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To take my 5 year old autistic daughter to the NYE London fireworks?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:19

Hi everyone

I'm posting as I need really some advice. I'm an east londoner but I've never been to the NYE fireworks.

It's just my daughter and I, and she LOVES the NYE fireworks which we watch from home.

Tickets are £20 each and are released on my payday.

She is a very sweet girl who has autism so is pre verbal. I'd take her in her buggy and would go to the accessible area. She'd have ear defenders, a big coat, blanket and her tablet.

Has anyone done this? I imagine it'd be packed but is it out of the question considering her autism? And her age?

She doesn't love crowds but will be okay in her buggy with her blanket over her head (she always does this). We could take the tube close to home and then I'd pay surge price for an uber so we don't have to walk home in the dark.

I hope I don't sound like a bad mum. She really will love the fireworks and it could be a great memory for her. But if it's gonna be too much bother, I'd keep her home.

TIA ❤️🎄

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Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:33

@Futurethinking2026 did you read the OP post correctly. To begin with she wasn't considering letting her child stay up to watch the fireworks on tv at home as you discuss but to take her into central London that would be cold/rainy/heaving with people with no guaranteed way home.

She has re-evaluated her lovely well intentioned idea to something that will be just as enjoyable if not more so.

Needanewname42 · 11/10/2024 21:35

I'd agree Op no issue with keeping kids up for the bells, or as is often done let them have a nap early evening then get them up about 10.30 to enjoy the run up to 12pm.

I just don't think a busy city full of young rowdy adults is the place for a young child.

mitogoshigg · 11/10/2024 21:37

I would take her to bonfire night ones and watch on tv. It's so crowded

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:41

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:21

OP I'm about to derail you thread but.... Youve mentioned it's just the two of you several times. Is this a new scenario? Are you feeling unsettled about it?

I just want to reassure you, your DD is going to have a fab childhood even if it is just the two if you. You are not lacking if you don't have a partner, you can do this. You are going to make lots of magical memories and lots of brilliant traditions that suit you both (this is perhaps not one of them though).

It's just been DD and me since she was born. We've done lots of city breaks, always stay in a Premier Inn (as they are always the same and helps with the autism) and factoring in travel days is pretty essential and knowing where 'quiet' spaces are at different venues.

I always enjoyed the theatre so started training her early at children's shows so she learned how to behave, then musicals, now proper theatre and Shakespeare so I get to enjoy something for me but even better we enjoy it together.

🥺🥺 you've defo picked up my unsettledness

It's been just us since she was about 9 months old, but I am always feeling like I'm not giving her enough

She goes to a school with a class for autistic children but doesn't really socialise much with kids outside of school - I'm working on changing that, trying to find places to take her that'll have familiar autistic faces but finding it hard.

For example, when we go to the local park, there's different kids each time, so it's difficult for her to feel comfortable socialising

So I've thrown myself into christmas and new year 🙃

Thank you 🥺🥰 - I love what you do with yours, - I think we could do some city breaks next year. As long as there's a mcdonalds and strong wifi, she's usually happy. Defo agree that we need an indoorsy nye though x

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NewNameNoelle · 11/10/2024 21:43

Having done it as an adult without children I would absolutely not recommend.

It’s absolutely packed. There is tonnes of standing around. It’s actually quite boring. My friend was pickpocketed. Getting home was an absolutely nightmare, we walked miles and miles, couldn’t get on a tube, couldn’t get on a bus. The crowd turned a touch aggressive at one point after midnight, there were police horses and you couldn’t go where you wanted to.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:45

pipmay · 11/10/2024 21:25

No I wouldn't. I used to live in central London walking distance of parliament etc. The crowds are massive, just getting on the tube after is hugely stressful ( it was hard even walking home). You may not be able to get Uber the other side. It's not great for children.
Also is it really for her if she has a blanket over her head and a tablet?
Most autistic people hate crowds.
I wouldn't take my own children, sorry.

I was thinking she'd have the tablet until the fireworks x

but agree it's not at all a workable idea 🙈, being stuck in huge unorganised crowds would be awful x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:49

TheFormidableMrsC · 11/10/2024 21:16

I took my ASD son to a small local display from 4 years old but we had to sit in the car nearby. We graduated to getting out of the car the year after and he was wrapped up warm with ear defenders and a beanie. He has sensory processing disorder, particularly with noise. I think because I kept it small and local it's been fine and even now at 13, he still loves to go. I am not sure I would navigate London fireworks though. It's not just the noise but the overwhelming crowds. Only you know your child but if you're going to do it, have an exit strategy and position yourself where you can get away fairly easily. Good luck!

