seemed a bit too well written for daily fail.
"I was more interested in what could be the knock on effect in the world of fashion, beauty and general glossy magazine aesthetics"
So that's wat you're gathering material for.

That's interesting.

There is already Antabuse for alcohol, I've not really looked at the research about how helpful its been. Its more of a stick than a carrot though, as it makes you feel very ill if you drink.

Why all the Ozempic hate at the moment, this is the third thread I've seen. 🙄

Yes, yes all the fat people should just stop being greedy lazy fuckers because its just that simple isn't it

Definitely not hate. It seems like it might be a game changer, and I'm wondering about implications on other aspects of society and not just health.

i doubt BBL’s will get more popular in this country as they carry a high risk of death and most surgeons don’t want the liability.
I actually am concerned about loose skin in many of these patients. My partner is struggling with soreness due to loose skin and has to keep on top of his hygiene routine to stop it breaking down. Whilst I hope the injections have continued success ,there are other concerns that I’m sure haven’t discovered yet.

I wonder if it will have a positive impact on the health of those with underlying conditions causing slower metabolisms and weight gain? Genuinely typing my thoughts here, but if an obese person is put on ozempic/similar and weight doesn't shift (does that happen?) will it perhaps lead, in a way, to more fat acceptance as a result of genetic/medical issues? Because presumably, if the fat doesn't drop on ozempic* and you are controlling appetite, something else must be going on?

I also wonder if it might finally prove or disprove over time, that when a population is slimmer it will allegedly suffering less health issues. Will the NHS suddenly be great again because it's not being suffocated by obesity related illness (I am not convinced).

(*I don't know much about ozempic, that's probably obvious.)

(Edited typos)

Where's the hate? Sorry, just re-read thread and not seeing any hate. Discussing ozempic and its implications isn't the same as hating it. That's an odd take.

I am pleased Ozempic is taking people to a healthy weight.

However, I cannot see how feasibly this can be a long term solution - side effects, cost etc. We still have to fix our food systems. The amount of disgusting food is out of control and the powerful food businesses will eventually beat Ozempic.

Calm doon hen!

I'm still packing a menopause belly and thighs that touch almost all the way to my knees. I'm not heavy enough to qualify for weight loss medication so I'm in no danger of racing down to aspirational skinniness any time soon unless they invent calorie free sandwiches and chocolate. I'm a size 14 and sometimes a 16 so rest assured you can still enjoy our chubby presence for the foreseeable.

I have thought the same. Skinny absolutely is a flex in wealthy circles, and I bet some of them are raging that you no longer need to get up at 5am and eat nothing but grilled chicken and salmon to be thin.

People are deluded if they think you need to be obese to get these injections. Every few months or so, the wealthy set will be having a couple of months on whatever it is to keep them looking good.

WTF is a “wealth flex”? Is this some sort of Instagram-speak?

😂 I was paraphrasing the person who used the term, BUT my DD16 often refers to a 'flex' so I'm using the phrase as she would.

Essentially a way of showing off.

But what does she mean when she says it?

Sorry cross post. What a nonsense use of the word flex.

But you still have to do those things on ozempic.

You don't eat a bigmac and get skinny. It helps control hunger and food noise so you can eat healthy and exercise and lose weight

If tou don't make changes nothing happens!

I think it will go back to the 90s
A bowl of cereal being a meal again.
I remember being 17 and at my thinnest I've ever been (due to being bulimic)
Yet I was still seen as fat by society ,even though I could get in a river island size 12(briefly)
It's sad the pressure society places on us ,and we internalised and passed on to our children

Exactly.

'Food noise'

I've also been wondering this, and I don't think it's bashing to say that weight has is tied to status, esp for women. There's a lot of research on how people's perceptions change according to someone's weight, and how heavier people are treated worse/perceived as low status.

So I think yes, perhaps more focus on muscle building (more use of steroids to bulk? They're quite common amongst male body builders.) And probably more focus on standard status symbols, like clothes, jewellery, hair.)

I also wonder about the intergenerational effects. A lot of eating habits are learned. If children increasingly grow up around adults eating less because of mounjaro will this be a positive because they will learn better habits, or negative, leading them towards undereating, or both?

I think that the point of the OP!! So if these drugs stop or ‘quieten down’ the urge for fatty and unhealthy foods then will they achieve what nothing else has so far. An actual change in eating habits? Or will the food industry up the anti and find new ways to keep pumping out the shit that they do?

And anyone deluded enough to think that the vast majority of teenage girls will not be taking these injections in the next couple of years is, quite frankly, an idiot

There will be a lot of people with health issues from skinny jabs.
I used them for 6 months and now have colon issues.

I read this a lot. However it's not actually true. Do you really believe that the hundreds of thousands of us who were once obese have suddenly adopted an exercise regime and calorie counting ? Don't be daft !!

The reason it is a miraculous drug is BECAUSE it requires so little effort. I have gone from 15 stone to 10 stone in 6 months by the drug suppressing my appetite. As it happens I like to cook. So I have never cooked a processed meal for my family.. I didn't eat unhealthily just ate way way way too much . I also ate when I wasn't hungry .
For me on Mountjaro.. I am simply unable to do that.

Yes of course if I had counted calories or joined the gym it would have gone quicker but to say it doesn't work without calorie counting and exercise is simply not true.

Now the subject of the post . I understand to a degree what the OP is saying .
Thinness is without doubt a badge of honour in my neck of the woods (rural wealthy S.E) where the yummy mummy's compete to remain a size 8./10 max .
This is achieved by not eating all day when there is a public dinner. But severely restricting food for themselves at home. Think a ramekin of veg for supper. (a number of families I know the kids especially the girls were drilled that an ounce of fat would hinder your life and especially your marriage chances of making a 'good' match.)

Being slim is without doubt a 'status symbol' . (Can afford the time to source and home cook food so NO junk is ever in the house)

I do believe that WLI are a game changer and think that the next 'status symbol for wealthy women keen to 'other' themselves from the newly thin 'hoi poloi' will be super slim kids.. and gym honed bodies.. because the previously obese will still pander to their children's dietary demands for crap in the name of a quiet life and 'love' .

Yes. It's really odd on here that some posters can't get their heads round the fact that skinny people buy and use semiglutide. Of course they do.

@Seagall a whole swathe of SW London plus other wealthy enclaves & those with real ££ can now fit couture in late middle age & insta shows ‘Emily in Paris’ thinness & ststus. Outside of that real ££ brigade, spreading to suburban private school Mum. None of whom obese.