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To take my 5 year old autistic daughter to the NYE London fireworks?

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:19

Hi everyone

I'm posting as I need really some advice. I'm an east londoner but I've never been to the NYE fireworks.

It's just my daughter and I, and she LOVES the NYE fireworks which we watch from home.

Tickets are £20 each and are released on my payday.

She is a very sweet girl who has autism so is pre verbal. I'd take her in her buggy and would go to the accessible area. She'd have ear defenders, a big coat, blanket and her tablet.

Has anyone done this? I imagine it'd be packed but is it out of the question considering her autism? And her age?

She doesn't love crowds but will be okay in her buggy with her blanket over her head (she always does this). We could take the tube close to home and then I'd pay surge price for an uber so we don't have to walk home in the dark.

I hope I don't sound like a bad mum. She really will love the fireworks and it could be a great memory for her. But if it's gonna be too much bother, I'd keep her home.

TIA ❤️🎄

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MotherOfRatios · 11/10/2024 20:48

Could you go to primrose hill instead? I normally go there

Zanatdy · 11/10/2024 20:48

I absolutely wouldn’t as it will be heaving in London, so after the event too, and you’ll be waiting around in the cold for hours. If it’s freezing conditions that would be awful, but especially late at night for a young child. Save up and take her to Disney Paris to see the fireworks there, in summer

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:48

Didn't see that on the site! From the stories, I see why
Edited to say completely agree re bonfire night x

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Annettecurtaintwitcher · 11/10/2024 20:49

Honestly I wouldn’t. It is very late for a five year old and would be terrible getting home on NYE.

If she likes fireworks maybe try and find a family friendly display on bonfire night which is local to you.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:52

Anotheranonymousnameismine · 11/10/2024 20:30

If she loves it at home, I’d stick with that and maybe find some ways to make it even more special and start creating some regular rituals around it that you can do in future - eg listening to special songs, drinks, special light up cups etc, beforehand. Sorry if this is something you already do.

from my experience of new year fireworks, they are more hectic than you think. And if you can’t get away via Uber/tube it could be tricky.

i have a child with some mild additional needs and sensory sensitivity. I’m sure it’s not the same but I know I wrestle sometimes with whether to push the boat out and try for something ambitious a make memories, but which may be a strain/disaster, vs just sticking to more homely/familiar/safe spaces. It’s tricky.

Thanks for this - special cups and lights sound like a fun idea! Maybe I could add extra lights to the bedroom and get some electric sparkler wand things - I'm in planning mode now! 😊 xx

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:52

MotherOfRatios · 11/10/2024 20:48

Could you go to primrose hill instead? I normally go there

Is primrose hill much quieter? X

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:55

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 20:48

@MumOfOneAllAlone DD is autistic and 15 now. When she was little we would sit in bed and eat yummy treats and then she'd fall asleep and I'd wake her for the fireworks. It's one of her favourite memories and she's been staying up with me since she was about 10 and we have a board game night now with the music on in the background.

The things we remember are often the little mundane things that made us feel warm, happy and safe not the big showy things. - annoying as it is when you've spent a fortune on holidays and summer activities and when your child is asked what they did in the school holiday the say "Went to McDonalds".

I like this 😊. This what we did going into 2023 actually.

She does like to be in bed with me. You're right about the mundane things as well, some of the toys I've bought her and she prefers cheap party bag gifts 🙈 x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:56

Muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumcanihaveasnack · 11/10/2024 20:47

I wouldn’t go even as an adult as the crowds are just not for me. She might enjoy it she might not but it will be a nightmare for you if she doesn’t.

could you start a tradition with her instead? Depending on her age get some sparklers to do outside or in the garden if you have one then have a movie night with her favourite snacks or something and create a little family tradition for you both? You can watch the fireworks on the tv too

I love this, I'm wondering about electric sparklers or something low risk as I've never dealt with sparklers myself x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:59