I think this is a good idea, and it's lovely how you've worked with him x

The lack of an easy and quick exit in case shes overwhelmed was one of the major flaws I think, plus the danger of such a crowd - will keep her indoors and try to find a local bonfire night x

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Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:52

@MumOfOneAllAlone honestly dont worry too much about socialising, my DD does have a group of good friends but she actually isn't that fussed about seeing other children and socialising.

It is very common for children with autism to be friends with others with autism and ADHD as their brains work similarly and they just get each other. So instead of going to the park why not look into groups where ND children are likely to be, at groups you'll get a regular group of people too. That could be a specific autism group or a lego group, art group, as she gets older you are lucky as you live in London so you can take her to the Royal Institute for their family lectures, or the Royal Albert Hall for their Sunday family sessions.

Futurethinking2026 · 11/10/2024 21:53

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:33

@Futurethinking2026 did you read the OP post correctly. To begin with she wasn't considering letting her child stay up to watch the fireworks on tv at home as you discuss but to take her into central London that would be cold/rainy/heaving with people with no guaranteed way home.

She has re-evaluated her lovely well intentioned idea to something that will be just as enjoyable if not more so.

Yes and I replied to that early on, saying don’t go but then the poster she was replying to here has basically said she shouldn’t be keeping her DD up at all, to which I’ve said ignore that and do what suits your DD (ie at home not in central London).

Futurethinking2026 · 11/10/2024 21:55

Freshersfluforyou · 11/10/2024 20:45

Kindly OP, why are you keeping such a young child up so late on NYE? She's too young. Children that age don't need to be 'celebrating' NYE they need to be in bed, its all a bit meaningless to them, regardless of neurodiversity etc. I don't think kids should be kept up late for NYE til they are secondary age, why bother with a younger who will just end up overtired

@Singleandproud it was this one she was replying to that I said to ignore.

MrsBobtonTrent · 11/10/2024 21:59

I went years ago. There were people with buggies, but it was awful. So hard for them to get through the crowds, people falling into the buggies/prams. I doubt any child in a buggy saw anything and it frankly looked dangerous. Uber will be a nightmare at any price. I would wait until DD is older. And if you are desperate to go, save up and get a hotel room somewhere with a roof garden or balcony - that way you can see the fireworks, avoid the crush and not have to struggle home.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:09

Futurethinking2026 · 11/10/2024 21:28

Ignore this poster. Perfectly fine to celebrate if that’s what you want to do and being awake doesn’t deregulate your DD. Some years our kids have stayed up, other years they have gone to bed and sometimes we’ve woken them at midnight. Do what suits you & your DD.

Thank you - I do love having her with me, as the year is ours, rather than mine, if that makes sense xx

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:10

MrsBobtonTrent · 11/10/2024 21:59

I went years ago. There were people with buggies, but it was awful. So hard for them to get through the crowds, people falling into the buggies/prams. I doubt any child in a buggy saw anything and it frankly looked dangerous. Uber will be a nightmare at any price. I would wait until DD is older. And if you are desperate to go, save up and get a hotel room somewhere with a roof garden or balcony - that way you can see the fireworks, avoid the crush and not have to struggle home.

I do feel like it'll be dangerous tbh, I've definitely got a different image than the pretty light filled one I had when I posted 😄, thank you x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:13

Needanewname42 · 11/10/2024 21:35

I'd agree Op no issue with keeping kids up for the bells, or as is often done let them have a nap early evening then get them up about 10.30 to enjoy the run up to 12pm.

I just don't think a busy city full of young rowdy adults is the place for a young child.

Thank you, I wasn't thinking of all the young adults 😄, now I am, I'm sure it'll be a boozy, smoky, packed affair, so glad we'll be safe at home aha x

Yeah, I think it's nice to see in the new year with the one you love the most x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:16

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:52

@MumOfOneAllAlone honestly dont worry too much about socialising, my DD does have a group of good friends but she actually isn't that fussed about seeing other children and socialising.

It is very common for children with autism to be friends with others with autism and ADHD as their brains work similarly and they just get each other. So instead of going to the park why not look into groups where ND children are likely to be, at groups you'll get a regular group of people too. That could be a specific autism group or a lego group, art group, as she gets older you are lucky as you live in London so you can take her to the Royal Institute for their family lectures, or the Royal Albert Hall for their Sunday family sessions.

Thank you 🥺

I agree, finding it hard to find anything local, outside of the brownies (huge wait) and the council run schemes we attend during the holidays, which she does love. I'll keep on trying

London is great for days out, she loves the transport museum the most 🤭

I'm looking for a way to friend you but can't see one x

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Imisscoffee2021 · 11/10/2024 22:16

I wouldn't, it's not just the being there it's the getting there and the getting oit. It takes aaages. Then depending how you got in the trains are packed and bright and loud, the roads or choked off for a good portion if you drive. Could you maybe get a cheap projector and instead project the televised ones big on the ceiling while you lie under it on a blanket like you're outside? Or take her to an earlier local display, lots are earlier for kids earlier bedtimes.

Alongthepineconetrail · 11/10/2024 22:21

I used to invite a few friends round for tea then fireworks and sparklers in our garden. My dc have autism and couldn't cope with crowds in public spaces. But loved having 1 or 2 school friends to have our own private firework show. So they'd still be joining in but on their own terms.

Can you buy extra fireworks and keep a set for NYE to do in your own garden, if you have one?

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:26

Imisscoffee2021 · 11/10/2024 22:16

I wouldn't, it's not just the being there it's the getting there and the getting oit. It takes aaages. Then depending how you got in the trains are packed and bright and loud, the roads or choked off for a good portion if you drive. Could you maybe get a cheap projector and instead project the televised ones big on the ceiling while you lie under it on a blanket like you're outside? Or take her to an earlier local display, lots are earlier for kids earlier bedtimes.

Oh I love the idea of hiding under the covers with the fireworks projected onto the ceiling!

Completely agree, she needs an escape and there just wouldn't be one x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:29

Alongthepineconetrail · 11/10/2024 22:21

I used to invite a few friends round for tea then fireworks and sparklers in our garden. My dc have autism and couldn't cope with crowds in public spaces. But loved having 1 or 2 school friends to have our own private firework show. So they'd still be joining in but on their own terms.

Can you buy extra fireworks and keep a set for NYE to do in your own garden, if you have one?

Edited

I can't find any electric sparklers online but I'm wondering how safe actual sparklers are for her

We have a garden but I wouldn't do the real fireworks as I have no experience and the posters of injuries that were about during my childhood have terrified me for life 😅

Thank you x

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Imisscoffee2021 · 11/10/2024 22:31

@MumOfOneAllAlone I think people stick sparklers in the end of carrots and have the kids hold the carrot these days, my sons not even at carrot holding stage but I've seen it done and thought it was a great idea to avoid burns!

Joystir59 · 11/10/2024 22:31

It takes HOURS to get away from the display areas afterwards. I wouldn't do it.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 22:42

Imisscoffee2021 · 11/10/2024 22:31

@MumOfOneAllAlone I think people stick sparklers in the end of carrots and have the kids hold the carrot these days, my sons not even at carrot holding stage but I've seen it done and thought it was a great idea to avoid burns!

Another mum said the same thing - I think what I'll do is try one out when I'm by myself, to see what it's like, as I've genuinely zero experience and it does sound like a nice idea x

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Clingfilm · 11/10/2024 22:45

No way. I've been as an NT adult and it's hard work. There's a lot of waiting as they close off the viewing areas early. The post firework crawl to a heaving tube, no. And there's a good chance it'll be raining/freezing.

Clingfilm · 11/10/2024 22:51

Depending on her level of understanding you could have the TV/internet on all new years eve watching the displays from the different cities as the time zones pass. I like doing this ☺️

LeopardPrintIsANeutraI · 12/10/2024 07:30

I don't know where in London you are (and have only skim read the thread so sorry if this has already been suggested) but is going to a local-ish high point and watching the fireworks from there a possibility? When I lived in SE London we went to the top of Crystal Palace Park for NYE once, I don't think we could see the central London fireworks but we saw absolutely thousands of others going off all around us for miles and miles.

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