Freshersfluforyou · 11/10/2024 20:45

Kindly OP, why are you keeping such a young child up so late on NYE? She's too young. Children that age don't need to be 'celebrating' NYE they need to be in bed, its all a bit meaningless to them, regardless of neurodiversity etc. I don't think kids should be kept up late for NYE til they are secondary age, why bother with a younger who will just end up overtired

I understand what you mean but I'm probably doing it for selfish reasons

It's just us and I like to see in the new year with her - she does nap during the day though

She also honestly enjoys the fireworks x

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Justyouwaitandseeagain · 11/10/2024 21:02

I wouldn't. Some family members went and the smoke was so bad they couldn't see any of the amazing display we watched at home. The crowds and even crowd control measures are really stressful. Watch at home or go to a more local display.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:03

Zanatdy · 11/10/2024 20:48

I absolutely wouldn’t as it will be heaving in London, so after the event too, and you’ll be waiting around in the cold for hours. If it’s freezing conditions that would be awful, but especially late at night for a young child. Save up and take her to Disney Paris to see the fireworks there, in summer

I'll be saving for quite a while 😅 but thank you, I think she'd enjoy it much more x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:05

Saschka · 11/10/2024 20:35

My NT son couldn’t cope with a local firework display at that age, despite being excited beforehand. Too loud, too crowded, went on too long and couldn’t easily leave.

Try a local firework display and see how she gets on with that this year. NYE in central London is like that but on steroids. What happens five minutes in when your DD wants to leave but can’t escape the noise, and can’t get out of the crowd?

There is no way you’ll get an Uber, last time I went I had to walk back to Brixton. I got home around 3am (display finished at 12:30 but there was a queue to get out of the enclosure, then battled through crowds to get home). You are in East London, how long is it going to take you to walk back there?

Thank you for this - completely agree re getting an uber 🙈 - I hadn't factored in the wait, just the price - you can pre book but I still think there's too much that could go wrong with it

The thing I didnt factor in was being able to leave 😔 - the ability to do that is so important x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:06

Justyouwaitandseeagain · 11/10/2024 21:02

I wouldn't. Some family members went and the smoke was so bad they couldn't see any of the amazing display we watched at home. The crowds and even crowd control measures are really stressful. Watch at home or go to a more local display.

Omg, didn't think of the smoke. Plus, now thst I know they discourage young children, I'm picturing young drunk adults, defo not the right environment 😅 x

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Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:06

Why not look and see if there is an earlier family friendly fire work display somewhere?

With sparklers stick the holding end into a carrot to give the child something chunkier to hold onto and make sure you both wear gloves and that you have a bucket nearby to drop them into as they are extremely hot. I'd have your hand over hers too. - But I wouldn't do it when she was sleepy.

What I would do is buy or make a cake and get one of those fountain birthday candles. You could make it a tradition because it's the 'Earths' birthday and then the bonus is you have cake the next day.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:07

Thistooshallpsss · 11/10/2024 20:40

Someone I knew had tickets last year and queued for hours and the gates were shut before midnight there was rubbish stewarding and policing a really dangerous crush they were young and fit but had real trouble extracting themselves and getting home. They couldn’t believe what a shambles it was.

That's terrified me and brought me to my senses! I'm glad the person you know was ok! X

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bookworm14 · 11/10/2024 21:09

I honestly wouldn't. I went a couple of times pre-parenthood and it is HEAVING. It actually felt dangerous in places - at one point I was scared we'd end up in a Hillsborough-type crush situation. I really wouldn't have wanted to experience that with a small child. You then have the issue of trying to get home at the same time as 100000 other people. Much better to watch it from the comfort of your sitting room!

Potentiallyplausible · 11/10/2024 21:11

No. Don’t take her.

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:11

honeygoldensyrup · 11/10/2024 20:42

As others have said I personally think it would be too much.
Nothing to stop you working up to this as something to do together when she is older.

I generally always say go for it, and I've travelled extensively with my ND family, but even I would say that NY London is too much, more than anything because of the transport situation.

Thank you, I do want to give her as many experiences as possible - what's the point of it being just the two of us if I don't use it to our advantage after all - but completely see that this is an unworkable idea 😬

The thought of not being able to leave due to the crowds is unbearable x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:12

bookworm14 · 11/10/2024 21:09

I honestly wouldn't. I went a couple of times pre-parenthood and it is HEAVING. It actually felt dangerous in places - at one point I was scared we'd end up in a Hillsborough-type crush situation. I really wouldn't have wanted to experience that with a small child. You then have the issue of trying to get home at the same time as 100000 other people. Much better to watch it from the comfort of your sitting room!

😳🥺 that sounds horrendous! Completely agree x

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MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 21:15

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:06

Why not look and see if there is an earlier family friendly fire work display somewhere?

With sparklers stick the holding end into a carrot to give the child something chunkier to hold onto and make sure you both wear gloves and that you have a bucket nearby to drop them into as they are extremely hot. I'd have your hand over hers too. - But I wouldn't do it when she was sleepy.

What I would do is buy or make a cake and get one of those fountain birthday candles. You could make it a tradition because it's the 'Earths' birthday and then the bonus is you have cake the next day.

Oh I love earths birthday! She loves to sing happy birthday as well 😄😄. I think we'll do that, spend the day baking a cake, it will be a lovely tradition 🥰 (she shows some interest when I bake, but I'm thinking we could get creative with the icing)

I'm too nervous about the sparklers tbh but I'm hunting online for electric ones. Plus I could get a sparkler candle for the cake. Thank you 😊 x

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TheFormidableMrsC · 11/10/2024 21:16

I took my ASD son to a small local display from 4 years old but we had to sit in the car nearby. We graduated to getting out of the car the year after and he was wrapped up warm with ear defenders and a beanie. He has sensory processing disorder, particularly with noise. I think because I kept it small and local it's been fine and even now at 13, he still loves to go. I am not sure I would navigate London fireworks though. It's not just the noise but the overwhelming crowds. Only you know your child but if you're going to do it, have an exit strategy and position yourself where you can get away fairly easily. Good luck!

Figgygal · 11/10/2024 21:18

Glad you've seen how crazy that would be. She's too young, it'll be too late and too cold.

Singleandproud · 11/10/2024 21:21

OP I'm about to derail you thread but.... Youve mentioned it's just the two of you several times. Is this a new scenario? Are you feeling unsettled about it?

I just want to reassure you, your DD is going to have a fab childhood even if it is just the two if you. You are not lacking if you don't have a partner, you can do this. You are going to make lots of magical memories and lots of brilliant traditions that suit you both (this is perhaps not one of them though).

It's just been DD and me since she was born. We've done lots of city breaks, always stay in a Premier Inn (as they are always the same and helps with the autism) and factoring in travel days is pretty essential and knowing where 'quiet' spaces are at different venues.

I always enjoyed the theatre so started training her early at children's shows so she learned how to behave, then musicals, now proper theatre and Shakespeare so I get to enjoy something for me but even better we enjoy it together.

pipmay · 11/10/2024 21:25

No I wouldn't. I used to live in central London walking distance of parliament etc. The crowds are massive, just getting on the tube after is hugely stressful ( it was hard even walking home). You may not be able to get Uber the other side. It's not great for children.
Also is it really for her if she has a blanket over her head and a tablet?
Most autistic people hate crowds.
I wouldn't take my own children, sorry.

Futurethinking2026 · 11/10/2024 21:28

MumOfOneAllAlone · 11/10/2024 20:59

I understand what you mean but I'm probably doing it for selfish reasons

It's just us and I like to see in the new year with her - she does nap during the day though

She also honestly enjoys the fireworks x

Ignore this poster. Perfectly fine to celebrate if that’s what you want to do and being awake doesn’t deregulate your DD. Some years our kids have stayed up, other years they have gone to bed and sometimes we’ve woken them at midnight. Do what suits you & your DD.

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